Vedanta Limited

Vedanta Limited

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Q4 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptApril 29, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Vedanta Limited's fourth quarter and full year 25-26 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

Participants connected on webcast link may change the quality settings to 1080p to watch the proceedings on best quality. I now hand the conference over to Mr.

Charanjit Singh, Group Head - Investor Relations, Vedanta. Thank you, and over to you.

Charanjit Singh

Thank you, Yash. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Vedanta's Limited Q4 and full year FY '26 earning call.

On behalf of Team Vedanta, I thank you all for joining us today. I hope you had an opportunity to look at the results releases that we have made.

Also, we have uploaded a presentation on our website under the Investor Presentations tab, outlining the medium-term outlook for the demerged Vedanta, covering all business segments, which is primarily Zinc India, Zinc International, copper, ferrochrome, and nickel. Kindly take a look at it if you haven't had the time to already see it.

On the call today, we have with us Miss Deshnee Naidoo, our Group CEO; Mr. Arun Misra, our Executive Director; Mr.

Ajay Goel, our Group CFO; Mr. Anup Agarwal, CFO - Aluminium; and Mr.

Yasmin Sahurti, COO - Oil and Gas. We will begin the call with a business update from Miss Naidoo, followed by an update on financial highlights by Mr.

Ajay Goel, and after that, we will open the lines for Q&A. With that, I now hand over the call to Miss Naidoo.

Over to you, Deshnee.

Deshnee Naidoo

Thank you, Charanjit. Good evening, good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us today.

This will be our final results call ahead of demerger. Starting next quarter, each of the demerge entities will conduct its own earnings calls as separate companies.

Before I reflect on the year's performance, I want to take a moment to speak about the tragic incident that unfolded at our Athena power plant in Chhattisgarh on the 14th of April. I want to begin by expressing my deepest condolences to the families of those who lost their lives in the tragic incident.

Across Vedanta, there has been an outpouring of grief and solidarity. I want to acknowledge the efforts by the teams on the ground.

Our thoughts remain firmly with the families who are grieving and with those who continue to receive medical care. The plant is run by our O&M contractor, NGSL.

The incident occurred in Unit 1 of the plant involving the boiler, which resulted in the release of pressurized hot water and steam, exposing various people working in that area. These workers were primarily from our contractor and subcontractor organizations who were present in the area carrying out operation and maintenance-related work.

We continue with our efforts to provide the best possible medical care and rehabilitation support to impacted families, including monetary compensation, accommodation, and employment opportunities. We are also operating a 24/7 call center to address any queries from affected families.

Extending care and support to all our employees at the site and beyond remains our top priority. We are working with all authorities to establish the facts in a transparent and comprehensive manner and will take all necessary steps to prevent any reoccurrence of such incidences.

I also want to take the opportunity to talk to you about the group performance on safety year-on-year. Our lost time injury frequency rate for the year improved 26% to 0.4, with our lost time injuries down 16%.

Our total recordable injury frequency rate decreased 3% to 1.3, and as part of the group safety improvement plans, we continue to embed and implement our CRM—that's your Critical Risk Management—drive incident, corrective, and preventive action closeout, and increase our leadership in the field. Now I want to turn to our FY '26 performance.

The year represented a clear inflection point for Vedanta as strategy and execution converged to deliver the best-ever financial performance in the company's history. We delivered record-high annual revenue of 1.74 lakh crores, EBITDA of 56,000 crore, PAT of over 9,300 crore, and our free cash flow pre-tax of 26,013 rupees crore.

Our return on capital employed, ROCE, for the year of 32%. All of this on the back of volume growth across various businesses and reduced costs driven through structural initiatives.

Our efforts on operational excellence transformed FY '26 into a year of new milestones where our aluminium business delivered its record alumina production of 2.9 million tons, up 48% year-on-year, and highest-ever aluminium production of 2.46 million tons, while also achieving its lowest annual hot metal cost in the last 5 years of $1,752 per ton. Our exit run rate of alumina production at Lanjigarh refinery was close to 4 million tons per annum.

Zinc India recorded its highest-ever annual mined metal production of 1.1 million tons with silver production of 622 metric tons, while simultaneously achieving the lowest cost of $959 per ton in the last 5 years. At Zinc International, mined metal production increased 27% year-on-year to 225,000 tons, led by the Gamsberg volumes rising 39% year-on-year, driven by higher throughput, stable ore delivery, and improved feed grades.

Power sales grew 30% year-on-year to 16.4 billion units with the start of operations at Athena and Meenakshi, alongside a 31% increase in our average NSR. The steel unit in Bokaro delivered 1.3 million tons of production, achieving its highest-ever annual billet, TMT, wire rod output of 1,062,000 tons, 525,000 tons, and 444,000 tons, respectively.

Through improvements in fuel mix and better raw material utilization, the business achieved an overall cost reduction of 10%. Our pig iron unit in Goa achieved its highest-ever pig iron production of 895,000 tons, representing a 10% increase year-on-year.

Our iron ore production grew 5% year-on-year to 6.2 million tons, while Iron Ore Goa achieved a 62% year-on-year growth, supported by production ramp-up initiatives and delivering an 18% reduction in operating cost. Our ferrochrome business delivered a strong turnaround with record ferrochrome production of 101,000 tons, up 21% year-on-year.

The restart of the Kalrangi mine enabled availability of high-grade captive ore during the year, thereby materially reducing our cost by 19% compared to FY '25. At the copper business, operational delivery remained strong, with Silvassa and Fujairah plants together delivering copper rod production of 282,000 tons, 10% year-on-year jump.

Silvassa recorded record annual cathode production of 170,000 tons, up 15%, resulting from debottlenecking, operational efficiency, diversification of raw material resources. I'm now going to turn to capital.

