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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 26, 2026

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Excelerate Energy Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Alex, I'll be your call [coordinator?]

on today's call. If you'd like to ask a question at the end of the presentation, you may press * followed by 1 on your telephone keypad.

If you'd like to withdraw that question, you may press * followed by 2. I'll now hand it over to Craig Hicks to begin.

Please go ahead.

Craig Hicks

Good morning, and thank you for joining Excelerate Energy's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Call. Joining me today are Steven Kobos, President and CEO, and Dana Armstrong, Chief Financial Officer.

Also joining the call are Oliver Simpson, Chief Commercial Officer, and David Liner, Chief Operating Officer. Our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings press release and presentation were published yesterday afternoon and are available on our website at ir.excelerateenergy.com.

Before we begin, please note that today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. We undertake no obligation to update these statements.

We'll also reference certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found at the back of the presentation.

With that, it is my pleasure to pass the call over to Steven Kobos.

Steven Kobos

Thank you, Craig, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today.

Whether you've followed Excelerate Energy for many years or you are new to the story, I want to start by grounding us in who we are and what differentiates our business. At Excelerate, we operate a global LNG and power infrastructure platform.

We help countries enhance their energy security by increasing access to global LNG markets. We do this by providing safe and reliable downstream energy infrastructure, particularly in markets where traditional onshore development is impractical or would take too long to deploy.

Our business is built around critical assets, long-term contracts, and dependable operating performance. That foundation has allowed us to operate through market cycles and deliver consistent results.

Turning to 2025, it was a strong year of execution for Excelerate Energy. For the full year, we delivered record adjusted EBITDA of $449 million.

This is an increase of about $100 million over the prior year. That performance reflects the contribution from the Jamaica acquisition, continued growth in our other LNG gas and power activities, along with reduced year-over-year operating expenses.

Operationally, we performed exceptionally well. Enterprise-wide reliability exceeded 99.9% for the year, our strongest performance to date.

Remember, reliability isn't just an operational measure, it's a financial one. Consistent, reliable performance generates stable, predictable cash flow.

We also ended the year with a strong balance sheet, significant liquidity, and low leverage. That financial position allows us to enter 2026 from a position of strength.

Today, we are introducing full year 2026 adjusted EBITDA guidance of $515 million to $545 million. At the midpoint, this is over an $80 million increase over our full year 2025 results.

Our '26 outlook is grounded in assets and contracts that are already operating or moving through execution. This provides a solid and visible foundation for the year ahead.

Looking more broadly, global LNG supply is going to increase materially through the end of the decade. As that supply comes to market, we expect demand for LNG regasification infrastructure to grow, particularly across the Global South.

Many of these markets are seeking reliable, scalable solutions to enhance energy security and reduce dependence on dirtier fuels. At the same time, power demand continues to rise.

Population growth, industrial development, and expanding digital infrastructure, including AI data centers, are placing new demands on energy systems. These dynamics reinforce the need for reliable LNG and power infrastructure, and they align well with capabilities of our asset portfolio.

Turning to Iraq, this remains a strategically important project for Excelerate. For Iraq, the project is mission-critical.

It provides a reliable source of nat gas to help with an existing deficit, to support growing power generation needs, and strengthen the country's energy security by reducing exposure to regional supply disruptions. Construction of Hull 3407, our newest, best-in-class FSRU, is progressing well.

The vessel has completed sea trials and is advancing through final commissioning activities. These include gas trials and cryogenic testing ahead of delivery in early second quarter.

In parallel, site mobilization and early construction activities for the integrated LNG import terminal at the port of Khor Al Zubair are underway. Engineering and procurement activities are progressing, long-lead items have been ordered, and we've executed the lease for the existing jetty.

As the project has advanced into detailed engineering, we refined the structural design of the jetty to ensure it can support safe, long-term terminal operations. These refinements required additional scope, including structural reinforcement, which has resulted in higher estimated construction capital.

As the project moves forward, we are gaining better visibility and are refining our financial assumptions based on scope and commercial terms. Total estimated capital cost for the Iraq terminal is now expected to range between $520 million and $550 million, inclusive of the cost of the FSRU.

The all-in cost of the vessel remains roughly $370 million, with about $220 million remaining to be paid for the vessel in the second quarter of this year. From an economic perspective, while total CapEx estimates have increased, we are now expecting annual terminal operating costs to be considerably lower.

