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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptApril 28, 2026

Hanna-Maria Heikkinen

Good morning, and welcome to this news conference for Wärtsilä Q1 2026 results. My name is Hanna-Maria Heikkinen, and I'm in charge of investor relations.

Today, our CEO, Håkan Agnevall, will start with the group highlights. He will also go through business performance, and after that, our CFO, Arjen Berends, will continue with key financials.

After the presentation, there is plenty of time for Q&A. Håkan, please, time to start.

Håkan Agnevall

Thank you, Hanna-Maria, and warm welcome to our Q1 report. I'm joining you today from Shanghai.

It's a pleasure to be here in China. As China accounts for more than half of the world's shipbuilding capacity, it's a highly relevant place for us to be as Wärtsilä.

If we start with the first quarter, I would say we have a strong start of the year, both in marine and energy. We start good in 2026.

If we look at the summary: double-digit growth in order intake, all-time high order book, and continuously improved operating results. The total order intake increased by 10% to €2.1 billion.

This quarter, we will also talk a lot about organic growth because you have seen, or you will see, that our both order intake and sales has been heavily affected by FX, by exchange rate, and also the fact that we have divested assets in portfolio business. Some of these numbers are good, but they look even greater when you look at the organic side, to say.

Order intake increased in energy and marine. Energy order intake increased by 56%, but if you exclude FX, organic growth is up 66%.

Marine order intake increased by 9, but once again, organic was even higher, 13%. All-time high order book of €8.9 billion.

Service, we know how important it is for Wärtsilä, the order intake on the organic side was up with 9%. Strong number.

Then, of course, we had FX impacts and we also had impacts of our divestment, but organically up 9%. That also leads to that our service 12-month rolling book-to-bill continues to be above 1.

Net sales remained stable at about €1.6 billion, and we continue to improve our profitability. Comparable operating results increased by 16% to €199 million, and that corresponds to 12.8% of net sales.

Operating results increased by 18% to €194 million, which is 12.5% of net sales. Cash flow from operating activities amounted to €7 million.

It's a bit lower than we normally see, but that's because we are building up basically engines for deliveries. Arjen will talk more about cash flow going forward, but we remain calm, composed, and optimistic also on the cash flow side going forward.

We continue to have, I would say, a very attractive return on capital employed at 64%. That's the highlights: strong performance both on the marine and energy side.

Let's dig a little bit further into the numbers. Order intake up 10%, €2.1 billion.

Of services, you see it's -1%, but once again, if you look on the organic growth, it's 9%. Equipment is up 23%, very strong on the energy side.

We have also seen that the first weeks of the second quarter has really started good for energy, with these two additional big data center orders in the US. Order book now is at a very very good and solid level, €8.9 billion.

We continue to highlight the message that we are building up an order backlog for deliveries further and further into the future, and that is very important when you model the sales recognition. Net sales flat, 1.5, but there is also the whole theme of FX and divestments we have done.

Services, €800 is down 9%. Equipment up 11% to €750 million.

Book-to-bill continuously well above 1, at 1.35. Comparable operating results increasing 16% to €199 million, 12.8%, mentioned before, and operating results up 18% to €194 million at 12.5% of net sales.

We also continue to follow Marine and Energy combined and Energy Storage. You can see that if you look at Marine and Energy combined, the order intake and the sales matrix is even stronger.

Order intake up 28%, organically it's 34% up. You could also see that the order book is up 27% in Marine and Energy combined to €7.5 billion.

Net sales, the organic growth 7%. Services is down, but equipment is up 22% to €504 million.

Book-to-bill in Marine and Energy combined at 1.55. Comparable operating results also continue to improve clearly in Marine and Energy combined, 7% up at €175 million and at 13.6%.

As we have our financial targets for Marine and Energy combined at 14%, we are not quite there yet, but we are on a solid path to reach our financial targets, I would say, as I have said many times before. We have proven ourselves by step-by-step improving the financial results as well.

On storage, we have a challenge, there is no doubt. The challenge is order intake.

We basically had no new order intake on the equipment side in storage. That's why you see the -53% down is basically services.

The sales is down 14% at €110 million. The good thing, though, with we on the storage side, you've seen the EBIT here, 5%.

The team is delivering the existing order backlog with a solid execution at 5%, which is in the higher end of the span of our financial targets. Clearly, we have a challenge on the order intake side, and we also been very clear that we need immediate order intake, otherwise we will have a loss-making second half of the year in Energy Storage.

Okay. Then some industry perspectives, starting with marine.

We do see in the first quarter healthier demand and also earnings for our customers supported by the market sentiment in the first quarter. The conflict in the Middle East has only had minor impact on Wärtsilä in Q1.

We have about 500 colleagues in the area. Key there: safety, taking care about our people so they can take care about our customers.