FY '26 recorded not only new milestones on operational metrics, but also on capex execution. During the year, we deployed 15,000 crore of growth capital in line with guidance, establishing a new benchmark in Vedanta's journey on project execution, as the year marked successful commissioning of various multi-year projects, setting us up on a trajectory of multi-year growth.

Some of the key growth projects completed are the expansion of alumina refinery at Lanjigarh of 5 million tons per annum; commissioning of the new 435,000-ton smelter at Korba, with production ramp-up starting from the current quarter; commissioning of the 250,000-ton and 210,000-tons per annum of new billet lines at Jharsuguda and BALCO, respectively; start of the 106,000-ton Debari roaster, that's Roaster 6, at Hindustan Zinc; successful debottlenecking at Hindustan Zinc's Chanderiya and Dariba, resulting in an incremental capacity of 21,000 tons per annum; additionally, the 1.3 gigawatts at Athena and Meenakshi. Other facilities commissioned during the year include the wagon tippler facility at Lanjigarh and the crusher at Gamsberg Phase 2.

As we move into FY '27, the pipeline of projects commissioning remains strong. The [Kuraloi?]

coal mine and Sijimali bauxite mines are awaiting for their EC, which will pave the path for starting operations through mines. Gamsberg Phase 2 is around 94% complete, whilst our fertilizer project in Zinc India has already booked around 75% of total capital.

At ESL, plant capacity doubling to 3.5 million tons will take around 6 months once we receive the EC. All equipment required for the expansion is already in stores and at the project site.

Our DI plant in Goa is over 60% complete as of March '26 end. This capex is primarily financed through internal accruals, our free cash flow generation pre-capex of around 26,000 crore, reflecting this strong operational performance.

Vedanta emerged as the second-highest wealth creator amongst the Nifty 100 companies in FY '26. Just a quick update on critical mineral licenses.

As at FY '26 close, we had won bids for composite licenses on 10 blocks, which include those of gold as well as manganese, whilst the remaining 8 blocks are for critical minerals. In 3 of these blocks, the exploration is at an advanced stage, and we are expecting to be in the decision-making position in a year from now.

On ESG, during the year, we continue to make meaningful progress on driving renewable energy consumption across all operations, reaching 3.97 billion units in FY '26, up 52% year-on-year, thereby resulting in a GHG intensity reduction from 6.02 to 5.43 tons of CO2 equivalent per ton of product. With inclusive growth central to Vedanta's purpose, we spent over 420 crores in FY '26 on various CSR initiatives, impacting over 6.9 million people through our various programs in education, healthcare, livelihoods, women empowerment, and community infrastructure.

In closing, as we mark our final reporting year ahead of demerger, Vedanta delivered a truly landmark performance, best in the company's history. The structural improvements made during the year, together with the disciplined capital execution, has resulted in a record level of cash flow generation, which is well reflected in credit upgrades from various rating agencies at the group level.

Backed by a tier-1 asset portfolio, record operational and financial performance in FY '26, we enter FY '27 as a more agile, streamlined, and future-ready organization. With over 5 decades of experience in manufacturing and metals, Vedanta is leveraging its deep technical expertise to expand into high-potential minerals of future and transition itself for the future.

Vedanta 2.0 is a strategic transformation designed to align the company's core strengths with India's evolving priorities in energy transition, advancing manufacturing, and clean technologies. As part of this transformation, we are positioning ourselves to meet India's rising need for critical minerals, powering the growth of AI, data infrastructure, and advanced technologies.

The demerger is now at its final stage. The effective and record date is set for May 1st.

In the next week, we will be filing with the exchanges for listing approvals. The shares of the resulting companies are expected to list and commence trading by mid-June.

This marks a new chapter defined by simpler structures, sharper accountability, and focused platforms to drive growth and value creation. This foundational reset is aimed at sustainable growth over the coming decades.

With that, I now hand over to Ajay to walk us through the financial performance for the year. Ajay.

Ajay Goel

Thank you. Good evening, everyone.

We ended the fiscal year FY '26 on a high note, with Q4 marking a pivotal moment for Vedanta. We delivered record financials, our strongest ever, both for the quarter and for the full year.

This also sets the stage for our next growth chapter through Vedanta's demerger. On macro side, despite Middle East volatility, better pricing, currency depreciation, and supply dynamics played to our advantage.

We moved quickly to protect supply chains, control cost, and reinforce our balance sheet, all that while staying focused on growth. Starting with demerger, as earlier communicated last week, our board approved Vedanta's demerger effective from 1st May 2026.

This will entail creation of 5 independent, sector-specific pure play companies, allowing each company to chart out their own growth trajectory and attract respective thematic investors. We have set 1st May as a record date for demerger.

Shareholders holding 1 share of Vedanta as on 29th April, today, will receive 4 additional shares of the resulting companies. We are targeting listing and commencement of trading of these shares by Q1 FY '27.

The demerger has been architected with precision on capital structure, aligning debt with earning strength and growth stage of each resulting companies. Vedanta Oil and Gas and Iron Steel will be close to zero net debt businesses.

Other 3 businesses net debt-to-EBITDA ratios will be in line with their debt serving capabilities. At Vedanta group level, pre-demerger, our leverage stands at 0.95x, reflecting resilient EBITDA and disciplined financial structuring.

For the Q4 and FY '26 results, following NCLT approvals, we have followed the demerger accounting as per Indian accounting regulations, Ind AS 105. For clarity and like-to-like comparison, our results discussions are for the combined operations, which is pre-demerger and includes all 5 businesses.

Moving very briefly to performance, we recorded all-time highs in all 3 matrices, they being revenue, EBITDA, and PAT, both for Q4 as well as for the full fiscal. Our quarterly revenue grew 29% YoY to 51,524 crores, supported by positive prices, exchange rate, and a sustained growth across our core businesses.