The Iraq project is expected to achieve an EBITDA build multiple of approximately 5 times. This is in line with the economics we outlined on our November earnings call at the minimum contracted offtake of 250 million standard cubic feet per day.

Under the contract, deliveries can scale up to 500 million standard cubic feet per day, providing meaningful upside potential. The integrated Iraq terminal remains on track to commence operations in the third quarter of '26.

Now I'll turn to Jamaica. In '25, our Jamaica LNG-to-power platform performed exceptionally well.

It delivered safe and reliable energy supply to the country and provided us with stable, contracted cash flows. It also demonstrated exceptional resilience during Hurricane Melissa, one of the all-time most powerful hurricanes, with minimal operational and financial impacts during the fourth quarter.

Hurricane Melissa highlighted the benefits of LNG and floating regasification infrastructure in bolstering the energy security of Jamaica and potentially for other islands throughout the Caribbean. Following the acquisition, our focus has been on integration, operational excellence, and maintaining high levels of reliability.

We are proud to announce that full integration of the Jamaica platform was completed successfully in Q4. With integration complete, we are advancing our strategy to optimize the Jamaica platform while pursuing new infrastructure opportunities across the Caribbean.

With Jamaica integration complete and the Iraq project progressing as planned, our focus now turns to executing the next set of defined initiatives to extend our earnings growth trajectory. First, we expect the Exquisite FSRU to be redelivered at the expiration of its current contract late in Q3.

We have high confidence in redeploying the asset in improved economic terms over the prior contract. This should support incremental EBITDA uplift in 2027.

Second, we are moving forward with plans for an FSRU conversion. Under our current planning assumptions, the converted FSRU will be available for commercial deployment in early 2028.

Negotiations of the final contracts related to the conversion are ongoing, which is why this project is not yet included in our committed growth capital guidance. We're going to provide more detail once the necessary commercial agreements are finalized.

Finally, future growth will be driven by a set of scalable LNG regasification solutions that we know how to execute. These include integrated onshore terminals, floating storage units paired with onshore regasification, and small-scale and modular configurations.

Together, these solutions provide a disciplined and repeatable way to deploy capital and scale our global asset portfolio. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dana to walk through the financial results in more detail.

Dana Armstrong

Thanks, Steven, and good morning, everyone. As Steven outlined, 2025 was a year of exceptional performance for Excelerate Energy.

For the full year, we delivered record adjusted EBITDA of $449 million at the high end of our guidance range and an increase of over $100 million or up about 30% compared to the prior year. The growth was primarily due to the contribution from the Jamaica acquisition, which we closed in May 2025, and increased LNG gas and power sales opportunities.

Inclusive of Jamaica, we reported adjusted net income of $199 million, an increase of $46 million or up over 30% year-over-year. Adjusted net income increased due to the items noted previously, partially offset by higher interest expense related to our 2030 notes.

Turning to the fourth quarter, we delivered $40 million of adjusted net income and $113 million of adjusted EBITDA, both in line with our expectations. Results decreased sequentially from the third quarter, primarily due to a full Atlantic Basin cargo delivery in the third quarter compared to a partial delivery in the fourth quarter, along with increased business development expenses and modestly lower LNG gas and power direct margins in Jamaica following Hurricane Melissa.

For the full year, maintenance CapEx was $57 million and committed growth capital was $106 million, including $10 million of growth capital invested in the Iraq project in the fourth quarter of last year. Now let's turn to the balance sheet.

We ended the year with a strong balance sheet supported by robust cash flow generation and disciplined capital allocation. As of December 31st, 2025, total debt, including finance leases, was $1.3 billion, with $538 million of cash and cash equivalents on hand.

The full $500 million of capacity under our revolving credit facility was available as of December 31st. Net debt was $730 million, and trailing net leverage was 1.6 times.

Last week, the board approved a quarterly dividend of 8 cents per share, or 32 cents per share annualized, payable on March 26th, 2026. As previously communicated, Excelerate is targeting a low double-digit annual dividend growth rate commencing in 2026 and continuing through 2028.

We expect the next dividend increase to be approved in the second half of this year. In December 2025, our board authorized a $75 million share repurchase program.

With this authorization, we have the flexibility to repurchase shares in a disciplined manner, balancing shareholder returns with continued investment in our growth priorities. For the full year 2026, we expect adjusted EBITDA to range between $515 million and $545 million.

