Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Aditya Vision Limited Q4 and FY26 earnings conference call, hosted by Axis Capital. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
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I now hand the conference over to Ms. Devanshi Kamdar from Axis Capital.
Thank you, and over to you, ma'am. Thank you, Danesh.
Devanshi Khandelwal
Good evening everyone, and thank you for joining us today for Aditya Vision's Q4 and FY26 earnings call. We are glad to have the senior management team with us, including Mr.
Yashovardhan Sinha, Chairman and Managing Director, and Ms. Yosham Vardhan, Whole-Time Director.
I will now invite the management to share their opening remarks, after which we will move into the Q&A session. Over to you.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you, Devanshi. Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and a warm welcome to all of you.
Hope you have had you have gone through our investor presentation, and if not, I strongly recommend you to go through it. As we speak today our about our FY Q4 and full year FY26 performance, I would like to take a moment to step back and reflect on the journey that has brought us here.
Aditya Vision started as a small single store with a simple vision to make quality consumer durable accessible, affordable, and trustworthy for customers in underserved markets. Today, as we close FY26 with 207 stores across four states, that journey has scaled meaningfully.
Over the last 27 years, that vision of Aditya has guided every decision we have taken, whether it was entering into new towns, building relationships with customers, or staying disciplined in how we grow. I can say that our vision has not only scaled, it has become bolder and resilient.
FY26 in many ways not only tested that vision, but also turned to be a landmark year for the for our business model. What is encouraging for us is that despite this year having the weakest summer since our inception, we delivered approximately 18% revenue growth year-over-year and 11% PAT growth year-over-year.
At the same time, we maintained gross margins at around 15.6% and EBITDA margins at 8.5%, reflecting our continued focus on profitable growth. I'm delighted to share that in Q4 we delivered a strong revenue growth of 28%, accompanied by an impressive PAT growth of 36% year-on-year.
The last financial year liberated our company from the shackles of season seasonal dependence model, heavily dependent on Q1, and more so freed us from the from a seasonal blockade of being dependent on H1 for growth. I'm truly delighted to give the comfort to our investors, stakeholders that your company is now an all-weather, all-season company.
Despite Q1 FY26 and H1 FY26 delivering only marginal growth of 6% and 11% respectively, we still concluded the year with top-line growth of 18%, which is quite respectable. The year began with an unusually weak summer season that extended into late Q2, impacting demand of our core cooling category during the first half.
Prolonged rains and delays in implementation of GST 2.0 further slowed the recovery trajectory in Q2. What stands out is not the challenge, it's how the business responded.
Historically, Q1 and Q2 together contributed nearly 55 to 60% of our annual sales. Despite losing these low-hanging sales, we did extremely well in Q3 FY26 with a top-line growth of 28%, driven by festive season demand.
The momentum further accelerated in Q4 FY26, where the company recorded another robust top-line growth of 28%. As a result, we see that the second half is now becoming as important as the first half, and our business is regularly transitioning towards a more balanced full-year full financial year model.
This performance was further supported by our strategy of stocking inventory at the right time, which enabled us to fully capture demand and deliver an exceptionally strong quarter. On the expansion front, from this year marks a defining phase in our journey.
We have added 102 stores in this in the last 3 years, which is almost equal to 105 stores where we built in the previous 23 to 24 years. We have entered Chhattisgarh earlier than planned with three stores, marking our foray into fourth targeted state.
This is an important step in our in our expansion journey, as we continue to replicate our model, culture, and customer trust across new geographies in a calibrated manner. As I speak, another neighboring state bodes well for our future expansion, which is earlier withheld due to political uncertainties.
We are now present with 118 stores in Bihar across 38 districts, 33 in Jharkhand covering 22 out of 24 districts, 53 in Uttar Pradesh covering 30 out of 75 districts, and three stores in Chhattisgarh covering 2 out of 33 districts. We plan to add more stores annually, with a strong focus on scaling our presence in Uttar Pradesh and Chhattisgarh, while continuing to deepen our leadership across Bihar and Jharkhand.
We're also on track to enter Madhya Pradesh this financial year, as we expand into new geographies in a calibrated manner. You'll happy You'll be happy to know that we have onboarded Pankaj Tripathi as our brand ambassador, further strengthening our connect and brand recall across our core markets.