Our quarterly EBITDA grew 59% YoY to 18,447 crores with EBITDA margin expanding sharply, up by 915 bps YoY to 44%, again, our best ever. Finally, the PAT grew by 89% YoY to 9,352-odd crores.

For the full year, we delivered, as earlier guided, our best annual results ever. Revenue growing 15% YoY to 1.74 lakh crores, EBITDA up 29% to 55,976 crores, and finally, PAT at 25,096 crores, marking a jump of 22% YoY.

Let us take a brief look on Vedanta as a portfolio, and key businesses continue to deliver strong annual performance. Aluminium EBITDA for the year, 25,502 crores, up 43% YoY with a 38% margin, driven again by positive prices, record production, and lower COP, achieving a 5-year low of $1,752 per ton, down 5% YoY.

Zinc India EBITDA, 22,056 crores, up 27% YoY with best-in-class margin of 56%, driven by record mined metal, positive pricing, and COP dropping to $959 per ton, again, lowest since 5 years, down 9% YoY. The strength of our diversified business portfolio, coupled with momentum in our growth businesses across power, oil and gas, and iron steel, continued to drive Vedanta on a strong upward trajectory.

These businesses are the growth engines and will decisively shape Vedanta's next phase of value creation. I'll move on briefly to allocation of capital and investors' returns.

We remained focused on disciplined, value-accretive growth. In FY '26, we invested 14,918 crores on growth capexes in strategic projects across aluminium, zinc, oil and gas, and power.

As these projects come on stream, they will drive higher volumes, margins, and earning visibility across cycles. In Q4 FY '26, we deleveraged Vedanta India's balance sheet by 7,370 crores.

For the full year at VRL group level, in dollar terms, we have deleveraged about $1.5 billion, including reduction of short-term facilities such as buyers' and suppliers' credit and export advances. We also rewarded our shareholders with a handsome dividend of Rs 34 per share.

Vedanta has been amongst top 3 wealth creators in Nifty 100 companies, delivering a TSR of almost 50%, which is 2.1 times over Nifty Metal Index. Notably, the FIIs ownership of Vedanta has rose from around 11% to 14% last year, a clear vote of confidence from investors even in this current tumultuous market conditions.

Balance sheet, our balance sheet continues to strengthen in a sustained and visible manner. As we have earlier guided, our leverage ratio has been brought down to under 1x, 0.95, from 1.22 last year same time.

We have brought down VDL's borrowing cost below 9% at about 8.9 as we close the fiscal, and 16% reduction in financing cost, which is more than Rs 1,563-odd crores, with further reduction in the borrowing cost in sight in near future. On credit rating, both CRISIL and ICRA has reaffirmed Vedanta's rating as AA with watch developing.

In addition, Fitch Rating has augmented VRL's rating to BB-, underscoring confidence in our improved balance sheet, cash flow visibility, and strategic direction. In conclusion, FY '26 marked a clear defining year for Vedanta, with strong performance and notable advancements across strategy focus areas.

The upcoming demerger marks Vedanta's transition into a future new phase of growth and value unlocking into a powerhouse of critical minerals, energy transition, and technology. Thank you, and over to operator for Q&As.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.

Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

We'll take our first question from the line of Indrajit Agarwal from CLSA. Please go ahead.

Indrajit Agarwal

Hi. Thanks for the opportunity.

I have two questions for Ajay. First, as we split the group into five entities or after the demerger, how would the dividend policy look like for each of the entities?

Operator

Indrajit, can you please self-mute? There's a lot of disturbance on your line.

Thank you.

Indrajit Agarwal

After the demerger, how would the dividend policies look like for each of the entities?

Ajay Goel

Hello, Indrajit. That is one change that will entail post-demerger.

In that case, five companies' board, ran independently, will be free to design their own policies. In case of Vedanta Limited, today the board has approved its revised policy on dividend.

Basically, there'll be two changes. Currently, Vedanta's policy on dividend is more prescriptive.

It will become more descriptive. From rule-based, it becomes principle-based.

For example, right now, there is a requirement to pay at least 30% profit as dividend. Going forward, board will have the flexibility, they can pay 30% or the amount as they deem fit in future.

Same way, the zinc dividend, we have to pass on within 6 months. Going forward, Vedanta board, as in the new Vedanta continuing, will have the flexibility of this money up-streaming in near future.

In summary, five companies will have different policies, but overall, they'll be aligned with the current policy thematically overall.

Indrajit Agarwal

The mandate of up-streaming the dividend of Hindustan Zinc goes away with the new policy. Is that correct?

Ajay Goel

Correct, and in that case, the Vedanta Limited board will have the flexibility of passing it on or not passing it on within the timeframe they deem fit looking at multiple factors for the company.

Indrajit Agarwal

Sure. My second question related to it is now that we still have about $4.7 billion of debt at VRL, what are the modes of addressing that debt?

Earlier it used to be brand fees plus dividend. Is selling stake in one or more entities an option that we are considering, or it still remains at dividend and brand fees?

Ajay Goel

Right. Maybe I'll start with the first, Indrajit, the current year requirement, FY '27.

At Vedanta Resources, the need for the loan in FY '27 is almost 0.3 billion. Additionally, as we know, an ICL is due as well, which is VRL to VDL.

Total combined half a billion is a requirement for the principal amount. The interest will be something similar.

It is in fact shy of half a billion. We need a billion at Vedanta Resources.

In terms of source of money, the brand fee is more or less same, it is 400, and the balance 600 receipt means paying out almost 1 to $1.1 billion from Vedanta India's side, assuming the half money goes to minorities. With 4% to 5% dividend and the routine brand fee, VRL can be managed.

That also means almost half a billion or 0.6 billion will be deleveraging organically. Now as we demerge all the five companies, additionally will have the optionality of a differentiated capital structure, and in that case, many anchor investors, domestically and globally, are very keen to come in the cap table, and that will be additional avenue for deleveraging.

