WildBrain Ltd.

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Q1 FY2019 · Earnings Call TranscriptNovember 13, 2018

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Executives

Nancy Chan-Palmateer - Director, Investor Relations Michael Donovan - Executive Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Doug Lamb - Chief Financial Officer Josh Scherba - President Aaron Ames - Chief Operating Officer

Analysts

Adam Shine - National Bank Financial Aravinda Galappathige - Canaccord Genuity Rob Goff - Echelon Wealth Partners Drew McReynolds - RBC Bentley Cross - TD Securities Tim Casey - BMO

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the DHX Media Fiscal 2019 first Quarter and Webcast. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you.

I would now like to turn the call over to Nancy Chan-Palmateer, Director, Investor Relations at DHX Media. You may begin your conference.

Nancy Chan-Palmateer

Thank you, operator. And thank you everyone for joining us today.

Speaking on the call today are Michael Donovan, our Executive Chairman and CEO; and Doug Lamb, our Chief Financial Officer. Also, with us and available during the question-and-answer session are Aaron Ames, our Chief Operating Officer; Josh Scherba, President; and David Regan, EVP, Strategy and Corporate Development.

Turning to Slide 2. We have some standard cautionary statements.

The matters discussed on this call include forward-looking statements under applicable securities laws with respect to DHX Media, including, but not limited to, statements regarding progress on the company's strategic priorities, the effectiveness of the company’s management team, the sustainability of the company’s organic growth, the expected growth of WildBrain, expected use of available cash, cost rationalization initiatives and expected results therefrom, the market and industries in which the company operates, the business strategies, key priorities and objectives and operational activities of the company and results therefrom and the future financial and operating performance of the company. Such statements are based on information currently available and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties.

Actual information currently available, actual results or events in the future could differ materially and adversely from those described in the forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including regulatory risk, the ability of the company to execute on transactions and realize on synergies and cost savings, and the risk factors set out in the company’s most recent MD&A and Annual Information Form. Before the question-and-answer session that will follow, we ask that each analyst keep to one question with one follow-up, so that everyone has a chance to ask questions.

If you would like to ask an additional question, please rejoin the queue. Turning to Slide 3, I will now hand the call over to our Executive Chairman and CEO, Michael Donovan.

Michael Donovan

Thank you, Nancy. And thank you very much everyone for joining us today.

We are encouraged by Q1 results and expect positive momentum to continue as we execute on our strategy of focusing on WildBrain and premium content. WildBrain had another excellent quarter with double-digit revenue growth affirming our focus on this high growth platform.

Our pipeline for content and brands is building well across the business and we expect that to continue in the coming quarters. We are also making progress towards our fiscal objectives, growing revenue, cutting costs and reducing debt.

Turning to Slide 4. Some important new specifics have emerged from YouTube, which illustrate that we have significantly underestimated the reach that WildBrain would get.

We now know that worldwide one-third of the approximately 830 million kids with access to YouTube watched at least one video on WildBrain -- the WildBrain network in Q1. This activity is generating over 2.5 million views per month on the network.

That’s 13 billion minutes of watch time per month, up 66% from Q1 2018. As a result, WildBrain has grown at 49%, AVOD is a major part of the rising trend of kids watching content online and WildBrain is the leading network in the space.

Let me take a minute to give you a bit more insight into the platform we’re building at WildBrain. WildBrain launched six years ago with access to DHX’s large global content library.

As many of you know, we own the world’s largest independent library of kids’ content. The reason this is important is because it allowed WildBrain to test at scale numerous genre, formats and subjects across hundreds of demographics and territories.

This testing has provided us with key insights to formulate our approach to optimizing the kids experience in the AVOD space across our platform. We believe we are able to drive longer and better engagement and to attract the most relevant and most valuable viewers.

We have applied our expertise and knowledge with tremendous success not only for our own IP but also for numerous third-party clients who’re in trust with us with their content. Engaging with audiences through AVOD is becoming critical across the kids ecosystem.

And to be clear that includes toy companies, retailers, linear distributors and even SVOD distributors. This is why more and more companies are coming to WildBrain for solutions and that's what we're seeing.

Turning to Slide 5. One example of the great successes that we're having with original content from WildBrain is, as an example, Tiddlytubbies.