Our inventory inventory levels at the end of Q4 remains higher at approximately 840 crore, but this is a conscious and strategic decision. We acted early in anticipation of supply-side uncertainties highlighted by OEMs, particularly around gas shortages due to the sudden Gulf War.
We also leveraged price changes driven by BEE norms revisions, where product prices have increased by around 8 to 10%, to secure inventory at relatively better cost and to remain competitive in the market. Importantly, with clear signals of a strong summer ahead, we ensured that we are fully stocked to meet demand without disruption and, at the same time, remain competitive.
When I look at what where we stand today, what gives me confidence is that we are no longer just expanding, we are evolving with resilience. More most importantly, our vision is no longer limited to where and how we started.
It is now on a catch-up mode of the huge geographies laden with above-average population with ever-rising disposable incomes. With this approach, backed by disciplined execution, strong regional understanding, and a customer-first mindset, we believe we are in well-positioned to deliver consistent and sustainable growth over medium to long term.
With With that, I would now like to hand over the floor to Mrs. Yosham Vardhan to take you through the financial highlights.
Miss Yosham?
Yosham Vardhan
Thank you, sir. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
We are pleased to present the financial performance for Q4 FY26 and the full-year FY26. For the full year FY26, revenue grew by 18%, reaching 2,672 crore.
Gross margin stood at 15.6%. EBITDA reached 228 crore, registering a growth of 12% with EBITDA margin at 8.5%.
Profit before tax stood at 157 crore, with PBT margin at 5.9%. PAT stood at 117 crore, growing by 11% Y-o-Y.
Same-store sales growth for FY26 stood at 8%. For Q4 FY26, revenue increased by 28% Y-o-Y, reaching 625 crore.
Gross margin stood at 16%. EBITDA for the quarter was 51 crore, with EBITDA margin at 8.1%.
Profit before tax stood at 31 crore, with PBT margin at 4.9%. PAT grew by 36% Y-o-Y to 24 22 crore.
Our store count stood at 207 stores as of March 31st, 2026. Same-store sales growth for this quarter stood at 18%.
In Q4 FY26, Bihar remained our largest revenue contributor at 74%, followed by UP at 14%, and Jharkhand at 12%. In FY26, Bihar contributed to remain our largest market, contributing 75% of revenues, followed by UP at 13%, and Jharkhand at 12%.
This reflects the strength of our core markets, while our newer regions continue to scale up steadily. We can now open the floor for questions.
Operator
Thank you so much, ma'am. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question and answer session.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press "*" and "1" on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press "*" and "2".
Participants are requested to use handsets only while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll wait for a moment while a question queue assembles.
Our first question comes from the line of Aditya Bhartia from Investec. Please go ahead.
Aditya Bhartia
Hi. Good evening, sir.
My first question is on inventory for room ACs that we are carrying. Do you think that the inventory that we will be carrying will be significantly higher than what general competitors will be carrying, and to that extent it will be a big competitive advantage at least in the next quarter?
Should that also bode well for margins and boost our margins from what is usually the case in first quarter?
Yashovardhan Sinha
Aditya, thank you for asking me. We cannot comment on inventories of our other competitors.
As far as we are concerned, we are adequately stocked and that is as per our strategy, which I'll not like to divulge. It's our strategy to build up inventory as far as cooling products are concerned.
Definitely one thing I can say that we'll be carrying inventory as per our need and as per our historical figures.
Aditya Bhartia
Sure, sir. Given that this year is very unusual one, wherein we are seeing multiple price hikes as we are kind of progressing through the season, do you think a scenario like this helps us a lot in terms of margins, or is it that it's almost the same scenario for all retailers and to that extent the entire benefit gets passed on to the end consumer?
What are you really seeing in the marketplace?
Yashovardhan Sinha
I will tell you, Aditya, actually the whole business model is like that even if they are hiking prices, OEMs, since we are carrying our inventory, this is the reason we carry a lot of inventory because we know that price changes can come. For smaller dealers, they may be having those inventory of earlier pricing.
We want to remain competitive all the time, and so our this buildup of inventory helps us in being competitive all the time. Which is very important and very necessary also for our business.
This competitiveness remains there, it's not necessary that whenever there is a hike in price, that comes as a profit to us. Rather we watch the market, how it reacts, then only we take a call.