This outlook reflects continued performance of our contracted FSRU portfolio, a full year of contribution from Jamaica, a partial year contribution from Iraq, and incremental uplift from the back-to-back QatarEnergy and Petrobangla LNG supply agreements. In 2026, we expect maintenance CapEx to range between $100 million to $110 million.

The year-over-year increase in maintenance CapEx is driven mostly by the timing of dry docks. The Express and Exquisite FSRUs are both expected to undergo dry docks during 2026.

Under current planning assumptions, the Exquisite is expected to go to dry dock in the second quarter, and our newbuild, Hull 3407, will be utilized to substitute for the Exquisite. This will ensure continued operations at the Engro terminal in Pakistan.

The Express is expected to go to dry dock early in the fourth quarter. In addition, the dry dock for our vessel, the Explorer, which commenced late last year, concluded in the first quarter of this year.

The associated first quarter maintenance CapEx for the Explorer dry dock is included in our maintenance CapEx guidance range for 2026. Additionally, our maintenance CapEx range includes long-lead-time equipment for a dry dock that we anticipate to occur in early 2027.

Beyond dry docks, our maintenance CapEx guidance range includes additional strategic spares and other equipment, as well as capital spend for expected overhauls and upgrades across the broader asset portfolio. This investment in other non-dry-dock-related maintenance capital is part of a deliberate multi-year initiative focused on maintaining high levels of asset reliability, which supports predictable cash generation across the platform.

Turning to committed growth capital, we expect that to range between $370 million and $400 million. This range includes roughly $220 million remaining to be paid for Hull 3407, along with an expected $140 million to $170 million for the integrated terminal project in Iraq, and another $10 million of additional growth capital for other committed growth projects.

This capital positions us to take advantage of the significant wave of LNG supply coming online over the next few years, ensuring that the proper infrastructure is in place to convert that supply into reliable power and gas for end users. In summary, we believe our guidance and capital plans appropriately balance growth, returns, and financial discipline while preserving flexibility as we execute on our strategic priorities.

With that, we'll now open up the call for questions.

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press * followed by 1 on your telephone keypad.

If you'd like to remove that question, you may press * followed by 2. Our first question for today comes from Elliot Johnson of J.P.

Morgan. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Elliot Johnson

Hey, good morning, everyone. Wanted to start on the organic growth across the business more broadly.

As we look past Iraq in service this summer, can you help frame what we're most likely to see next from a capital sanctioning perspective and whether that's Jamaica expansions, more integrated deals like we've seen in Iraq, LNG conversions? Then more broadly, can we kind of step back and think about what the EBITDA run rate and growth of this business is headed towards as we look ahead a few years?

Thanks.

Steven Kobos

Good morning, Eli. This is Steven.

I don't know if we'll need any more questions after that one, man. That covers the gamut.

I'll take a stab. Let me take a step back first.

We've talked about the LNG wave that's coming to market. Your question has to be viewed in the context of what's coming.

What is coming is that the focus of the entire LNG industry is shifting in the time period that you're talking about from liquefaction to regasification. You're basically saying, with the focus moving to regasification, where are our priorities?

I've often said it's like asking someone, a parent, which child they love most. We love all of these.

Each one has something unique where they can benefit from this changing dynamic from the wave. I just got back a few weeks ago from India, got to sit with Prime Minister Modi.

He was adamant that India is going to move to 15% nat gas consumption by 2030. That's huge.

They're only at 6% right now of the energy mix for 1.4 billion people. Love that.

Going to keep focusing there. There are a lot of opportunities South and Southeast Asia in general.

As you've seen with Iraq, they can come up everywhere. They have different market dynamics.

What's interesting about Iraq, they just don't have enough nat gas. They were running a massive shortfall, and then Iran quit exporting anything.

They went from 0.8 Bcf to zero last summer. They desperately need that project, our project, to come online for us to help satisfy an absurd deficit.

That's a unique one. If you think about the past, since we're talking macro, if you think about the past four years of global energy, what's the main lesson?

In my mind, the main lesson is cross-border pipelines aren't reliable. It's for all kinds of reasons.

It could be about the neighbor, it could be about the risk of interference, all kinds of reasons. LNG is a gift to the world.

It's a blessing. It allows someone to diversify their supply from a neighbor who they may or may not get along with to the world.

Everyone's going to move to that. Thank you for the question because you can see why we're so bullish that Excelerate is the right company at the right moment in time to go after this.