These are new characters we introduced in the third season of our Tiddlytubbies series. We launched original Tiddlytubbies content on WildBrain last spring and the response has been tremendous.

This new content has driven growth on the Tiddlytubbies channel by 139% to over 29 million views in Q1 and increased watched time by 127% to 98 million minutes of videos watched. Those numbers speak to be opportunity we’re just beginning to harness to generate engagement on WildBrain through original content and they illustrate how we can leverage our IP on the platform to grow brands and broaden those brands’ reach.

Turning to Slide 6. In the SVOD that is the subscription video-on-demand space, major players are turning to DHX for family content.

I'd like to draw your attention to some of the original series we've recently licensed to Netflix. One is called -- the name of one is Chip and Potato, the new animated preschool series, which will be premiering on Netflix next year, which we're particularly excited.

Creeped Out is the name of a live action horror anthology, Season 1 launched on Netflix in October. And The Deep is a popular family adventure series now going into a third season on Netflix.

These three series are good examples of the breadth of our production capacities and capabilities across multiple genres and demographics. And we have many more shows in our pipeline that we're excited about and look forward to announcing in the coming months.

Turning to Slide 7. We're also delivering original shows to the world's top linear broadcasters.

And our focus is, as with other brands, developing global brands. For example Mega Man: Fully Charged launched in Q1 on Cartoon Network in United States.

We're planning promotional push on the series in the spring to coincide with our toy launch. Mega Man: Fully Charged is already a hit on our own Family CHRGD Channel contributing to an upswing in ratings on that channel this fall.

Other show we’re excited about, very excited about is Rev & Roll in collaboration with Alpha Group. Alpha Group is China’s leading toy and animation company.

And we believe that Rev & Roll has very, very strong potential as a global toy brand. This show generated a lot of excitement at this year’s MIPCOM which is the television’s main -- the television industry’s main sales event in October in France, and we’re already beginning to see orders.

The Rev & Roll is launching next year on our family channel in Canada and in China on Alpha’s Jiajia channel. Now turning to Slide 8.

In August, the leading industry trade publication Licensing Letter, the name ranked Peanuts as the world’s 6th largest character brand based on retail sales. This year Peanuts moved up to notches to outrank PAW Patrol, Frozen and Peppa Pig amongst others.

There are great many things happening with Peanuts. We can’t pull back the curtain on many of them just yet, but the team is busy working on a number of projects, including the development of new Peanuts content.

With that, I’ll hand the call to Doug to speak to our financial results for the quarter.

Doug Lamb

Thanks, Michael. Our financial results for Q1 are summarized on Slide 9.

Q1 2019 revenue was $104 million, up 5.5% compared to Q1 2018. The increase is driven by continued strong performance in WildBrain, higher consumer products, royalties derived from our own IP and higher production service revenue.

This was partially offset by declines in other business segments. The implementation of the IFRS 15 accounting standard reduced overall revenue by $2.4 million in Q1 2019, this revenue is expected to be recognized during the remainder of fiscal 2019.

Adjusted EBITDA was $17.3 million, compared to $22.8 million in Q1 2018. Adjusted EBITDA was reduced by $3.8 million related to the sale of a 39% minority stake in Peanuts to Sony and reduced by $1 million due to IFRS 15.

Factoring in these reductions, adjusted EBITDA would have been $22.1 million on a comparable basis to last year. Q1 2019 recorded a net loss of $2.4 million versus net income of $8.1 million in the prior year.

The decline was in part due to a larger non-controlling interest in Peanuts, due to the Sony transaction and a non-cash write-down in deferred financing charges related to the debt repayment. Turning to Slide 10.

During the quarter, we made progress against our priority of enhancing our financial position. We reduced net debt by 31% to $503 million from the end of fiscal 2018 as the net proceeds from the Sony transaction were used to pay down a portion of our term loan.

As a result, our net leverage ratio has declined to 5.35 times from 6.07 times at year-end. We also remain focused on cost containment, which is reflected in cash SG&A cost for Q1 2019 staying largely flat compared to the same quarter last year, despite growth in WildBrain SG&A.