Our profitability is not very much dependent on price hikes of OEMs.
Aditya Bhartia
Understood, sir. That's very clear.
Sir, my second question is that given that almost 50% of our stores are 3 years or less than 3 years old, and that proportion of new store addition will gradually be coming down, do you think that that will be a bit of a margin lever as those stores start generating higher revenues, become profitable, or improve their profitability, even the company-level profitability can have some benefit out of it? I'm specifically asking because in UP we would have spent a fair bit of money, that will start getting absorbed over larger revenues.
How are you thinking about margins from a slightly longer-term perspective?
Yashovardhan Sinha
You are absolutely right, Aditya. In fact, our these stores which you referred to, in fact, whenever our bottom is now getting heavy in the sense that more and more matured stores will be there and fewer stores, as you said that in percentage terms fewer stores will be added as a percentage.
This is why, in fact, in my opening speech also I told you that in near term we'll be, in fact, definitely having better control over our operating expenses.
Aditya Bhartia
Sure, sir. Sir, anything that you can share in terms of how throughput per store of a mature store and margins of a mature store may differ from a store that let's say is 2 years old?
Yashovardhan Sinha
Yes, of course it matters, but it's not very, I'll say, similar to each other. All the stores are having different metrics all territories are slightly different.
I can tell you one thing that after 3 years, at least we take these stores as quite matured. However, one full last year was washed out.
In fact, this whole arithmetic has gone little haywire, but we are very confident that once in this current financial year, once we are in normal season, then all these branches are going to catch up to the previous expectations.
Aditya Bhartia
Understood, sir. That's very helpful.
Thank you so much.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Yash Sonthalia from Edelweiss Public Alpha.
Please go ahead.
Yash Sonthalia
Hi. Thank you, team, for taking my question, and congratulations on good set of numbers.
My first question is I want to double-click on gross margins of 100 bps negative Y-o-Y. Is it more or less because of change in product mix, and if yes, can you help me understand what has changed over there, why we have seen 50% growth in small appliances and why the hit on the large appliances?
Yashovardhan Sinha
I can tell you that, Yash. It's very simple.
In fact, gross margin has come down only because that we failed to capitalize on our seasonal product like air conditioners, air coolers, and refrigerators during H1. Obviously, we always feel that these appliances are having better margins, but there because of the seasonality and because of bad season which we encountered last financial year, margins will naturally be depressed.
Secondly, when share of these products came down, share of mobility, etc., went up, and even what you said that small appliances. Maybe and mobility ASP was also gradually rising throughout the year.
More and more volume was coming through these products, which were having lesser margin. I still, I think that despite being a bad year as far as seasonal productivity was concerned, we have done fairly well in containing the margin to these levels.
Yash Sonthalia
Understood. Sir, my question was more related specifically to Q4, like Q1, Q2 we understand because of unseasonal rain and
Yashovardhan Sinha
Okay. I'll tell you.
Actually, it has come down just because that in Q4, ASP of mobiles went up by 20 to 20%. The share of volume of that mobility was far more 20% more than what we were encountering in a year before.
This was the reason that and that carries low margin. This was the reason for the Q4.
Laptop, again, laptop also the ASP went up by 10 8 to 10%. Both these products which constitutes more than 25% of our sales, they had impacted it.
Because of price hike, it has impacted our margin.
Yash Sonthalia
Got it. Very clear, sir.
Yashovardhan Sinha
If you want more clarification, I can give you that in a basket where you have products of lower margin and these have grown because of sudden spurt in their prices, then obviously entire margin of the basket will come down.
Yash Sonthalia
Got it, sir. Can you please help me with so 50 we saw 50% growth in other expense, and majority of this will be promotional because of the expansion in UP.
Can you help me what was the exceptional or one-off advertisement spend we have done in UP to normalize the numbers?
Yashovardhan Sinha
As I told you that we onboarded our brand ambassador also during this period as well as we were again and again I am telling you that we are entering new geographies and more matured and, in fact, evolved geographies of Uttar Pradesh, western Uttar Pradesh. Where we are now trying to invest as also and we are doing quite well there, and only because of our efforts.
I don't think as we grow and as you expand in the geographies, your freight costs, every cost, all costs they go up. Is this elevated miscellaneous.