What do we expect? I think you've got the building blocks out there for where we have high confidence on EBITDA in 2027.

We don't guide to it, and Dana can speak to that further, but I think the building blocks are there and it's easy to piece together where we see EBITDA going to in '27. We're telling you we're going to add additional assets.

I will say we've seen with Iraq that an integrated deal rewards infrastructure companies like Excelerate who have taken the time and have planned in advance to be able to offer LNG together with infra and link them together. That is the preferred method moving forward.

We are not hidebound. We believe in selling to a customer what a customer wants to buy.

We don't want to say we know more than a customer, we know more about a market that they've lived in forever. We will continue to be eager to sell the infrastructure products and to build them together with LNG or not as a particular market may think best for themselves.

I do think this TAM is global, don't be surprised if we pop up, I don't know, in LatAm, again in Middle East, or elsewhere. I would say the focus continues to be South and Southeast Asia.

Dana Armstrong

Just to add to the building blocks, Eli. As Steven said, we don't provide multi-year guidance, but I think Steven summarized it really well, that you'll have a full year of Iraq in 2027.

We've spoken to that being about a 5 times multiple, you can do the math there. We've previously spoken to Jamaica, which we expect to grow, as we said previously, between $80 to $110 million on top of the base business over the next five years.

We obviously have the Petrobangla QE coming online in '26, that's an incremental $15 million for two years, then going to $18 million. Then now we've got the Express, we expect to get on a new contract in 2027, adding uplift to our margin.

I think you can kind of get to a range for the next few years with those building blocks.

Steven Kobos

Throw on

Elliot Johnson

That's great color. Really appreciate it from the team.

Then maybe just pivoting more specifically to the Iraq LNG project. We're seeing some global instability in the region, which seemingly increases the importance of the project.

Can you speak to project expansions and then maybe just a bit more color on the CapEx revision we saw? I know you touched on it in your opening remarks, but just any other color you can provide.

Thanks.

Steven Kobos

I think all eyes are on the region, and there's nothing new there, Eli. All eyes are always on the region.

It's one of the reasons why we've known this project was critical. It's just crazy.

Iraq, they've got 8 to 12 hours of grid electricity in summer. Just think about that for a second.

Imagine if Houston had 8 to 12 hours of grid electricity in the summer. It's absurd.

It is a massive need. Iran was delivering 800 million scfs a day of nat gas and they still were at 8 to 12 hours of grid electricity in summer.

In terms of a thirsty market, I cannot imagine the profile of a thirstier market. Those deliveries were at sometimes 50% of their gas needs.

It's hard to go find any market around the world that has a more critical, urgent need for LNG. It's why we're moving so quickly.

Frankly, we're thinking long-term. We think this can be far more than five years, but we're conservative in how we talk to you all.

Contract's five years, we're talking about five years. Contract says a minimum take-or-pay of 250 million scfs of gas, so that's what we're talking to you all about.

You should really be taking seriously the contractual upside that exists in that project because the fundamentals they're robust. They're the strongest I can imagine for LNG demand globally.

That's that component. CapEx number, not to minimize the complexity of any project, but come on, this is steel piles and concrete.

What you saw in general was just some change in scope after we got into the weeds on the geotechnical, geophysical, took core samples, all that stuff. More than that, you saw some horse trading commercially with the Iraqis where we took on some CapEx scope, they gave on some OpEx scope.

I don't want to get into the weeds. I think the punchline for that is, we're comfortable with the 5-time build multiple that Dana and I both mentioned in the remarks.

I think something we're excited about. I think it's something where we can make a difference in the world.

Energy security is what it's all about, and there's no better example for that than Iraq. Energy security is important to everyone.

When I was in India, Energy Minister Singh Puri said, in his opening remarks of an event, he said, "We view energy security as being survival." That's what it's about to ensure that you have energy for your economy.

It's about survival. Regasification, reliable access to regasification, is about providing countries with survival.

I know that sounds a little over the top, but we believe it.

Elliot Johnson

Awesome. Really appreciate the color today.

Thanks, guys. Bye.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Theresa Chen of Barclays.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Theresa Chen

Good morning. Maybe turning to Jamaica for a second.

With the assets fully integrated at this point, can you elaborate on the near-term optimization opportunities and the additional growth options as well from here? What do you think is realistic over the course of the next 12 months to a couple years?

Which infrastructure opportunities do you think are the most compelling?