Indrajit Agarwal

Sure. Thank you.

That's all from my side.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the line of Amit Lahoti from Aditya Birla Capital.

Please go ahead.

Amit Lahoti

Thanks for the opportunity. My questions are on Zinc International and copper segments.

The first one on Zinc International, where are we on this capacity expansion at Gamsberg, and by when do we expect to achieve full ramp-up? Then second, on copper, it has not been a profitable unit for us so far, and given that treatment charges continue to be negative, how are we thinking about this segment from here on?

Deshnee Naidoo

Thank you, Amit. I'll take the VZI question, and I'll give Ajay the question on copper.

On VZI, the Gamsberg project is 94% complete, and this is now the doubling of our run-of-mine from 4 million to 8 million tons, and we're looking at a capacity from the current around 220,000 to 240,000 tons, another 220,000. All in all, about 450,000 tons.

The team is anticipating to commission in the next quarter and to have the plant ramped up for the rest of the year, okay, which is very typical if I look at other industry curves, McNulty curves. A ramp-up for a plant of this size should be anywhere between 12 to 18 months.

15 months would be a best-in-class ramp-up. That's how we should look at it.

Within the year, you'll see substantial ramp-up from Phase 2 because it's 94% complete, but the better part of this year will be to ramp up Phase 2 after the commissioning in this current quarter. I hope that explains it.

Ajay, maybe you want to take the copper question in terms of profitability.

Charanjit Singh

Before Ajay starts, Amit, you would have seen that we have released a presentation which is on the Vedanta's website, and if you download that, you can see the trajectory for Gamsberg Phase 3, including our proposal to build a smelter also. We have given the full details in terms of the ramp-up beyond 500 also, which is a medium-term outlook spanning next 2 to 3 years is completely detailed out.

Handing over to you, Ajay, for the copper.

Ajay Goel

Yeah. This copper within the Vedanta portfolio, as we know, is a trading business practically.

Over the last couple of years, the margin has been wafer-thin. There's a one change, if I may start with the brand fee.

Right now, the entire brand fee is for the current Vedanta at about 3%. Now as we demerge, we have also done a revised benchmarking in an unbundled fashion, each of the new companies' benchmarking is different.

In summary, the 3% rate continues, and the only change that will be done post-demerger is in the copper brand fee. The brand fee for copper from the current 3% will go down to 0.75%, and that alone from India's viewpoint means higher EBITDA by 2.25%.

There are various activities looking at the pricing environment, we do foresee the margin on the copper business going from roughly 1% right now going to at least 5% in FY '27.

Operator

Amit, does that answer your question? Yes,

Amit Lahoti

sure. That helped.

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you.

Amit Lahoti

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Sumangal Nevatia from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.

Sumangal Nevatia

Yeah. Good evening.

Thanks. First question is on VRL in FY '26.

Despite the brand fee and the dividend, if you see net debt has just reduced by 200-odd million dollars. Could you broadly share what were the cash outflow heads there for FY '26?

Ajay Goel

In FY '26, of course you're right, dividend and the brand fee is almost $1.1 billion. There is a funding for KCM last fiscal, Sumangal.

It's almost $330 million, and hence, that is one reason. Secondly, the entire inter-corporate loan 2 220-odd million has been paid from VRL to VDL.

In that case, 5.3 has become 5.2 in the last fiscal. It's mostly the funding for the KCM.

Sumangal Nevatia

Okay. We had plans for listing of KCM.

Where are we in terms of that, any guidance?

Ajay Goel

Deshnee, you want to

Deshnee Naidoo

take? Yes.

We are in the process of having filed our S-1 with the SEC. We're currently in the third round of comments, but I'm sure you would all appreciate that we are in a quiet period in that regard, and as soon as we're able to come into the public, we'll actually give you an update on the overall process.

We are progressing in terms of the S-1 filing.

Sumangal Nevatia

Got it. My second question is on the brand fee.

If you could just call out what was the brand fee paid by copper entity in FY '26. What's the delta we're looking at?

Now once we've relooked, till what year is the brand fee at 3% fixed for other entities?

Ajay Goel

Maybe, Sumangal, after the call, we'll have the numbers shared with you, but on a broad basis, about $3.1, $3.2 billion is a copper revenue, and on that last year, the number has been 3% brand fee. Now that number will go down to a 0.75%.

The impact of the brand fee on copper is about $65 million in FY '26. FY '27, lower amount.

Now the overall brand fee looking at the volume increase and the better pricing will be something similar. From Vedanta India's viewpoint, all the five companies combined brand fee FY '27 remains similar to last year.

The copper impact is mitigated by volume and the pricing.

Sumangal Nevatia

Okay. That's useful, Ajay.

Till which year is the rate freezed as per the agreement?

Ajay Goel

The rates are typically, if you look at last 9-odd years, in 2017, the brand fee got commissioned. We look at revised benchmarking every 3 years.

It is for next 3 years.

Sumangal Nevatia

Okay. Till FY '29, it is freezed.

Ajay Goel

That's correct.

Sumangal Nevatia

Okay. Understood.

I have one question with respect to Zinc International. Now we are guiding for EBITDA increasing from $100 million to eventually $450 million in FY '28 in the presentation.

In the last many years, we've missed and delayed the guidance for Gamsberg Phase 2. Just want to understand last 1 or 2 years, what has been the key reasons behind the delay and how confident are we of commissioning it and then starting to ramp up in the second half of the current year?

Yeah.

Deshnee Naidoo

Thank you so much for the question, Sumangal. I answered partly, I think when Amit asked the question earlier.

Today, the project is 94% complete. We're very confident about the ramp-up plan and commissioning in this quarter and ramp-up for the rest of the year.