We anticipate that the recently announced sale of our Halifax animation studio which is expected to close on or around December 31st this year will contribute to improving margins beyond fiscal 2019 as well. Although we did generate negative cash flow from operating activities in the quarter, this was largely due to seasonal and timing factors and we expect to generate positive cash flow in the remainder of the year.

Turning to Slide 11, I'll now hand the call back to Michael. Michael?

Michael Donovan

Thank you, Doug, thank you. Yes.

Management is committed to reducing costs and paying down debt. And we are taking the necessary steps to streamline operations and to focus the business on the largest opportunities in the kids and family space.

We're confident that the targeted investments we're making across the organization are positioning the company for sustainable long-term growth. And with that, we will open up to questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Adam Shine of National Bank Financial. Your line is open.

Adam Shine

Thanks a lot. Good morning.

Maybe you just touched on cash flow, I mean Doug you alluded to timing as a negative driver in the Q1 and some recovery ahead. But maybe we can start with the new definition or any definition that you’re now looking at vis-à-vis free cash flow in F'19.

We had a few changes in prior years, curious with you in place what the new perspective is? And then as it relates to a follow-up, how do we see per Michael's comments, further delivering likely to materialize.

Is it going to be through some positive cash flow generation or we will see further asset sales over the near term? Thanks.

Doug Lamb

Thanks Adam. So what we're -- we are focused on cash flow from operating activities as disclosed on the cash statement right now.

So when I alluded to negative cash flow in the quarter, it was largely related to working capital fluctuations. We typically see seasonally in Q1 and then there is some timing things related to like we had more favorable tax credit collection last year versus this year where we're starting up earlier phase of production on a number of shows and so we're accruing tax credit.

So it's those kind of things. But overall, we expect to generate positive cash flow during fiscal 2019.

I think in terms of, of how we expect to address the debt? Like I think largely what we're always interested in opportunities and obviously we’ll explore anything that's going to significantly enhance shareholders value.

Right now our 100% focus is on improving operations and pursuing the opportunities in front of us. And we think that's going to lead to EBITDA growth on a sustainable basis.

Adam Shine

Okay. I was just waiting for any follow-ups from Michael.

So maybe specific to Michael, so is it fair to say that we don't need for the duration of F'19 to necessarily ask you each quarter about the pursuit of monetization necessarily of WildBrain and/or the idea that divestiture of the TV assets that's arguably off the table for the very, very near term?

Michael Donovan

Yes. I mean our approach is we're always trying to build shareholder value.

I'm personally a large shareholder, as you know. And so we’re looking at opportunities all the time to do that.

Having said that, our approach is operational, our shoulders are to the plough incrementally and redirecting the direction of the company to realize how to optimize all the opportunities out there for our library. And that’s the question, that’s in front of us.

How can we monetize our library at this new area, developing with these new entrants, in this ways? I mean for example one thing that we’re looking at is repackaging our library and combining it with our channel expertise and packaging it as channels into United States, that’s a high priority initiative for example.

So that’s our approach is block and tackle. At the same time, we are always looking at opportunities and having ongoing discussions.

The question being there, is that the optimal way to build library, to build the shareholder value? Our priority though is operations, our priority block and tackle.

Operator

Your next question comes from Aravinda Galappathige of Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Aravinda Galappathige

I wanted to touch on Peanuts. Looking at the non-controlling component of your EBITDA, as well as the consumer-owned line, it looks like Peanuts had a very good quarter on a year-over-year basis.

Michael or Doug, I was wondering if you could just talk to sort of the components that drove that. It was there more sort of geographic movement in terms of, I know that it’s been a big focus to kind of expand beyond the concentration in Japan?

Was that a big part of it or was that a matter of sort of expanded product lines? I just want to get a little bit more insight of just sort of what appears to be strong growth in the Peanuts line item?

Michael Donovan

Why don’t you speak first?

Josh Scherba

So maybe -- this is Josh Scherba here. Maybe I can touch on that.

So I think the team with Peanuts just continues to expand the business globally. There’s numerous ongoing initiatives at such a large worldwide brand that touches on so many territories that there’s various activities going on.

And we did see a number of overages in certain categories, which helped lead to strong quarter. But there I wouldn’t point to any one particular item that led to this.

It was overall a positive quarter for the brand.