I think our safety team working with our colleagues in the area, has done a great work, we continue to support customers. In terms of revenues, etc., it has minor impact because, as our strength, our focus is on four-stroke, many of the vessels, the majority, are having two-stroke, limited impact on Wärtsilä short terms so far on the financial side.

The number of vessels ordered in the review period increased to 549, compared to 235 previous year, 2026 is clearly stronger than 2025, which was, as we all know, a rather weak year. The market sentiment in Q1 was supported by healthy demand and earnings, but obviously, the start of the conflict in the Middle East caused disruption and uncertainty in the shipping markets.

Once again, our core segments, we have not been impacted so far in a major way. Ordering appetite also continued to be on a good level in our core key segments.

As when we look at the graph to the right here, our core segments, even in Clarksons, are trending clearly higher than the 10-year average, and we do see that also going forward. Also good to note is that the shipyards' order book are at the highest level since 2009, with shipbuilding capacity expanding primarily in China.

In January to March, 100 new orders for alternative-fuel-capable ships were reported, so that's about 30, yeah, well, 26% of the capacity of the vessels. That's down from same period last year.

The major driver there for the decline is on the mix of vessels. Tankers, more tankers means less alternative fuel.

The underlying trend on decarb is clearly continuing, driven by the strategic approach by many of the shipowners and also by the fact these are long-time assets, 30 years, and you need to make sure that you have a fleet of vessels that you can be profitable with and operate in a relevant way the coming 30 years. Then you need the core proposition for Wärtsilä: fuel flexibility and fuel efficiency.

The narrative still holds. Then on the energy side, we do see a buoyant market.

There is a increased demand driven by energy transition investments. Electricity demand growth is certainly there.

Future projections have increased substantially, and clearly, there are very strong and good market opportunities for equipment providers. Two key themes have stood out in the macroeconomic development: load growth and increased tariff-related uncertainty.

In energy power plants, market demand for equipment and services has been strong, very strong. The baseload segment remains a consistent source of demand for thermal power.

Clearly, with further growth opportunities in data centers, and we continue our, I would say, successful journey in the US data center market, still with a very active pipeline and with two important and big captures just at the beginning of the second quarter. Also on the balancing side, we continue to see a very strong demand are going forward.

Before arriving here in Shanghai, I've spent a couple of days in Australia, clearly seeing the narrative playing out there, Australia over the years gradually moving from coal to renewables, and then you need the balancing power, battery storage, thermal generation, and engines is now getting in as one of the major technologies there. It's happening in many places of the world, I would say.

In battery storage, the demand is closely linked to the increased share of intermittent renewable energy systems clearly, which continues to progress in a good way. The US market is clearly facing headwinds from tariffs and regulatory changes.

Though many of the drivers, especially in the midsection of the US, remain solid. Affordable power is always attractive.

Then on top of this, we are now also, for storage team, have data centers as a potential new opportunity that we are looking at, to say. We haven't stepped in fully yet, but we are looking at it.

If we look at renewables growth, after significant growth driven by solar in the mid-2020s, I think now the renewable capacity addition globally is expected to decrease a little bit in 2026. We see long-term growth on the renewable side driving the need for balancing power.

There is more and more understanding and demand for balancing power because in many power systems, clearly this narrative that Wärtsilä, we've been talking about for several years of needing more balancing power when the share of renewables is growing, it's definitely playing out. Here you could see some of the International Energy Agency numbers and how they project the annual electricity demand growth in terawatt-hours.

We can see this significant shift here. There are plenty of drivers: electrification of industries, the need for cooling, the world is getting warmer, certainly here in Asia, it's a big theme; data centers; but also aging energy infrastructure in the States and, to a certain extent, also Europe.

There are several growth drivers, I would say, in the energy market. Now let's get back to the numbers and let's look at the visualization.

Organic order intake increased 22%, quite considerable. That's the organic.

If we look on the non-organic, to say, the order intake increased by 10%. If we look at Marine, it's up with 9%.

Energy is up with 56%. Energy Storage, though, is down significantly with 53%.

If we look equipment versus service, equipment order intake increased by 23%, service order intake remained stable. If we look at the order book, strong order book development, rolling book-to-bill continues to be above 1.

I think now it's 20th quarter consecutive that what we have remained with a book-to-bill larger than 1. Also well worth noting is that the order book is growing despite that we have eliminated close to €900 million related to divestments.

It is a strong achievement. We also know we really highlight this now, as you could see, we have a very attractive order intake.

We are taking orders for deliveries further into the future. We have also talked about the fact that we do less of EPC, which has percentage of completion normally as revenue recognition, to more equipment or EEQ, which means that the sales recognition also comes a little bit later when we deliver the engine basically.

We try to help you also, and I think we introduced this slide last quarter to get a little bit more concrete numbers on how the order book backlog is developing over time. It clearly shows that the order backlog will generate sales distributed further into the future.

You see particularly here in Energy how the order backlog is building up for sales and deliveries further ahead, beyond 2026. Organic net sales increased by 8%.