In terms of the reasons for the delays, twofold. Firstly, to produce 8 million tons of run-of-mine, given the stripping ratio of 3 to 4 at this moment, we've had a lot to do on catching up of the waste stripping at the Gamsberg open pit, and that took the better part of the last 2 2 years to actually catch up.

This was almost 3 years of delayed in stripping, waste stripping. That is now adequately caught up.

In fact, very happy to say that even for the current commissioning and ramp-up, we are sitting with a healthy stockpile in front of the plant. We've also had some delays on the ground.

Believe it or not, it's something I think we as an industry keep talking around, is skills needed for certain types of work, especially in projects. In South Africa, capital has dried up.

In fact, we are one of the few companies that are actually building capital projects today despite it being such a large mining geography, and we have had certain skill sets that have been short and the team has felt it hard even through our business partner onshore for finding. That's created some of the delays on specialized work like piping, instrumentation, etc.

Again, I think a lot of time has gone in the last 6 months almost resetting the project to make sure that we can deliver it on time on the new timelines and making sure that I keep guiding the team that whilst we might not have built this project as we should, it's still very competitive in terms of capital intensity, and now we have to get this plant to a dream start, which I indicated earlier, should be a 12 to 15-month type of ramp-up for a plant of this size. I hope that gives you a good sense of what has happened, why the misses, and why we are confident now, given the status of both mining as well as the project, that we will deliver this year's ramp-up.

You saw last year's numbers, right? From the previous year, the Gamsberg ramp-up in itself, because of the waste stripping that I just mentioned, was almost 40% up year-on-year.

Sumangal Nevatia

That's very elaborate, and thanks. I just have one more question.

Can I ask?

Ajay Goel

Go ahead, Sumangal.

Sumangal Nevatia

Okay. One is the resultant entity has still a billion dollars of debt.

How are we going to service the debt? Will it be largely through the dividends from Hindustan Zinc, and maybe the leftover is upstreamed as dividends?

Second, the aluminium entity is on the numbers throwing very strong cash flows. Generally, what's our preference there, in terms of deleveraging and payout?

If you could just share some thoughts on capital allocation at the aluminium entity.

Ajay Goel

Maybe I'll start first with the five companies. In fact, if you look at, Sumangal, in the IR pack, there's a page which covers all the five companies in unbundled form, what will be net debt-to-EBITDA, all of them.

If you look at overall Vedanta right now, $5.5 billion net debt and debt-to-EBITDA almost 0.95. Now pre-demerger, we have made sure that each of the entities in terms of their debt and the cash flow, they are in harmony.

Even before demerger on 1st of May, Vedanta Oil and Gas will have nil debt, it will be debt-free company. Vedanta Iron and Steel will be close to net debt.

It will have no debt more than $0.2 billion. That leaves aluminium, debt of almost $3.5 billion, and in aluminium, debt-to-EBITDA ratio almost 1.3.

As you rightly pointed out, given their cash flows, that will not be a challenge. That leaves Vedanta Power.

There most of the debt in fact is structured in the long term with the PFC and the RECs, and there the debt maturities are in fact truly long term, 7 to 10 years. Vedanta Limited's debt will be almost a billion, and there debt-to-EBITDA will be 0.4 times.

A combination of profitability at Vedanta Limited through FACOR, through Zinc International, and the copper, debt can be serviced. Additionally, Zinc India dividend remains additional optionality.

In summary, we don't foresee a challenge looking at the current pricing environment, our work on volume, cost, and EP of serving debt of all the five companies.

Sumangal Nevatia

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Ritesh Shah from Investec. Please go ahead.

Ritesh Shah

Yeah. Hi, sir.

Congratulations for good set of numbers and the demerger sailing through. Wonderful job.

I have five bucket of questions. First is starting with Saudi Arabia.

I see there's a $2 billion of capex indicated over there. I also see as a EBITDA profile broadly from 90 million FY '27 to around 200 million FY '29.

Just wanted to understand how this would be funded, that's one. If you can provide a split year-wise, that would be great.

The funding of this capex, and basically how should we read into the economics of I see there's a rod mill, I see there's a smelter, commissioning timelines are not very far, and there's an exciting prospect of the mine as well. I think mine-related capex has not been mentioned over here.

If you could just help us understand the economics of how to fund this $2 billion, the timeline, and the underlying economics, that's the first bucket of questions.

Deshnee Naidoo

Maybe I can give a quick overview of what we are doing in the kingdom, and then, Ajay, we can talk high-level about the funding as it relates to the Vedanta Remco go-forward. As you rightly mentioned, Ritesh, we have the rod mill plant.

This is a $30 million plant, capacity of about 200,000 tons, and this is something that we were contemplating for a while. Good on Puneet and the team for actually putting this I think they started last year, broke ground in October last year, and that plant will be ready in September this year.

From an economics point of view, right, it's all about supply demand, as we've just discussed on the copper business side, but this plant will have about a margin of 5%. Then you touched on the mining block that we recently acquired, and that's in Jabal Sayid.

It's still very nascent stages. We're still doing the exploration there.

Just given some of the early indications of the grades, etc., that we see both on copper as well as in gold, relatively attractive grades of about 1.5%, I think on the copper side, which should be maybe north of maybe 2%, which makes it more exciting, and gold of about 3 grams per ton. Can just update on the grades.

The exploration is being supported by Hind Metal, maybe Arun can also help us with the update. The copper smelter project is still the project that we indicated almost 18 months ago now in terms of the MoU we have with the kingdom.

We continue to work with them. The package of incentives that we want to make the project work is still under discussions in the kingdom, we haven't actually taken a project decision as of now, okay.

Given what I've just said on some of the incentivization, of course the $31 million is largely funded from cash that the copper business, including Fujairah Gold, is generating, will actually be funded at that level. The bigger project will actually be funded by some of the incentives that we likely to get from the government as we continue these discussions.