Everything goes up. Your 18% volume has come, your credit card commission is going to go up, your DBD is going to go up, there are several expenses which are going to go up with your sales.
Yash Sonthalia
Got it, sir. Majority of our expansion is right now happening in UP, and going ahead also assuming it is going to be very similar, can you give some color how the unit economics of some mature stores which are now 20, 30 stores has been present in UP for last 2 years or more?
What is the performance of those stores?
Yashovardhan Sinha
I got your point, Yash. I've just told you one thing that one year has, in fact, not responded to our mother in normal way, as I told you last year.
Even if they are 2 years older, we consider it as 1 year older only because they haven't encountered let us say Q1 or Q2, a similar Q1, Q2 which has always come to the company. That way I'll say that they have been doing well, and they will do very well once we settle down.
Yash Sonthalia
Got it. Thanks a lot, sir, for answering my questions.
Best of luck for this season.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you, Yash.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Aniruddha Joshi from ICICI Securities.
Please go ahead.
Aniruddha Joshi
Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity, and congrats for great set of numbers.
Sir, two questions. Can you indicate what will be the normalized margins for Bihar as a state?
Because that's a completely mature state for us, and like UP or Chhattisgarh and then MP may dilute the margins. What is the margin that a mature state like Bihar is generating?
By what time frame do we see UP also reaching to similar margins? Means maybe 2 years, 3 years down the line?
Yashovardhan Sinha
I can comment on your second part of the question, but not the first part, because we usually do not divulge because of competition and all that. We do not divulge state-wise margins.
I hope you are getting my point, Aniruddha.
Aniruddha Joshi
Yeah. Sure, sir.
Yashovardhan Sinha
I can only say that, yes, we are looking forward to even UP or other states where we are expanding, it will take some time, but we are very conscious of our margins, as you must have seen us right through so many years. We will try always hard, but not at the cost of our sales.
Our dominant position will be built. At the same time, we gradually increase our margins.
This is the way we have come up in Bihar also, and same will be the strategy going forward in UP. This will be our strategy.
Rather than asking me margin for a particular state, I'll say that we have to make other states catch up with that Bihar, and for that all the time we are working.
Aniruddha Joshi
Okay. Sure, sir.
Got it. The second question, if I take the interest cost and divide it by average debt, we get a rate of interest at almost 12.8, 13%.
That's a pretty high interest rate. One, is it average
Yashovardhan Sinha
This includes finance cost on lease liabilities also. This is not your bank interest.
Our bank interest, again, I cannot divulge you because banks do not like us to divulge the rate of ROIs. What you are looking towards is this finance cost includes finance interest on lease finance also.
Aniruddha Joshi
That
Yashovardhan Sinha
when you'll get the full annual report, then you can find that separately.
Aniruddha Joshi
Okay. Sure, sir.
Understood. Sir, and third and last question.
Any outlook on the real estate or rental inflation? Because post IT slowdown or some of the issues in IT sector due to AI, we are hearing about some slowdown in real estate markets in places like Pune, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, etc.
I don't know, is there having any derivative impact on the real estate market in Bihar, Jharkhand or even UP also?
Yashovardhan Sinha
No, not at all, Aniruddha. As they're having hardly having few, it has not impacted neither Bihar or nor UP or Jharkhand.
Till now it has not impacted. It has not come down, but maybe let's see what is in store in future.
Aniruddha Joshi
Okay. Sure, sir.
Absolutely last question. Is there any plans to implement AI in the operations?
Because we keep hearing about other retailers also investing in terms of AI for demand generation, reaching out to customers, and multiple other in a way initiatives. Any plans on that?
Yeah. Thank you.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Aniruddha, actually, we are always open to new ideas and always exploring these things, AI and other things, but it's not that we go with the crowd. We always explore and we would like to see the benefits vis-a-vis the cost we are going to incur.
Everything will be taken into account, what benefit we are going to get, then only we'll take a decision, the management will take a decision.
Aniruddha Joshi
Okay. Sure, sir.
Many thanks.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bhavya Gandhi from Bajaj Alternate Investment Management Limited.
Please go ahead.
Bhavya Gandhi
Yeah. Hi.
Thanks for the opportunity. Just wanted to understand if there is any unsold inventory left, can we return that back to the OEMs?
How's the policy usually over there?