Net sales, if we take the non-organic, the complete, to say, the whole, it was stable. Marine net sales remained stable, Energy net sales increased by 12%, Energy Storage net sales decreased by 14%, equipment/service: so equipment net sales increased by 11% and service net sales decreased by 9%.

Profitability continued to improve in a positive way, step-by-step, on our path to reach our financial targets. Under the backdrop of a stable net sales, the comparable operating results increased by 16%, and comparable operating margin on 12-month rolling is also up from 10.9 to 12.4%.

Then I need help. Arjen, can you flip to the next page because I can't see it?

Arjen Berends

Which page should we flip to? We are now looking at the Marine overall, service book-to-bill above 1.

Do you see the same, Håkan?

Håkan Agnevall

No, I don't see anything right now. If you see it, maybe you can continue, Arjen, where I left off.

[unclear]

Arjen Berends

All right. Which slide should we start then with?

Håkan Agnevall

The one that I left off. Oh, yes.

Arjen Berends

Yes. You don't see the slides now, Håkan, right?

Håkan Agnevall

No, I don't see the slides.

Arjen Berends

All right. I will take over.

Order intake and comparable operating result in Marine. Order intake in Marine, let's say, had a good growth, 9%.

Net sales was down, let's say, -1%, but as Håkan mentioned, let's say, organically, it was still up. Comparable operating result, better operating leverage clearly, let's say, contributing positively.

One could ask, okay, why with more or less equal sales is operating leverage better? We are running our STH facility at close to maximum technical capacity, and that, of course, generates, let's say, operating leverage in the absorption of hours, while the deliveries take place later on, turning it into sales.

On the negative side, let's say, lower service volumes that we clearly could see comparing quarter on quarter, and increased R&D cost. Comparable operating result continues to trend upwards.

Overall Marine service book-to-bill above 1. Good developments.

We can see also the lines on retrofits and upgrades, as well as, let's say, service agreements turning to the upper direction again, which has been going down for some quarters, so that's good. Altogether, I would say, a good development ongoing here.

Also 7% CAGR year on year is a good number. If we look at Energy, order intake, first of all, +56%, really a strong step up.

Actually, in sales also, I would say 12% is also a strong step up in sales. If we look at the results, also here, better operating leverage, let's say, factory also contributes to Energy, it's the same equation here.

Also on Energy, we had lower service volumes and increased R&D cost as the, call it, the negative impacts on the profitability. Altogether, let's say, it went up.

Comparable operating results, slight dip down on a rolling 12-month basis, but we are confident on this going forward.

Håkan Agnevall

If I continue

Arjen Berends

on

Håkan Agnevall

the services side, a favorite topic of mine. The overall Energy service book-to-bill continued above 1.

Strong growth in service agreements and retrofits and upgrades. We see a 2% CAGR on the net sales.

Then you know that we like to talk about the different components of our service business. Here you see a couple of things that are really interesting.

You see the strong, continued book-to-bill on agreements. It's really really good.

You also see, and you want to say field services is down, it's less than 1.0. I think that's development it will go a little bit over time.

I'm not concerned about that as a trend. We see spare parts is down, but we should know that when agreements go up, there is, of course, spare parts under the agreement header as well.

It's classified in the agreements business. Overall, I would say the strong growth of agreements is really really good and is clearly in line with our strategy of moving up the service value ladder, as we've been talking about many times.

Then on the retrofit side, I think here you see clearly what we've been talking about in the past because it went down quite deep in the red, but now it's coming back, still not crossing the 1 again, but this is a project business, and therefore, it can be very lumpy. We have had some good progress here in the first quarter.

I've said before that I think the retrofit business will certainly be there and will be interesting. I think on the marine side, you could also see that the retrofit business is still down, and there we have a little bit of a challenge because certain projects gets postponed for the moment, to say.

Also on the marine side, I think we will see a positive outlook on service growth in general going forward. Now on storage, I think we should start with the first thing.

Today, we also announced that Tamara de Gruyter, who is leading storage, she will be leaving Wärtsilä after a long and very successful career, 30 years in the company. She has found a great new challenge outside of Wärtsilä, and we congratulate her to that.

We are very sad of seeing her leaving. She's done a great job with storage, which is, of course, in a very challenging situation, as we've been talking about, but she will still be with us and lead the business to end of August, and we have started the recruitment for a successor.

Thank you for Tamara for all your years in Wärtsilä, and you will still be with us for months here going forward. We will have a planned transition.

The challenge on storage is, of course, the order intake, which was very weak, basically zero on the new build side. Order intake down -53%, net sales also down.

The positive side, if you see on the EBIT, going into positive and a solid 5% EBIT margin with solid project execution, and also we have taken measures to reduce our costs, to increase our competitiveness. Clearly, the lower equipment volumes is a challenge to the whole business, and we do need orders, order intake, in the near future, otherwise we will be loss-making for the second half of 2026 in storage.