Steven Kobos

Theresa, I'll start off there, and then I'm going to let Oliver weigh in. Thank you.

Mic drop moment, integration went flawlessly and was over by Q4. We managed Hurricane Melissa perfectly.

I forgot, there's a quote in The Economist. I don't know if it says it's like the highest sustained winds of any hurricane, I don't know, since the Old Testament or something, that's how I read it.

You might look at it, see what it said. No small thing.

Frankly, the Jamaican Prime Minister told me, this has been a proof point of the reliability for thermal power and these sort of floating assets that can avoid avoid harm in terms of resiliency. Love it.

In general, I don't think we're going to come off of the the multi-year guide No, we're not going to come off of, but I don't think we're going to provide a different guidance than the multi-year guidance that we have out there for the Caribbean. If you're connecting breadcrumb crumbs, you can start to see we're thinking about deploying the same sort of hub-and-spoke, smaller scale models in other parts of the world.

I'll let Oliver take it from there, please.

Oliver Simpson

Yep. Thanks, Theresa.

Thanks, Steven. From our perspective in Jamaica, obviously, when we bought these assets, we talked about it, we bought a platform in Jamaica and the region.

I think in Jamaica itself, we have opportunities near term using the existing infrastructure, the existing assets to deliver more LNG to customers. We've had some success there on the small scale, and we're continuing to look at those solutions.

I think on the back of Hurricane Melissa, I think the proof point on the island was, the infrastructure we had came out to be extremely resilient, and I think that's going to be a great selling point as we look with new customers on the island. Sort of longer term and a little further out, there are some bigger sort of asset plays, capital plays both in Jamaica and in the broader Caribbean that we continue to look at.

Obviously, that's using the platform in Jamaica as the sort of hub, and then those kind of become the spokes. We've got a number of conversations in the region that are going well and that we expect to progress.

Obviously, those would be coming on in '27 and beyond. I think that is how I would think about it, sort of extreme near term is really using the assets in Jamaica, and then next year and beyond is looking at other assets across the Caribbean.

Theresa Chen

Thank you for that detailed answer, and happy to know, Steven, that your success in Jamaica is officially of biblical proportions. Thanks.

Steven Kobos

Thanks, Theresa.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Scialla from Stephens.

Michael, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Michael Scialla

Hi. Good morning.

Wanted to see if you could help with the cadence of the capital spend this year. Seems like it's going to be first-half weighted, just wanted to see if you could provide any information on that.

Dana Armstrong

Hi, Michael. That would be a good assumption that it's first-half weighted, because the, we broke out how much of that was Iraq, and we said 140 to 170 of that spend is Iraq, so that will be first-half weighted as we do expect to go into service in the third quarter.

The maintenance CapEx we said on the call would be, it's going to be in the second quarter for the Exquisite, and then the fourth quarter for the Express. Then the newbuild is in the second quarter, the most of that growth capital, the good chunk of that, will be in the first half of the year.

Michael Scialla

Got it. Then, Steven, wanted to see if you could expand at all on the conversations you had in India.

It looks like you signed a JV there. How should we think about that?

Is it a longer-term project kind of beyond this three-year window where you've got a lot of projects coming together, or could it fit into the next three years?

Steven Kobos

Mike, it could definitely fit within '28, for sure. In terms of how to think about it, though, I think I would think about it that Excelerate does what we say we will do.

We've been talking about the markets that we're interested in for some time. Sometimes there are announcements in those markets, sometimes they're not.

It is not a question of whether we are looking for the right opportunities. I do think starting off somewhat smaller scale in India is the right move for us.

We want to be in India. There's no doubt about it.

I had great round table with Prime Minister Modi, energy CEOs, and I was the only American there. We definitely want to be there, but it's all about getting into the market.

That one's called Haldia, it's just south of Calcutta. Pipe's being built out.

India is such an enormous market. Just the pipe that's going to what they call the Seven Sisters provinces north of Haldia, it's 40 million people alone.

There are lots of little pockets of demand in India. What I'd like you to think about, Michael, is that it's our first foray into India, but it won't be our last one.

That sometimes when you don't hear what we're up to in a market, we're still working it. More to come on Haldia.

Michael Scialla

Look forward to that. Appreciate it.

Steven Kobos

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Robertson of Deutsche Bank.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Chris Robertson

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Just a quick question on the Exquisite.