Aravinda Galappathige

And just a follow-up Doug, maybe just to make sure that the math makes sense. The non-controlling number that you have, we can arrive at a reasonable estimate of by simply grossing it up, right?

Given that we know the minority percentages for Q1 last year and Q1 this year or there are lots of other adjustments that probably kind of make that a little bit more complicated?

Doug Lamb

I mean, it’s a little bit, there are some smaller minority interest in there related to, for example, a couple of minor WildBrain acquisitions, that sort of thing. But I think we did disclose the impact of Sony transaction in the quarter was $3.8 million, now just bear in mind that transaction closed July 23rd.

So I mean I think that gets you where you -- what you’re looking for.

Aravinda Galappathige

Okay, great. Thank you.

And just a quick follow-up relating to that. With respect to the Peanuts content going into WildBrain, I know that there’s a lot of the content is sort of, is still licensed to a number of parties including Warner.

But are at a stage where you're close to being able to take some of that content and maybe some of those brands in place into WildBrain, maybe further supercharge the growth you’re seeing there?

Doug Lamb

So there certainly is some short form content that we're generating for WildBrain related to the Peanuts brand which we expect to continue on. But as we've alluded to, there are larger content plans in development and those are progressing nicely and we expect to have news on those soon.

Aravinda Galappathige

Okay. Thank you.

I'll pass the line.

Operator

Your next question comes from Rob Goff of Echelon Wealth Partners. Your line is open.

Rob Goff

Thank you very much. My question would be about some of your strategic priorities as laid out, where you specify that you were looking to explore targeted partnerships to best monetize on our assets globally and then to form major agreements for Peanuts to grow the brand.

Could you give any additional color or perspective on those objectives? Do they include geographic territories or how best should we look at this?

Michael Donovan

Josh could you answer that please?

Josh Scherba

Well, we have a number of important strategic partnerships where we're partnered with Alpha, a major toy company out of China on Rev & Roll. We've got a strong partnership with Dentsu on Mega Man.

I think the key for us in these partnerships is we bring expertise around content, distribution, monetization and if we can partner with companies that bring something else to us whether it be toy or whether it be built-in brand awareness, we're going to continue to explore those. And these opportunities can come from anywhere in the world, but we're always looking for the best and brightest related content.

Michael Donovan

And then what we see for example with WildBrain is that it's killer app is e-commerce. We have a large, large audience and advertising where advertising currently drives its monetization model.

But we believe that it's true application, because there’s been so many homes one-third of all children who globally have access to YouTube. As we said, can see it, we feel that the opportunity is transactional, and so that's -- and quickly.

So that's for example what we're seeing. And we can partner with brands that want to get quickly to markets, where in the past it would take two or three years to build the TV series.

What we're finding and these are the discussions we're having is that we can fast forward our kind of production program full on WildBrain in months, weeks even and have the new shows on to tie-up to launches. Those are sorts of discussions we're having and those are sorts of relationships we're building.

Rob Goff

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from Drew McReynolds of RBC. Your line is open.

Drew McReynolds

Yes, thanks very much. Good morning.

Maybe for you Doug, my first question is, you’ve given directional guidance certainly on I think the expectations for EBITDA growth and positive operating cash flow for 2019 and indicated there will be progress on the balance sheet. I'm just wondering do we get to a time through fiscal '19 or maybe looking in fiscal 2020 when you're willing to put some more tangible targets -- financial targets around those kinds of metrics?

Doug Lamb

I mean mostly for now we're not actually going to provide guidance as I think you’re aware, Drew, right? We remain focused on bringing our leverage ratio down, that’s a high priority for our free cash as we cancelled the dividend.

And we have done a number of cost reduction initiatives in addition to investing in the high growth areas, that continues to be our focus, I think improving operations 100% as Michael sort of already said.

Drew McReynolds

And just a follow-up, maybe Michael. Can you talk to how the profitability of WildBrain is evolving given obviously the big top-line growth there?

And just a very quick third one, in terms of the sale of the Halifax studio, is there any kind of net proceeds here, just kind of what kind of economics we should model in here, if there is any? Thank you.

Michael Donovan

Yes. So the Halifax studio will add to the EBITDA going forward.

And we expect to see that to start materialize in 2020. And that’s part of an initiative which we’ve talked about in the previous calls of concentrating on premium content.