Here you have the waterfall on the Q-on-Q development on the EBIT side. We go from 11% to 12.8% in our continuous journey.

Marine is going up from 12 to 13%, Energy a bit down from 15.2 to 14.7%, Energy Storage, as I said, significant improvement, and Portfolio also a significant improvement from 6.9 to 11.4%. The comparable operating results increased with 16%.

Now other key financials. Over to you, Arjen.

Arjen Berends

Thank you, Håkan. If we look at other key financials, first of all, cash flow, it was mentioned already by Håkan, let's say €7 million in the quarter one, which is fairly low compared to one year ago.

Again, let's say the main underlying reason is working capital, and the main underlying reason of that is the increased project execution activity. This is not something that is unexpected, this is something that we have foreseen.

As said, STH runs at close to technical capacity. We need to produce engines now already for delivery in batches later on.

That's the consequence of that. At the same time, let's say we have payables, of course, going down.

Let's say we buy components from suppliers, that's also clearly impacting. Also receivables went up because we have invoiced customers for something that is not due yet, but still to be paid.

At the same time, also in Q1, we saw a lower level of advances received than what we had in, for example, the previous quarter, that was record high. Net interest-bearing debt, let's say, still very strong, nothing to comment on.

EBITDA, very good compared to previous year. Return on capital employed, ROCE, very strong level, still going very strong, and that keeps going also for a while, I would definitely believe.

Gearing also, let's say, nothing to comment on. We have a gearing target of positive, below -0.5, and we are clearly in the negative.

Solvency went a little bit, let's say, worse now in Q1, and that's happening every year in Q1. At the end of last year, we had 40.5%, now we have 35%.

Every year in Q1, you book the dividends against equity, and that has an impact on the solvency ratio. Earnings per share much better than previous year at the same quarter.

If we look at the trend lines, cash flow and operating working capital, as you can see, and I don't want to repeat myself, but let's say the working capital is the main driver for the reversal trend also in the cash flow. Reasons are known, this is not unexpected, nothing to further comment on that.

If we look at the financial targets, first of all, Marine and Energy combined, top left graph, organic growth 13%. Marine was 12%, actually, on that horizon, and Energy was 14%.

We are also approaching closer and closer, let's say, our 14% target. Now we are at a rolling 12-month basis at 13.9%, which was a notch up basically from end of last year, then it was 13.8%.

If we look at Energy Storage, of course, organic growth is a challenge, let's say Håkan has commented that also already, but profitability is very strong. We have a good margin in order book, and we have a good execution, very good execution actually, on a rolling 12-month basis, this is now 4.8% on the upper range of the financial target versus 3.3% at the end of last year.

Gearing, I mentioned already, not much to comment on, deeply negative, and also actually the same goes for dividend distribution. It's very well in line with our policy of paying 50% out of EPS at dividend.

Last year, it was 100% if you take the regular dividend and the extraordinary dividend together. With these words, I give it back to you, Håkan, on the guidance.

Can you hear us, Håkan? Oh, yes.

Håkan Agnevall

Thank you. On the Marine side, we expect the demand environment for the next 12 months to be similar to that of the comparison period.

I would say we are still trending on a high level, but it's going to be similar. On the Energy side, we expect the demand environment for the coming 12 months to be better than in the comparison period.

In storage, we also expect the demand situation to be better than the coming 12 months, but we also underline, specifically in storage, that the current geopolitical uncertainty particularly impacts this business and may certainly affect the growth. In general, we have a geopolitical situation where we underline that the current high external uncertainties makes forward-looking statements challenging.

Due to this high geopolitical uncertainty, the change in landscape for global trade and the lack of clarity related to tariffs, we've seen that they have been dynamic these days in the US, there are risks of postponements in investment decisions and also of global economic activity slowing down. That's our presentation and summary of the first quarter.

A strong quarter for Marine and Energy. We are moving forward towards our financial targets.

We have a challenge in order intake clearly in storage, but the team is executing in a very good way, but we need to address the challenge on the order intake. Overall, a good quarter.

Thank you. Hanna-Maria, let's go over to the Q&A.

Hanna-Maria Heikkinen

Thank you, Håkan. Thank you, Arjen.

Now continuing with the Q&A, handing over to the operator.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key 6 on your telephone keypad.

The next question comes from Daniela from Costa. Please go ahead.

Daniela Costa

Hi. Good morning.

Thank you. I just wanted to ask two related questions regarding the energy.

I think this was debated a bit last quarter, but I think when we look at sort of equipment order intake per megawatt, we haven't sort of seen the increasing evolution like we've seen in some of the turbine players. Can you maybe comment on why that is the case?

Now that you've sort of passed the reporting period, have got some really large data center orders, will we start to see that accretion coming through on order per megawatt and also sort of on margin from data center orders? Maybe just linking to that, you mentioned that you still have some capacity available from here to '29.