Ajay, anything to add?

Ajay Goel

Yes, briefly, Ritesh. If you look at the kingdom has released document couple of years ago, and they want to diversify beyond traditional hydrocarbon oil and gas.

In that case, metals and mining is a big priority. It also entails that the kingdom, KSA, will also provide land, power, and multiple subsidies, including in terms of funding and lower cost of funding.

What we have agreed with the local government, it is still being frozen, the entire funding will be happening in the ratio of 75:25, debt-to-equity. So 25% will be Vedanta contribution as equity.

75% will be the funding locally at about 2, 2.5% cost of funding. This 25% funding of the amount you mentioned will be overall several years, and that will be managed through Vedanta Limited free cash flows.

Ritesh Shah

This helps. My second question was on Zinc International, again, a very big capex number, $4 billion.

The EBITDA is moving from $300 million indicated FY '27 to around $500 million. How should we read into the funding of this capex?

Again, it's not a asset which is at least I understand or appreciate it well. How should we look at the underlying economics of the mine concentrator and the smelter over here?

That's the second bucket of questions. The third and fourth will be quick.

Yeah. Yeah.

Deshnee Naidoo

The good news about Zinc International, after this year, it'll be a self-generating cash unit, right? Although it does have some debt now on the current project that is executed, the next phase of growth, which is not approved, right, which is basically we've given you guidelines of how to look at the growth, comes from the Gamsberg underground.

Gamsberg underground, I think we have given you some updates on the R&R right now. It's almost, and I think Arun can elaborate because he knows the asset well, almost as large from an R&R point of view as Hindustan Zinc, almost 16 million tons of metal there.

The underground material always had a higher grade than actually the open pit, today's about 7%, and the reason for that, and the reason why we took the decision to go open pit initially all those 5, 6 years ago, is because it was lower capital intensity to go open pit then, start small, increase the mine, and then consider the underground opportunities. The capital that you saw will be slightly more because of the underground, but the opportunity we have, if we phase this out well, is to actually use the current cash that will be generated by the business to support the next phase of growth, as we have the 2 million ton target, Arun calls it the 2x project.

We do have a 1 million ton goal to take the current will be around 450,000 tons, 500, if you consider some of the other projects that we are considering as part of the deck that you're looking at in Namibia, gets us to another 500,000-ton expansion in the Gamsberg, which we're calling Phase 3, because Phase 1 and 2 is currently in execution, Phase 3 will be the new project. I think that's how you should look at it.

This becomes a very different business, right? You no longer should be looking to fund all of the capital.

It'll self-generate a lot of this cash going forward. These kinds of zinc prices, over $3,000 per ton, I think we're quite excited about what that geography can unlock for us.

As Charanjit mentioned earlier, when you start getting into these kinds of capacities, right, you cannot be shipping concentrate of this kind of volume, because almost double the volume you would need to ship. We are looking at putting in a smelter.

It's a project I looked at way back then when I was in South Africa for the business, but what makes it more attractive today, South Africa has some 5 gigawatts of power that's surplus today versus 5 years ago, and the government is very keen to support businesses like us that are continue to spend capital in the country to incentivize us to make a smelter complex work together with an SEZ. That's what the team is looking at as part of that conceptual study that you saw in the deck.

Ritesh Shah

That helps, Deshnee. Is it possible to break this $4 billion by years, the way you explained the capital structure, what will be the self-generated cash flow, which would actually fund it?

It will just help us appreciate the cash flow profile because the capex number is quite huge over here.

Charanjit Singh

Ritesh, happy to give the details post the call, year-on-year capex what we are doing, and also the funding and the sources of fund for the capex.

Ritesh Shah

Sure. Quickly, third question, power assets, we had an unfortunate incident.

Are there any timelines on the resumption of that particular unit? Are we looking at 3 months, 6 months, any particular timeline?

Fourth is critical minerals. You have given a beautiful slide.

There are multiple assets over there. How should we understand the option value over here?

Thank you so much.

Deshnee Naidoo

I think I'll start with the question on power, and then hand over to Arun for the critical minerals. Yes, we are incredibly saddened by our incident at Athena, and I gave you a very elaborate update on everything that we're doing on the ground.

Really want to recognize again the efforts by the teams there. In terms of restart, I think we cannot commit to any timeline at this stage.

What we can tell you is that we've only just recently, a couple of days ago, been actually given access back into the site to commence our full assessment work to look at the activities, rectification, restoring activities on the site. Once our team is on the ground for another few weeks, and we have an expert team that supports their recommendations, we will then come back into the market in terms of the likely timelines for recommencement, both on the Unit 1, which is the unit in question, as well as on the Unit 2 project that was ongoing as well.

Arun.

Arun Misra

Deshnee, let me add on the critical mineral. Out of the seven critical mineral blocks with Vedanta, if you look at the timeline of exploration, three blocks we hope to finish exploration by 2028.

Normally, we do mine planning one year ahead of finishing of exploration, somewhere in 2027. That means if we add 36 months of putting up projects of mining and smelting, we should look at somewhere around 2030 adding three more metals to the bottom line of Vedanta.

Thank you so much. All the very best.

Thank you.

Operator

Ritesh, does that answer your Thank you. Next question is from the line of Pallav Agarwal from Antique Stock Broking.

Please go ahead.

Pallav Agarwal

Good evening, and congratulations on the demerger. First question was on the deleveraging during the quarter.

Is part of the Hindustan Zinc stake sale proceeds also included in this deleveraging?

Ajay Goel

Yes, that's right, Pallav. So 7,370 crore is a deleveraging in the fourth quarter.

It includes every aspect, both source and application. Be it paying a dividend in the previous quarter or divesting 1.5% zinc.