And so we have basically three studios and back in Vancouver we had two and what we’re doing is concentrating it down to one central studio in Vancouver, where we think we can get the most appropriate level of scale. That’s what’s going on there.

And in fact maybe on that, I’ll ask Aaron, if you have any further comments? Aaron Ames, our COO.

A - Aaron Ames

Yes. I would say, as far as Halifax studio, proceeds -- the real focus of why we sold the studio is to focus our resources around our premium content strategy, so that’s the priority for us.

As the proceeds really weren’t -- the proceeds weren’t that material but we really wanted to focus on our premium content strategy and that’s key for us. And having said that, the sale allows us to streamline our studio operations, reduce costs going forward as Michael said after 2019.

Josh Scherba

And then maybe I’ll jump in on the second question there related to WildBrain. WildBrain is certainly profitable and generating EBITDA, we’re focused on growing revenue.

WildBrain is the growth engine and that’s really what we want to focus on is growing revenue and views.

Operator

Your next question comes from Bentley Cross of TD Securities. Your line is open.

Bentley Cross

First, I wanted to ask a bit of a personal question for you, Michael. Yesterday, it was disclosed or at least that was the first time I noticed your options disclosure in that I believe they strike at $10 and you have until 2025 to get there.

Can you just maybe talk about how you and the board came to those metrics?

Michael Donovan

Yes. I mean, I believe you’ve for one called me an optimist.

But I believe that the shares will in the next several years, go several notches north of $10. So since I have been saying that to the board, the board held my feet to the fire on that.

And so therefore offered me options that triggered them, but they only trigger above $10. And I'm completely comfortable with that.

I think that that how it should bee where I don't want to be in this for $1 and $2, it's $40 and $50 that I'm in this. And that's what I -- that's what we’re doing, we're building this platform which is world-leading, it’s number one.

We have the largest library and we have the number one AVOD channel or collection of channels in the space that I believe will be the number one base space for the delivery of television for the next 20, 30 years. And I've been in television for very long time.

Also we are producing some very, very good shows right now. And also we're working very closely together, every part of the company has been realigned and teed up so that every part is working to every part.

And that's part of our value proposition. Not only are we a supplier of this network, this incredible network, but we also have these studios and we also have this library and we also are producing and distributing with the number one distributor of children's television outside the studios.

And bringing that all together into cohesive whole is will deliver the what I believe will be the large share price outcome that I think is coming. And so bringing by options to the higher price seemed fair and I'm happy that, that is so.

So that's I mean that's probably more than you wanted but that's -- and it is -- it's a personal thing to me, so.

Bentley Cross

You know, Michael that's just what I wanted. Thank you.

And then stepping back a little bit, I mean now is obviously a bigger picture question in terms of nuances for coming quarters, you mentioned a live action show being delivered to Netflix in October. Should we expect maybe a bigger revenue quarter or maybe a lower margin just in the coming quarter, just trying to model things a little bit more appropriately?

Josh Scherba

So there is always seasonality for sure. I would say that, that the live action series that’s referenced there, that's when it was officially launched on Netflix but they have rights and the opportunity to do that prior to that date.

So I wouldn't look into that for the quarter specifically.

Bentley Cross

Thanks, Josh.

Operator

Your next question comes from Tim Casey of BMO. Your line is open.

Tim Casey

Thanks. Michael if we go back to something you mentioned earlier in this call about pursuing -- I think you called it channel opportunities in the US for some of your content.

Can you flash that out a bit? I mean it would seem to me that's been the legacy side, it obviously has issues everywhere and then on the virtual bundle side and whatnot and again streaming options, that’s very crowded space.

Are you looking to partner with Sony on that? I mean how do you address the issue of scale to pursue that type of opportunity?

Thanks.

Michael Donovan

Okay. So first of all, our channels are doing well, usually well at the moment.

Our advertising is up -- the -- our ratings -- and that's because our ratings are up, in some cases 30% and 40% as opposed -- compared to this time last year, because we have four channels and different ones are off to a different degree but all are up, and that's for a number of reasons, but we think the main one being that we have -- we’re increasingly putting our own shows in the channels. Because a lot of them were -- they were -- a lot of our most popular shows were encumbered by other arrangements.