Yashovardhan Sinha
Hello? Actually, we have been telling in so many conferences and con calls.
Actually, we do not have to return those inventories to manufacturer. Usually, manufacturers they don't prefer taking back their inventories.
Rather they help us in liquidating that inventory. If there is any unsold inventory left with us, onus is on them to get it liquidated as quickly as possible, then only we go for new billings.
It is always OEMs are in prefer as far as unsold inventories are concerned.
Bhavya Gandhi
Okay. Got it.
Sir, would you like to guide for the store expansion targets for FY27 and '28?
Yashovardhan Sinha
We have been expanding over 30 by over 30 stores every year since last, I think, 3, 4, 5 years. We don't give a guidance because we are always ahead of the guidance.
We remain always ahead of the guidance. You can safely assume when somebody actually will ask us how many stores you want to open, then we only say the figure of 25 stores.
However, we have been delivering much much more than what we have been guiding. As we told, we just do not believe in expanding anywhere or anyhow.
It's not, in fact, our model. We want to expand in a very calibrated, in a cluster approach manner, where we try to capture the entire state.
This is going to be our policy.
Bhavya Gandhi
Got it, sir.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Yeah.
Bhavya Gandhi
Just one last thing on the EBITDA margin. If you are expanding in newer geographies, the OpEx will tend to be much higher.
Will it weigh on the overall EBITDA margins as we expand into newer geographies, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, and all those regions,
Yashovardhan Sinha
Madhya Pradesh? Madhya Pradesh and Chhattisgarh is the let next targeted.
Then again try to understand what I said that now that more of most more of most of our stores will be over 3 years old. In fact, will be bottom-heavy as far as matured stores are concerned.
Newer stores will be very few as far as in percentage in percentage terms of the overall entire store count. It is quite we can safely assume that going forward, our OpEx will not increase it will be commensurate with our overall expenses.
Bhavya Gandhi
Got it. Sir, out of the 30, 35 stores that we target, how much will be in the new states?
If you can just provide some numbers on that front.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Usually, we want to go to new state and try to create on a creeping cluster basis we want to capture the entire state. We don't stop our expansion there.
Wherever we get the opportunity, wherever we see new opportunity, we go there. It's not that we only expanding this year in Jharkhand or Madhya Pradesh.
UP is big state where we have to do a lot of things. As I told you in the earning call that our neighboring state has also now political uncertainties are over, it's a good place for us to go and start expanding.
Bhavya Gandhi
Got it. Thank you so much.
That's it from my end. Thank you so much for the detailed answer.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Manoj Gori from Equirus Securities.
Please go ahead.
Manoj Gori
Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity, sir.
Congratulations for strong recovery after the weak start of FY26. I have two questions.
One, if we look at, if I've understood correctly, contribution UP has been around 13% versus 14% last year. If I'm right, we have opened more
Operator
I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir, but your voice is breaking. We can't hear you clearly.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Manoj, you please repeat your question and be very clear.
Manoj Gori
Yeah.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Go ahead, Manoj.
Manoj Gori
Yeah. My point was if we look at the current year, we have opened more stores into Uttar Pradesh as compared to other geographies.
The revenue contribution has come down from 14% to 13% during FY26. Anything to read here, because ideally more store openings should result into more contribution from UP markets?
Yashovardhan Sinha
You've got two questions, this is your first question, right?
Manoj Gori
Yeah.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Second?
Manoj Gori
Second question is we have, obviously, the operating cash flows have been positive. How should we see in the coming years, whether we'll continue to stay OCF positive, and probably day-by-day our balance sheet will strengthen?
Any highlight, any inputs over there would be appreciated.
Yashovardhan Sinha
I'll tell you the first question first. Why it has come down, this is a different thing, that as if you'll go through our store opening in fact, schedule, then you will find the most of the stores have opened in last month or February or March of the last financial year in UP, most of the stores.
You are taking for the full year, but full year they have not worked. Most of the stores have worked very less, less than full year.
Still contribution from UP is 14% and not 13% as you are saying. It is 14%.
Manoj Gori
Okay. My bad, sir.
My bad, sir.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Still I would like to tell you that most of the stores are very new, and in fact, they've not run even 3 months of the full financial year. As you taking into account that what contribution they have made, you cannot strictly go by the numbers unless and until one full year goes by.