Yes, answer is yes.

Pallav Agarwal

Basically I think the cash flow from operations of I think 14,000 crores, is that part that includes the stake sale as well?

Ajay Goel

No, that is additional. So 14,000, you're right, is operating cash flows.

The working capital is next building block, where the number of days is the right metric. From 77 days Q3, it has gone down to almost 70 days.

Then we invested almost 5.7 thousand crores in terms of capexes, growth and sustaining. We also paid last quarter a dividend, that's an outflow.

Zinc stake sale, 3,277 crore, is additional. It's about 1.1%.

The 14,000 crores do not include zinc stake sale, it's additional. There is a page, Pallav, in the IR deck on the entire cash bridge for the fourth quarter, which covers all this blocks.

Pallav Agarwal

Sure, okay. I'll take a look at that.

Also, I think you all have given a very detailed breakup of the net debt pre and post-merger. Just wanted to check in the entity-wise net cash, some of the entities like Bloom Fountain.

Which entity would the debt of that go to?

Arun Misra

Pallav, it's already taken into consideration when we have given the net debt position of respective entity. It's already factored in.

Pallav Agarwal

Sorry. Bloom Fountain is a holding company or which particular company of the demerged entity will this debt go to?

Ajay Goel

Bloom Fountain is a part of Iron and Steel. Pallav, if you look at the IR deck, there is a slide which is quite elaborate.

It covers the current Vedanta, where the net debt net of cash is about $5.5 billion and the leverage 0.95. If you unbundle the current Vedanta, monolithic, into five companies, it talks about each of the five companies.

There, Iron and Steel and Oil and Gas are zero or almost net zero debt companies. Vedanta Power, leverage will be 4.7 times.

Vedanta Limited will have a billion dollar debt. Significant portion of debt goes to Vedanta Aluminium.

Out of 5.5, 3.5 goes to Vedanta Aluminium. Looking at the EBITDA of that business, their leverage will still 1.3.

In summary, even before demerger, all the five companies' balance sheet are that way architected, where their assets and the cash flow will be sufficient to service debt post-demerger.

Pallav Agarwal

Sure, okay. Okay.

Thank you for this. Lastly, on the guidance, FY '27 guidance, Athena PLF I think there's nothing over there, is it because of the accident that's happened?

Arun Misra

Yes, Pallav, as Deshnee explained, that we are taking a stock of the situation, and once we do that in the coming weeks, we'll come back to the market to disclose the start or the restart, and thereafter we will be in position to give the details from a PLF perspective.

Pallav Agarwal

The existing PPAs that we've signed, is there any penalty for not supplying or something?

Arun Misra

We have insurance in place to cover us for any gaps or losses which are there.

Pallav Agarwal

Sure. Yeah.

Thank you so much.

Deshnee Naidoo

Again, I think just give us time to assess the full situation and come back to the market with a comprehensive update as opposed to a piecemeal update that we can provide you with today.

Operator

Thank you.

Pallav Agarwal

Sure.

Operator

Next question is from the line of Kunal Kothari from Nuwama Wealth Management. Please go ahead.

Kunal, your line is unmuted. Please go ahead with your question.

Arun Misra

Yash, you can move to the next.

Hi. Good

Operator

Yes, Kunal, please go ahead.

Can I go ahead?

Operator

Yes.

Hi. Ashish here.

Thank you for the opportunity, and many congratulations for the great set of numbers and finally demerger happening. Commendable.

In this, I'm trying to ask one simple question that going ahead because now we have demerged into different entities, obviously every entity has a different scope. In future, if we want to go for any acquisition, then that acquisition will be related to that particular segment only, or we can do something which can club another business, like, for example, Vedanta Aluminium.

Any further acquisition will be only related to aluminium business only, or it can be sometimes, no, other zinc minerals or something else also? Because we have seen earlier also that other business clubbed into different one.

Just to make it sure that any further acquisition only in a different, particular commodities. Deshnee, you want to take?

Deshnee Naidoo

I think from an overall M&A, as we've guided the market before, our chairman is still very involved in all M&A across the company. Going forward, whilst it'll be very clear what the focus of the individual businesses are, anything outside of the portfolio will still happen at a Holdco level, and Holdco will be set up to make sure there is some visibility of capital allocation across all five businesses, but also with its own M&A team to start looking at some of these opportunities.

If it makes more sense, synergies-wise, to go into one of the five companies, it would. If not, as you've seen our chairman from his previous track record, we absolutely have other companies in the businesses or set up new companies.

That will still be very much the case. The CEOs and their leadership team of the respective companies will be mandated to continue to grow organically in the first instance, as you know every business has got their own 2x, 3x type growth story, and any M&A, depending on the size, shape, that's very, very in line with the company strategy will happen at the company level.

Anything else above would happen at a Holdco level together with the chairman.

Thanks. That's very clear.

Second is

Deshnee Naidoo

on

aluminium operations only.

Deshnee Naidoo

Please go

Sorry, should I go ahead?

Deshnee Naidoo

No, because we initially had the call from Kunal, and then you came on. Just tell us where you are from, please.

I am from Nuvama only.

Deshnee Naidoo

Okay. All good.

On aluminium operations, now we have seen consistent delay in mines like bauxite, coal mines, and every time we get a new deadline on that. Just wondering where we are on that process in terms of approval.

Secondly, in terms of aluminium smelter also, when we are going to fully commission it? Lastly, when can we start seeing lower alumina cost of production, which will ultimately lead to lower aluminium production?

Thank you.

Deshnee Naidoo

Yes. Thank you.

I'm going to hand over to Anup.

Anup Agarwal

Ashish, first let me answer the alumina piece what you said. Ashish, if you recall, no, even in the last earnings call, I had said that probably we will see a $50 reduction as we go into the quarter 1.