I guess, what are your expectations around the redeployment at this point? Do you expect that asset will roll with the same counterparty at the improved terms, or are there some interesting inbound inquiries from other potential counterparties at this point?

Are you seeing any inbounds from any particular region or country?

Steven Kobos

Chris, first of all, I think you're speaking to the Express, and that's our fault for our horrible naming conventions. I apologize.

No, they all sound like they've got the same name, man, and I do it every single day. In terms of Express, what I would say is, past four years, we've recontracted four of our well-termed legacy contract assets and they've all been at a uplift to EBITDA.

Absolutely confident this will be the same. We are in discussions around the world about it.

Again, it's kind of running a sense of what's most appealing to us in terms of start time, duration of contract, EBITDA uplift, can you integrate, can you not. We'll evaluate all those factors and get back to you when the time is right.

What I'd leave you with is, we're going to do what we've done before. Many of the investor meetings, many of the analyst calls in the past four years have been about when can you get your hands on evergreen contracts, and the reason you all have had those questions is, you know we can get better uplift, and we're going to.

Chris Robertson

Thank you, Steven. Apologies again for the misstatement there.

Steven Kobos

Moving towards

Chris Robertson

just if you could provide some commentary about your greater opportunities here. We've talked about regasification infrastructure quite a bit and the integrated projects as it relates to the LNG supply, but how are you guys thinking at this point now that Jamaica's integrated, you're running power assets there, what are the opportunities looking like on the power side of things in terms of gas turbines, natural gas power plants, and how are you thinking about that in terms of an integrated approach?

Steven Kobos

I think we're thinking about it the same way many people up to IOCs are thinking about it. If it's going to give you an advantage in terms of pull-through demand, contract duration, all kinds of things, then, yeah, we're going to evaluate it.

We're going to continue to evaluate it, and we are in a better position to sell that because we operate that. We do find ourselves in a better position there, just as when we got our first LNG positions in our portfolio, it allowed us to credibly offer integrated products there as well.

I can't say when, but it's all about pull-through demand in the rest of the world, and happy to get into the growth in air conditioning expected in the Global South. That's going to triple by 2050 up to, I don't know, some crazy number of units, I think 5.6 billion units.

When you talk about LNG, you talk about the total addressable market, you talk about the Global South, power is ultimately what's going to drive that. If it's the right pull-through demand with the right economics, we will absolutely do it.

Chris Robertson

All right. Great.

Sounds great. Glad to hear there's a lot of options out there and potential growth.

Thank you, Steven.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Bobby Brooks of Northland Capital Markets.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Bobby Brooks

Hey, good morning, team. Thank you for taking my question.

I wanted to touch on the maintenance CapEx. You had mentioned that this a part of kind of a multi-year plan sort of enhancing the asset portfolio and continuing to ensure the highest levels of uptime.

I was just curious to hear what some of those investments might look like or the enhancement, and are those going to be able to uplift kind of current EBITDA generation off the current assets at their contracted rates today, or is it something that once it's up for recontracting, then you can get a better price?

Steven Kobos

Hey, Bobby. I'm going to hand it to David, but I like to have mic drop when we can.

As I said in my remarks, reliability isn't an operational measure, it's a financial one. That 99.9% uptime, it's not an accident.

You don't trip and fall and get to 99.9%. You plan to do it.

We love this asset class, and we're going to do what we need to do to make sure it's reliable for the long haul. You shouldn't view this as run rate.

It's specifics, but we expect this to scale down by '28, for sure. The longevity program.

David, any color, but without giving away the family secrets?

David Liner

Yeah. A fantastic portfolio of assets, whether it's the fleet, the power generation, the terminals, the small scale, all that, we've got to maintain at a level that we can perform similarly as '24, '25, and we're going to do it in '26 at 99.9% reliability.

To do that, we have to, and we're constantly studying, any areas where we may have vulnerability to a single point of failure or some piece of equipment that if it goes down will have an outsized impact on our reliability. We're constantly looking at those items, and we have a focused initiative in '26 and '27 where we're replenishing and making sure that for any of those pieces of equipment, we've got one, two, or three on the beach or on board ready to deploy at a moment's notice.

It's usually larger pieces of kit, sometimes it's smaller pieces of equipment, but yeah, we want to make sure we've got a full warehouse to maintain that level of performance going forward.

Bobby Brooks

Awesome. That makes a lot of sense, and I always love a mic drop moment from you, Steven.