How many large orders like the one you took last week do you think you still have capacity to take? Thank you.

Håkan Agnevall

If I start with the latter part, how many orders, etc., we will not go into those details because that is highly, you could say, confidential information in the current market situation, I won't go and disclose that. I would say that it's not a lot of capacity.

It clearly depends on the type of energy and the size of the order, etc. I don't want to make more explicit statements because of the competitiveness in the market.

Then coming back to your questions on this famous, I would say, oversimplistic metric of just dividing US dollar per kilowatt, as we talked about before, it's the scope of our deliveries actually varies. It varies with the engine is in the core, but it's also how much of auxiliaries, where do you transport in the world?

US is a pretty big country with different transport costs, etc., etc. I've said it in the past, and I'm saying it before, we have good price realization on data centers.

From a sales perspective, we will start to see that kicking in during Q4 this year, and then it will gradually build up over the years to come. I don't know, Arjen, do you want to comment?

Arjen Berends

No, I think that's exactly what it is. Let's say if you look at the order intake Energy for Q1, it's basically all EEQ, and it's very geographically spread as well.

There are different scopes. As you rightfully say, let's say you have basic EEQ, you have extended EEQ.

If transport is part of your scope or not your scope, because there are also differences, it makes a big difference in the euro per kilowatt. I think it is a matrix, but I would not use it too much.

We have good realization of margins, that's what we are focused on.

Daniela Costa

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Vivek Midha from Citi. Please go ahead.

Vivek Midha

Thank you very much, everyone. Good morning.

Hope you can hear me well. My question is on working capital.

Thank you for the color on the quarter. We've had very healthy order intake and book-to-bill in the quarter, but nonetheless, working capital was a drag.

Given your announcements, the second quarter is likely to be another good quarter on the order intake. Nonetheless, you've mentioned that the fourth quarter level on working capital was exceptional.

Would you be able to give us some color as to how you expect the working capital to evolve over the coming quarter and over the coming year? Thank you.

Arjen Berends

We will not guide on cash flow, and not on working capital either. I'm expecting, let's say, negative working capital to sustain, and yes, you will have fluctuations.

Imagine if you have to deliver, let's say, 20 engine in one batch, let's say three, four months from now. You need to buy the components now, you need to do the assembly, you need to put them in front of the test beds, and they need to go one by one through the test bed.

It's obvious that you need to, let's say, pre-produce, make costs upfront before you can deliver the batch, which will generate the sales later on. Yes, then you have, of course, the new orders, they have typically advance payments, always have advance payments, I would say, down payments as well.

Timing of that is always difficult to say. Like I said, in Q1, it was on the lower end of, let's say, advances, but that can change suddenly, let's say, in Q2.

That timing is very difficult to predict, but I expect, let's say, negative working capital to sustain.

Vivek Midha

Okay. Just to be clear, we shouldn't read your comments about the exceptional working capital mean that you see a return to that level from Q4 as unlikely in the coming quarters?

Arjen Berends

No, I would say that was a really extraordinary level in Q4, and that was also driven by really high advances received. That I would not expect to go back to that level.

It will stay, let's say, good negative, let's put it that way.

Vivek Midha

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Sebastian Kuenne from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Sebastian Kuenne

Thank you for taking my questions. My first relates to Energy Storage.

I'm wondering what needs to happen for Wärtsilä to decide that you need a strategic decision for the Energy Storage business. You mentioned you immediately need order intake now to prevent it from being loss-making, but at the same time, it's a low-margin business as is, and Chinese competition is not decreasing going forward.

What needs to happen for you to make a decision there? Thank you.

Håkan Agnevall

As we all know, we did a strategic review, which was quite extensive, and we concluded that, yeah, a little bit more than a year ago. We made the conclusion before the Liberation Day tariffs, and also before, I would say, you could say the slowdown of electric car industry really impacted the battery cell market.

You could say that there has been some macro shifts after we made our strategic review. We have also said also when we concluded the strategic review that we will continuously evaluate all business units in Wärtsilä based on how they contribute to the group.

From that perspective, we will evaluate storage like we evaluate other parts of our business. Right now, our focus is really to get orders in.

I think there are some opportunities in some of our core markets, and also to work with costs. That is our focus right here, right now.

Sebastian Kuenne

Understood. I have one question regarding capacity for your engine production as well.

In your charts, you show that the end markets, marine end markets that are relevant for Wärtsilä, you expect some 30, 40, 50% growth in contracting going forward, really strong marine demand. At the same time, you indicate a good pipeline also for the data center baseload power business.

I'm wondering the plans that you have to increase your capacity, I think it was 35%, do you already now look beyond that and think, okay, actually, if end markets evolve as we think they will in the next two, three years, we need further expansion of capacity? Are you already now planning or discussing further expansion, or do you think this is still too early and it's more like, yeah, let's see how the business evolves and then go from there?