Second as far as balance sheet and cash flow is concerned, yes, this time our cash flow is quite healthy. We'll continue to invest the cash flow and as I've been telling that we don't require at the moment, we do not require any equity.
Our internal accruals [Foreign Language] Hello?
Manoj Gori
[Foreign Language]
Yashovardhan Sinha
Can you hear me, Manoj? Yes.
Manoj Gori
Yes, sir.
Yashovardhan Sinha
We'll continue to strengthen our balance sheet, no doubt about it. Most of the money will be invested in opening new stores and acquiring inventories at the right time.
Our internal accruals together with our borrowings, short-term borrowing, which is working capital borrowing, that will be enough for us to continue for at least we do not foresee raising any capital in this financial year, definitely not and not in near term.
Manoj Gori
Sir, lastly, just to continue on this, with better efficiencies and better scales from the new stores, your OCF to EBITDA should ideally keep improving from year-on-on Y-o-Y basis, right? Is that understanding correct?
Yashovardhan Sinha
No, I can't understand your question. OCF
Manoj Gori
What I meant was operating cash flow as a percentage of EBITDA from year-on should keep improving with higher scale from the newly opened stores. Should that we assume that it will keep improving from year-on?
Yashovardhan Sinha
No, that you should not take it as a benchmark, because operating cash flow will definitely depend on how we get our inventories build, how we take advantage of OEMs, and how do we manage our working capital. That will be very key to cash flows.
We won't like to comment on that. It will always depend on the betterment of the company finances.
Manoj Gori
Sure, sir. Got it, sir.
Sir, lastly, if you can throw some light how things are progressing in April, sorry if I am making you repeat this, how things are shaping up in April and probably how things are progressing in May, if you can highlight on that?
Yashovardhan Sinha
April has been very robust for us, and May is slightly colder at in the initial period. We are expecting very soon that it is going to become a normal summer season.
Manoj Gori
Sure, sir. Thank you, and wish you all the best, sir, for future quarters and years to come.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you, Manoj.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vaidik Bafna from Monarch Networth Capital Limited.
Please go ahead.
Vaidik Bafna
Good evening, sir, and congratulations on good set of numbers. Sir, can you just quantify as to suppose, for example, around more than 50% of our stores would be matured now and the balance would not be so matured.
How much margins would a mature store enjoy and how much do the unmature stores enjoy versus how many stores are there which are still yet to come profitable?
Yashovardhan Sinha
We have been giving guidance that most of our stores they get break even by 9 to between 9 to 12 months from their opening. It's very again, it will not be proper for me to give you the guidance or rather margins for mature stores and things which are because these are evolving process, Vaidik.
You try to understand. It's not one of it one thing has stabilized.
Even those branches which are matured, still lot of things have to come, are still to come. Similarly for stores which are not that mature, even there in so many geographies, some stores are doing still doing very well, some stores are now normal in growing in normal way.
These are all when you are talking about more than 200 stores, then it is all you cannot give a bifurcation of let us say margins what mature store is earning and what a non-mature store is earning. It all depends on how crowded that market is, how you are placed in that town.
These are all important thing in this format of business.
Vaidik Bafna
Sir. Sir, one last thing is that Can you
Yashovardhan Sinha
Vaidik, can you speak louder, please? Yes.
Vaidik Bafna
Yes. Sir, one last thing is that when can we expect our margins to reach back to 9% odd levels?
Is there any guidance on that?
Yashovardhan Sinha
I know I cannot give you a guidance on that, but our endeavor we always give a guidance of between 8 to 10%, 9 will 9% will be the mean factor of our margins. We strive to be at that type of margin, but again as I told you, we cannot compromise on certain sales, and we have to have those sales as well.
It is all controlled growth. Still we can give a fairly good guidance of 8 to 10% of margin.
Vaidik Bafna
Sir. Got it.
That's it from my side. Thank you so much.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to the time constraint, that was the last question for today.
I now hand the conference over to the management for the closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you, team.
Yashovardhan Sinha
Thank you, Danesh. Thank you, Devanshi and all people who are on the con call.
Thank you very much. See you soon again and take care of you all.
Thank you very much. Bye-bye.
Operator
Thank you so much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Axis Capital, that concludes this conference.
Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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