Then wanted to kind of shift gears a little bit, and about a $4.7 million step-up sequentially in SG&A in the fourth quarter, and kind of above the range that you guys have been doing the past seven. Just wanted to hear a little bit about what drove that.

Maybe it was just as simple as one-off, one-time bonuses from the record year in '25. If you could provide any color of how to be thinking about that on a run rate basis going forward, it'd be appreciated.

Dana Armstrong

Hey, Bobby, it's Dana. Good question.

If you look at our Q4 over Q3, there was really two items that drove that. The first was the Hurricane Melissa impact.

All in, we had an EBITDA impact in Q4 of about $6 million. Of that $6 million, about $2 million of that hit our SG&A.

What rolled into the SG&A was our CSR efforts, we said we spent over $1 million on CSR to support the island. There was some employee assistance, much smaller amount, and then some other miscellaneous costs related to the hurricane.

All in, that was about 2. That was definitely an anomaly.

Then also in SG&A, we report our business development spend in SG&A. For the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter, that was up about $2 million.

About half of that increase was Iraq, those were just costs to get ready for the project that we were not able to capitalize yet, and then some other business development growth initiatives. The rest of it was just miscellaneous year-end cleanup.

It's certainly not a run rate. It's more of we do see a little bit of lumpiness in the SG&A number mostly driven by business development.

Bobby Brooks

Got it. Thank you for that color, and congrats on a really strong quarter.

Looking forward to the good times ahead.

Dana Armstrong

Thanks, Bobby.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Emma Schwartz of Jefferies.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Emma Schwartz

Hi, Steven. The growth potential of the platform is really impressive, and I wanted to ask on Excelerate leaning in further.

Could you look to acquire another LNG conversion candidate in 2026? Is there anything preventing you guys from developing multiple FSRUs at the same time?

It doesn't seem like leverage is a constraint here, just wanted to ask about leaning in further.

Steven Kobos

Hey, Emma. Thank you.

I almost called the conversion in the remarks, I almost named it conversion number one to try to hint at that, but we will we're not going to wait till delivery of conversion number one in '28 to get started. We do understand that we're the next five years are an incredibly important moment in time.

There is an enormous TAM out there, and we're going to be acting to give us to continue this growth trajectory. I'd like to get back to you after we've got a little more color on this first conversion that we've announced, but it's certainly not the end of it.

Look at Express, look at uplift for that, look at the fact that we'll deploy this first conversion in early '28. I'm sure that we'll say consistent things with what we've said before, we look for build multiples of 5 to 7, just like other quality midstream companies, and I doubt that we'll say anything different about conversion number one.

Then, I hope in the course of this year that we'll be talking about more.

Emma Schwartz

Sounds good. Thank you.

My second question is, I want to ask on these small-scale light solutions. What are the build multiples or returns for these kind of projects?

Is this something that you would develop internally the capabilities to deliver, or is M&A an option to scale up this side of the business?

Steven Kobos

Emma, we never put a blindfold on, we're always looking for the best way to skin a cat. It's not complex things, but the closer you get downstream, you should look for better returns.

We don't mind it. I'd like the fact that we have trucks.

I want to have trucks in other markets, too. It's not going to be huge volumes, but by definition, the closer you get of that last mile and get to that last quarter mile and get to that last 100 meters, yes, you should have higher returns associated with small scale.

Otherwise, frankly, it wouldn't be worth the candle. It is worth the candle.

Emma Schwartz

Makes sense. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Zach Van Everen of TPH.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Zack Van Everen

Hi, all. Thanks for taking my question.

Maybe starting on Iraq, curious if you could swap the Express with the newbuild just based on the send-out of that ship, and what upside opportunity could that provide placing the newbuild elsewhere?

Steven Kobos

Zack, I'll take that one. I don't want to.

That was a conscious decision to put 3407 into Iraq. That's about staying there in the best regasification project that I'm aware of and staying in there for a long haul and being part of that.

Knowing that it can go north of 500, that's a contractual limitation. It's not a limitation on offtake from that pipe that the Iraqis laid, that 40-kilometer pipe they laid.

It's not a limitation from what we're going to build. We want to do more over the long haul, and we want to be as sticky as we possibly are.

That's about offering the Iraqis something better than anyone else on Earth would. It is a very conscious decision on our part to do it.

It's part of a long-term plan. You raise a good point.