Thank you.

Håkan Agnevall

A highly relevant question just so we get the numbers right. Fully right, we said that by beginning of 2028, we have expanded our technical capacity with 35%.

However, just to put it in contrast, in 2025, we were at 75% of our technical capacity. If you look at the increase of our manufacturing capability, it's going from 75% to 135%.

That's an expansion with 80%. Now you need to be cautious just to translate that to sales immediately because manufacturing engines does not translate to sales immediately.

Just to calibrate the magnitude of the increase that we are doing. Then coming back to your core question: can we expand further?

We can certainly expand further. We need to grow in tandem with our supply chain, it's, of course, our own manufacturing and testing capability, but it's also our capability to ramp up our supply chain.

There is a structured work ongoing. In Q4 last year, just to give an example, we announced our strategic partner with Çimbelcam, who is a key supplier of big castings.

To your question, can we expand further? Yes, we can expand further, but let's take it step-by-step.

We do see a very strong demand situation going forward.

Sebastian Kuenne

Many thanks. Perfect.

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Antti Kansanen from SEB. Please go ahead.

Antti Kansanen

Hi, guys. Thank you for taking my questions.

I have two, and I'll start with the kind of the capacity or situation on the power plant side. When you talk with your clients, obviously especially the US data center ones, but generally as well, do you think that your ability to deliver is aligned with the overall kind of approach of timelines in the sense that are other bottlenecks as well on building the power plants, the permitting stuff and the EPC components and so on?

Do you think kind of the ability to, let's say, deliver '28, '29, 2030 commissioning is not actually a bottleneck in terms of your engines, but the bottlenecks are elsewhere? Now,

Håkan Agnevall

in my view, there are two major bottlenecks: one is data chips and the other one is power. If we had the capability to deliver with shorter delivery times or with more capacity, we could sell more.

There's not only one bottleneck, but we are certainly part of being a bottleneck. Then

Antti Kansanen

the second question is a little bit about the phasing of capacity or free capacity and revenue recognition in a sense that now looking at Q2, two very sizeable data center deals with kind of a deliveries '28, '29 or commissioning '28, '29, over kind of a how long time period that's be spread in your production? The 40-plus engines, hundreds of megawatts, in a sense that how kind of a long time will that kind of burden your capacity, and how should we model that one?

Håkan Agnevall

Håkan, do you want to comment on that?

Arjen Berends

Of course, you need to, let's say, do this in, let's say, also within such a big order, you deliver typically in batches. It's not that all the 40-plus engines go in one go, you typically deliver in batches.

Of course, you need to, let's say, plan that well in advance. If you need to deliver a batch of, let's say, 10 or 15, like I said already with my example on cash flow, you need to pre-produce, and that needs to be planned.

You need probably for these orders to be delivered in '28 fully, I would assume that we already end of this year need to at least make sure that the supply chain delivers certain critical components, that we are not short of that, and then it goes on into 2027.

Håkan Agnevall

Sorry, Antti, if I may add, I really would take a very careful look on the periodization of our order backlog because we are clearly signaling that sales recognition will be further out in the future. We have a great order intake, but sales recognition will clearly go further into the future.

Antti Kansanen

No, I appreciate that. Actually, the follow-up was on what, Arjen, you mentioned that you deliver in batches, but would the revenue recognition still be tilted towards the commissioning of the plant?

The earnings contribute

Arjen Berends

No, in these bigger orders, it's the batches basically that drives it.

Antti Kansanen

All right. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Max Yates from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Max Yates

Thank you. Good morning.

Could I just ask firstly about Section 232? We've obviously had some changes with tariffs.

I think there was some adjustments to anything with sort of percentage of metal over 15%, there was some specifics around obviously gas engines up to certain sizes. Quite a lot of moving parts.

Could you just give us your take on how this will affect your business, potentially in terms of ordering and cost, and whether we should think about any impact going forward?

Håkan Agnevall

I would say we have done a careful analysis. It's a complex framework and dynamic framework.

When we make the assessment of the overall situation, different rates, different custom codes, etc., etc., I think net-net, it has a very limited impact on the type of tariffs that our customers will pay. It will be approximately on the same level as before the change.

From a customer perspective, it's about the same.

Max Yates

Okay. If I look at your orders this quarter, you had roughly a gigawatt of energy orders, round numbers, I think the data center one was 429 million 429 megawatts, you had a much better quarter in terms of kind of non-data center orders.

Could you just talk a little bit around what regions those were coming from, what was driving it? I guess what I'm trying to understand is, we know from the second quarter there's going to be a lot of data center orders.

How do we think about that non-data center order piece going forward, and is some of your kind of more cautious commentary around geopolitical headwinds, uncertainty, is that targeted maybe at these non-data center customers? A little bit of color there would be great.

Thank you.