Okay. The another thing what I had mentioned was a constant LME.

If you ask me, probably by quarter 2, we should see alumina cost hovering around $750. It has two parts to it.

One, we should also appreciate the Middle East impact that we've had on some of the raw materials like furnace oil and caustic. Had it not been there, probably we would have seen a cost of around 710, 715.

As of now, based on whatever cost we are seeing, we expect the cost to be around broadly 740, 750 in the quarter 2 of financial year '27. Probably a $25 $20, $25 reduction from what is the quarter 4 cost.

That is where we are as of now. If we were to remove the Middle East cost implication, probably 700, 710 with probably 80%, 85% of the captive alumina.

Ashish, that is where we are. As we go into quarter 2, quarter 3, we expect the cost to be closer to 710, 720, 725.

Ashish, hopefully I have answered that question. Shall I move to the

Then Yeah. For aluminium cost of production then?

Anup Agarwal

See, aluminium cost of production, no, again, if you have seen the guidance, we are guiding 1650, 1700. Okay.

Now if I were to just bifurcate it into say H1, what the H1 cost will be, maybe compared to quarter 4, you can expect flatish to 1% lower because of some of the impact of the raw material that we are seeing, I mentioned some of the raw material on the aluminium side, some of the carbon cost. For that, the yearly guidance remains 1650, 1700, but H1 should be probably flat to 1% lower compared to quarter 4.

Okay.

Anup Agarwal

Now coming to BALCO expansion, see, 70 of the total 304 pots that we are putting in, okay, we've commissioned by March, okay. The delay was basically through partner substitution and resource augmentation, we've covered in the last couple of calls.

Now if I were to give you a way forward as we go along, no, quarter 1, quarter 2, quarter 3, quarter 4, on a run rate basis, broadly we will be doing around 105 kt a quarter. Quarter 1 should be 25, quarter 2 ramped up to 50, quarter 3 75, and as we go into the quarter 4, it will be 100%.

Ashish.

Deshnee Naidoo

I think, Anup, if I'm not mistaken, Ashish asked about the refinery, I think linked to alumina question. Lanjigarh refinery for the year.

Anup Agarwal

Ashish, if you were asking about the refinery, see, as we exited this FY '26, no, we exited at a run rate of closer to 4 million ton. Now if you look at our guidance, we're talking about 4, 4.1.

Now quarter 4 broadly, January, February, we should be closer to the rated capacity that we put in. Now why the delay?

Because the calciners and the boilers that we have put in, they are slightly running at a lower capacity of say 75%, 80%, and as we ramp up, we will probably achieve the rated capacity in quarter 4, and there we will achieve the rated capacity. Ashish,

hopefully

Anup Agarwal

I have answered your question. Okay.

Lastly on bauxite and coal mine? Yeah.

See, on the coal mine, no,

see,

Anup Agarwal

I'll first start with Kuraloi. Kuraloi, we have got the mining lease maybe a week back.

Now from here, probably in a month or so, we should start seeing the mining operation. That is on the Kuraloi.

Coming to Ghogharpalli, EC has been recommended at the start of this month, the month of April. We are also targeting FC in this quarter, and we remain committed to commission this block in the timelines that we have indicated last two quarters.

Last quarter, this quarter, we've been consistent in terms of the timeline. Sijimali also, as guided last time, okay, we have got the LOI extension done, FC-1 is granted, EC we're expecting next month, and hopefully in H1, we will see the mines opening.

Sir, in Sijimali, obviously we were expecting earlier in February also, now we are expecting in May. What is the actual delay which we are facing, means why government is not giving it?

Because we have seen lots of news in the newspaper, something in the local level also is disturbing. Is this the reason because of which we are getting this delay in Sijimali mine?

Anup Agarwal

I'll tell you, Ashish, let me address it in two-part. First, coming to the regulatory approvals, no, see, There was a LOI which got expired in the month of March.

It was an administrative process, okay. It took some time before that LOI has been extended.

We've just got the letter yesterday. Some time has gone into it.

Now coming to the noise that we are talking about, no, see, I'll tell you, we continue to engage closely with the state government, local administration, and surrounding communities, okay, to ensure that we have a smooth and responsible operation. This engagement is driven through focused community development initiatives across healthcare, education, infrastructure, culture preservation, and livelihood generation.

Ashish, keep in mind, this is a auctioned mine, okay. Maybe approvals have taken a little longer time, but we are in touch with the administration, with the community, and we expect to open this mine within the timeline that we have committed.

Charanjit Singh

Ashish, important point to note is when this

Anup Agarwal

Great, sir. Great.

Charanjit Singh

When this auction happened, there was few more mines which were issued to other players also, and we are the first one who have reached the EC stage, and which is almost at final stages. The process has its own time, particularly given it's a long process of public hearings, FC-1, FC-2, and if there is a forest land involved, which is of the size of few hundred hectares as is the case with the Sijimali, it is likely to take some time.

It is the process which is happening. We don't see any challenge in terms of the noise is there, of course, but I think it's all which is very common with all the infrastructure projects in the country.

Nothing very different in terms of the noise.

Understood. No issues because these things are obviously there when we already know about these things, but the timeline keeps on changing, almost a delay of a year.

As you rightly pointed out, regulatory approvals are one thing one can't handle. Anyway, best of luck and best wishes for the future for all the companies.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll take that as a last question for today.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Charanjit Singh for closing comments.

Over to you, sir.

Charanjit Singh

Thanks, everyone, for joining us. For any unanswered questions, you can get in touch with us, and we look forward to connecting again for the Q1 results, which will be more for the demerged entities, and looking forward to meeting you in the coming weeks.

Good day, and goodbye.

Operator

Thank you, members of the management team. On behalf of Vedanta Limited, that concludes this conference.

Thank you all for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.