It sounds like you should be in the in the BD group, kicking around optionality, because we've had that discussion over the past year. I can share with you what our landing point is.

Zack Van Everen

Got it. No, that's super helpful context and appreciate that.

Maybe one more on Iraq. You guys historically have talked about new EBITDA from the FSRU.

Could you maybe break out the split of that 5 times multiple between the terminal, the ship, and the supply deal? Just what maybe percent from each of those contributions for the project?

Dana Armstrong

Hi, Zach. That's an integrated deal, so that's not something that we're going to talk about on a split basis.

We expect we will report all of it in the LNG gas and power part of our business, and we expect to report on that on a combined basis. That's not something we intend to split out.

Zack Van Everen

Gotcha. No worries.

Appreciate the time.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Wade Suki of Capital One.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Wade Suki

Great. Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone.

I think just to dovetail, I think it was off of Emma's question earlier, might push a little bit for a little clarity around that conversion. If I heard you correctly, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the FSRU conversion may or may not be the Shenandoah.

Could be another vessel. Am I reading between the lines here or am I just off base?

Steven Kobos

No, Wade, that wasn't what I intended to convey with the lines. We're never going to be hidebound.

We could certainly be doing an FSU concurrently, I tried to say that. It just depends about what of our commercial deals get the most traction and look appealing to us quickly.

Shenandoah's top of mind, but we're going to be bringing a multitude of assets to the forefront because that's what this future point in the LNG industry is going to require. Iraq can easily scale to 4 million tons a year.

You can figure that out. There are going to be a lot of 0.5 to 2.0 million ton deals around the world, and it's not going to be a one-size-fits-all asset that's deployed for it.

We're not going to be hidebound and keep ourselves out of any of those opportunities. Just don't take anything I'm saying as limiting what we're willing to pursue.

I'm trying to convey that from best-in-class FSRUs like 3407 down to trucks, we want to get LNG to people around the world.

Wade Suki

Understood. I guess next question might be on potential newbuild, kind of where that is in your priorities, considerations, potential specifications, maybe not something as robust as Hull 3407.

Just kind of curious what your thoughts are there as you look at all the opportunities and potential growth avenues for you.

Steven Kobos

I don't think 340 I I sincerely doubt, Wade, that 3407 is the last newbuild. There are a lot of reasons for that.

I love what the We've built up specifications over, 20 years. We we love being able to control that to that degree.

It's all going to be about what we think particular markets that we're pursuing need. I I think, in general, you can assume that newbuilds, we love them when we think there is ultimately a chance for an enhanced send-out.

Another thing about newbuilds, too, like, with an integrated deal, you care about boil-off, you want to make sure you've got great, great tank. That was the other thing I didn't mention with one of the earlier questions, like why 3407 into Iraq.

I mentioned the sticky nature of it. I didn't mention that it's got fantastic natural boil-off from its tanks.

That's our LNG. We care about that.

It's going to be adding value for us over the life of that project. There are a lot of considerations there that factor into it.

As I said, I expect us to use all the tools at our disposal over the, coming five years.

Wade Suki

Understood. Thank you.

Just one last one, if I could, just with clarity, just to make sure I heard you correctly. Did I hear you say that the newbuild could be used temporarily fill in for the Exquisite?

Did I hear that correctly, in the second quarter or did I mishear it?

Steven Kobos

No, you've got very good hearing, Wade. You've got very good hearing.

For two reasons. One, we care about our customers.

We want to make sure if our customer wants something during a dry dock, we're going to try to move heaven and earth to accommodate them. First point.

Second point is, I have high confidence in 3407. It's been a pleasure to see it go through sea trials, coming up on gas trials.

It's always nice to finally flow gas, though. It's nice to regasify before you start up, you're not messing around with commissioning your regas system at the same time you're bringing a terminal online.

We will both fulfill our customer's desires and needs and at the same time, it'll allow us to commission the regas plant before she arrives in Iraq. Kind of a win-win.

Wade Suki

Perfect. Thanks again, everyone.

Appreciate it. Have a great day.

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we currently have no further questions.

I'll hand back to CEO Steven Kobos for any further remarks.

Steven Kobos

Thanks, everyone, for joining us today. I would reiterate one thing I said on the call.

The focus of the LNG industry moving forward is regasification, not liquefaction. Excelerate is the prime driver of that, and we look forward to continuing our discussions throughout the year.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you all for joining today's call. You may now disconnect your lines.