Håkan Agnevall

I would say there is some in North America, some in South America, some in Asia, to say. It's, to your point, it's not only data center orders.

Max Yates

Okay. Given that was quick, can I just ask one very quick sort of, I guess, conceptual question?

We've basically seen this morning your energy margins have gone down year over year because your share of energy new equipment has gone up. Your share of new equipment this morning in Q1 is about 41% of your energy division.

If I look at what's going to happen over the next three years, your energy share, or your new equipment share of revenues, is going to go from about 40% to about 60% of your overall division. I guess what I'm trying to understand is, we've all been used to for Wärtsilä when equipment goes up, margins tend to go down.

I guess, is there a danger here that we all start looking at margins, I think many in the market would say your margins could go to 20% plus in Energy. Is there a danger that actually, as that mix increases, the revenues grow, the absolute EBIT grows, but actually the margin expansion stays relatively constant because of that mix?

Just conceptually, how should we think about that so we don't get over-excited or so we don't get caught out as the energy share or the new equipment share of revenue grows over the next two, three years?

Håkan Agnevall

I think new build will grow, service will grow, but we are certainly in a time period where new build will grow faster. That's a high likelihood considering the buoyant market.

The profitability on new build is generally lower than services. However, I would say, we talked about it, we have good price realization on the new build that we are taking in now.

Then, and I know you're a long-term investor, that will be fantastic service business generated by all that new build capacity that we are taking in now because the new build that we are taking in now, there is a lot, we talked about that, it's a lot of 24/7 baseload operation.

Max Yates

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Vlad from Sergievskiy. Please go ahead.

Vladimir Sergievskiy

Yes. Good morning.

Thanks very much for taking my question. Could you talk about service order growth rates including and excluding agreements?

How materially the difference is between the two? Also, any particular reason for declining service sales this quarter, and when realistically do you think we can expect service business for Wärtsilä to return to growth?

Håkan Agnevall

I would argue, as I said, service is growing quite considerably on the organic side, at 9% for the whole group. Then we have had a FX impact, that's primarily US dollar to euro, and we also had a impact on the divestments.

I would say it's about 50/50 split on those two drivers. We will see growth going forward.

I'm not sure, Arjen, you need to help me here, but I'm not sure we are breaking down the growth percentages of each of the disciplines, to say.

Arjen Berends

No, let's say organic growth now out of my head, I think for Marine was actually 9% and for service 6%, if my memory serves me well here now, Q on Q. Let's say, yes, we are growing, and we are not breaking down, let's say, the growth ratio per revenue stream.

Of course, let's say depends a bit on what type of agreement there is. There is a piece of parts in there, is a piece of field service in there, it's not just black and white parts versus agreements, there is also, let's say, mixes, in particular on the agreement side.

Vladimir Sergievskiy

Okay. Thanks very much.

The question is on profitability as well. Your portfolio business was a clear highlight this quarter.

Did you manage to improve the business by that much so that new owners will be getting a double-digit profitability business going forward from here, or there was something specific coinciding in this quarter to support double-digit profitability in portfolio?

Arjen Berends

Sorry, I missed that first part of the question.

Hanna-Maria Heikkinen

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Håkan Agnevall

I heard it a little bit. Sorry, Vlad, can you repeat?

Because I think both me and Arjen, we are sitting in different parts of the world, we didn't hear you quite.

Vladimir Sergievskiy

No problem at all, if I can try to do it again. Your portfolio business has delivered an exceptionally strong margin in Q1.

The question is, is that you've been able to improve this portfolio business so much that this double-digit margin will be maintained for the new owners of this business, or there was something specific in this quarter that drove margin to that high level?

Arjen Berends

No, I can answer that. It is purely, let's say, commercially driven.

Yes, let's say you might remember, let's say long time ago when the current two business units that we still have there, Gas Solutions and Water & Waste, were put into this portfolio business unit, they were loss-making. We have been able to convert that to a profit-making in order to be able to, let's say, also divest them in a better way.

This is purely, let's say, commercial work, commercially driven, let's put it that way. There is no special items in Q1.

Håkan Agnevall

To add to that, and also, Vlad, we continue to have the same messages like before that, we are planning to close Gas Solutions in Q2

Arjen Berends

and

Håkan Agnevall

Water & Waste latest in Q3.

Vladimir Sergievskiy

Understood. Thanks very much, gentlemen.

Operator

The next question comes from Sven Weier from UBS. Please go ahead.

Sven Weier

Yeah. Good morning.

Thanks for taking my questions. First one is to follow up on the Texas order, which obviously is quite a bit above your sweet spot range that you mentioned before.

If you consider also the capacity that you have left to be booked, is this order going to remain like an exception, or you see yourself even getting closer to the gigawatt range? What was the kind of also maybe the market feedback from you winning that order?

Did it resonate very well with other projects that haven't made a decision yet? Yeah.