And as those encumbrances are coming up, we’re able to put more and more of our own shows into our channel and we think -- and together with other good programming decisions we are seeing unexpected growth there reflected in advertising. And also advertising I think is doing better in television than is generally understood because advertisers are coming back to television, because it’s a unique proposition, but that’s the kind of headline.

But our attitude is, to answer your question, specifically has been, how can we -- we’ve got this library, how can we monetize it in every way? Let’s think inside the box but let’s also think outside the box.

And there’s a lot of rock and roll taking place in the US and abroad in the cable industry and there’s a lot of competitive threats. And so we see one thing that we can do is take our channel infrastructure and expertise here in Canada, years of managing channels and really capable staff, combining that with our library and creating packaged channels and taking them into the United States and Latin America and elsewhere and creating channel offerings to help MSOs there meet the competitive threats of the SVODs, because then we think that that is an important area of growth for us going forward.

And I’m really, really excited with what our team is doing on that front.

Tim Casey

But Michael, I mean I have to push back on this, I mean the advertising you derived from these channels, does it move the dial? And the main source of revenue for your legacy channels is subscription and …

Michael Donovan

Yes, 91% subscription, 9% advertising.

Tim Casey

I don’t -- I mean do you really think you can replicate that model in a non-CRTC regulated environment? Sort of help me understand how you can make a goal of that?

Michael Donovan

The sense of the essential idea is to package our library into channels and sell them abroad as channels, leveraging our channel expertise, but that’s the principle. I can’t talk too much about this.

But I will I’m hoping to be able to in upcoming quarters. But that’s the idea.

Does that not make sense?

Tim Casey

Well, I just think scale is an issue and I mean a strategy based on driving a legacy model, I just think has challenges that are obvious out there.

Michael Donovan

But for example packaging our channels in SVODs and other models, not only legacy but also evolving new models. I mean so in other words, we’re looking at every single way to monetize the library.

And that’s how you have to think about it. How can we package our library to optimize its monetization?

That’s the way to look at and that’s how we're looking at it.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Rob Goff of Echelon Wealth Partners. Your line is open.

Rob Goff

Could you talk to the outlook for the non-WildBrain distribution and how you see that market evolving and momentum returning to the pipeline?

Josh Scherba

Sure. So we know distribution is lumpy.

And it's certainly a dynamic in evolving market. But overall, market trends are going in the right direction and there’s been recent announcements of new entrants looking for kids content and we remain optimistic about that, which can ultimately create more value for our library.

I think it's important to look at a couple of other areas that our library continues to derive value. I know you're mentioning separate from WildBrain but I think it's important to note that WildBrain is deriving value from the library and not just from straight monetizing of existing content but also derivative content that we're able to create based on our existing IPs.

I think we referenced Tiddlytubbies in our script and I think that's an important example of areas that we can continue to create additional value from our library.

Rob Goff

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from Adam Shine of National Bank Financial. Your line is open.

Adam Shine

Hi, thanks. Maybe just building a little bit on Tim's question bringing into Canada, Michael or Josh, revenues in the quarter on the TV side advertising was about $0.9 million versus the $1 million.

The initiatives that you guys embarked on maybe two plus years ago in terms of free-up the opportunity to go after advertising, and you said from the outset that it was a bit slow going, maybe a bit slower than anticipated. But I think we're two years plus into this initiative but do you see a greater push or is this really coming up against perhaps a variety of issues that are surprising you precluding greater increases?

Josh Scherba

What I would say is, on the advertising side, I mean I think we think it's a stable business for Canada and that’s kind of what we anticipate going forward. Obviously there are some ups and downs quarterly depending on the Christmas season and things like that, but we think that as a pretty stable business for us.

Adam Shine

Okay.

Michael Donovan

I’d just add Adam that we are seeing -- there have been costs taken out of them and we are seeing consistent stable cash flow at this point, which is really the primary focus for that business.

Adam Shine

Okay, alright. I'll leave it there.

Thanks.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to DHX for closing remarks.

Nancy Chan-Palmateer

Thank you everyone for listening to us today. We look forward to updating investors at or before annual meeting in December.

See you next quarter. Thanks.

Operator

This concludes today's webcast. You may now disconnect.