Håkan Agnevall

To give a little bit more color, we talked about that we have a pipeline, a data center pipeline. We talked about that it's buoyant and it's growing.

If I look in that and we also talked about that it's very dynamic. We have clearly seen, now you could see the five orders in the US that they are getting bigger and bigger.

I wouldn't say that each new order in data centers related to the US will be of the same size, they will be smaller, but there will be big ones as well. There are gigawatt potential orders in that very dynamic pipeline that comes and goes.

It's not completely off the wall of getting gigawatt even with our engines, but we will have a mix of big ones and smaller ones. If you look on the average, I would say the trend is slowly increasing in the US.

Sven Weier

What is your expectation on the Brazil pipeline in terms of the power auction we had? Should we see those orders in Q2 already or later?

Håkan Agnevall

The auction has taken place. I cannot comment because we are sitting and having talks with customer as we speak, but there are clear opportunities, yes.

Sven Weier

Then just finally, if I may, just coming back on the situation on marine retrofits and regulation, I was just wondering what your clients tell you on the methanol engine order book because we just recently saw Pacific Basin cancelling a methanol order and converting it into conventional fuel, and they basically cited regulatory uncertainty, but also the 15% cost saving on the overall vessel order. That's probably on the two-stroke side.

Are you seeing similar thoughts among your clients to make a change?

Håkan Agnevall

Far, we sold about 350, we have orders for about 350 methanol engines. We haven't had any cancellations that I'm aware of so far.

Also, of course, we have our dual-fuel approach. I would say, clear vast majority of those that we have delivered out of the 350, all the 350 has not been delivered yet, but of the ones that have been delivered, the vast majority is running on traditional fuels.

Because the challenge that customers have faced is to find the methanol, it's not readily available, but because of this multifuel capability, we haven't had any cancellations so far.

Sven Weier

Is that the content per vessel you have on the methanol ticket bigger than if you just have kind of traditional dual fuel?

Håkan Agnevall

I would say that a methanol-enabled dual-fuel engine is the technology there FutureProof. We have better price realization on new technology than on standard traditional technology.

Just clarify, the methanol engines that we are delivered, they are dual fuel. They are not single-fuel engine.

Sven Weier

Understood. Thank you, Håkan.

Operator

The next question comes from Uma Samlin from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Uma Samlin

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

Thank you very much for taking my question. My first one is a follow-up on the energy margins.

You talked about we will start to see the price realization of the new build and also the service potential to kick in to help your margin going forward. Just looking at your existing order, when will we start to see that coming into the margins?

Håkan Agnevall

I think if we look at data center deliveries, they are starting to ramp up in Q4, and then well into 2027.

Arjen Berends

Yeah.

Håkan Agnevall

That's the time frame.

Uma Samlin

Yeah. For service?

Håkan Agnevall

Service, I would say, in general, it takes four to five years. Because you need to, you install, you operate under warranty, and you go in.

The great things today, we sign service agreements almost when we contract, when we have the new build, we normally contract services as well, either at the same time or just a couple of months later. Then, of course, when the revenues kicks in and therefore starts to generate the top line and EBIT, that's normally a four- to five-year time frame.

That's why I'm saying also commenting on Max, you will see the major impact on the service side with a four- to five-year time lag.

Arjen Berends

Unless we agree an operation and maintenance contract, because then it starts at commissioning,

Håkan Agnevall

yeah. That is correct.

Uma Samlin

That's super helpful. Thank you very much.

Just on that point, for the data center order book, for example, the Texas order book, when would you expect to see the service contract kicking in? Is that just in a couple of months already?

Håkan Agnevall

I can't go into that because we are in negotiation with customers, I will have to come back on that.

Uma Samlin

Yeah. Thank you very much.

Just the last one for me. We have seen the order from Hyundai Heavy recently to supply data centers.

Just wondering, is there any changing competitive landscapes on the data center engine side? Also, do you see any pricing potentials perhaps outside the data center space that spilling into the marine service, marine engine supply chain?

Håkan Agnevall

No, I haven't seen that so far. I think right now, it's a very buoyant market.

As I said, we have good price realization, both in Energy and Marine. We are an established supplier.

We have years and years of references. We have the industry-leading service network both on the Energy and Marine.

In the US, we've been for decades. I think we have a very strong brand, and we have proven that we can execute and that our plants are running with very high uptime, reliability.

We have a strong market position. I rather talk about that this is an opportunity for engine technology to actually over time expand its market share because there are some intrinsic benefits with engine technology compared to the gas turbines.

Especially when we talk about aeroderivatives in the industrial: better fuel efficiency, no water consumption, water is a big topic in the US, and also for in the future for potential balancing, better at handling fluctuating loads. I see that much more of a important competitive dynamic than that we have new entrants coming in on the engine side.

Uma Samlin

Yeah. Super helpful.

Thank you very much.

Håkan Agnevall

Thank you.

Hanna-Maria Heikkinen

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