Essi Lipponen
Hello, welcome to Fiskars Group's Q2 results webcast. My name is Essi Lipponen, and I am the Director, Investor Relations.
I am here with our President and CEO, Jyri Luomakoski, and our CFO, Jussi Siitonen. Let's look at the agenda of this call.
Jyri will first go through Q2 in brief, some highlights. Jussi will go through the financials in more detail, after which Jussi will hand over to Jyri, who will cover business areas and our guidance for the year.
We will have plenty of time for your questions, and we welcome questions both through the chat and through the phone lines. Jyri, please go ahead.
Essi Lipponen
Jyri Luomakoski
Thank you, Essi. Good morning, welcome also on my behalf.
Brief summary of the quarter, it was actually the fourth consecutive growth quarter, much driven by our business area, Vita. Comparable net sales 3% up and comparable EBIT improving from EUR 3 million to shy of EUR 8 million.
There was a clear way in the positive direction. Both sales growth and EBIT improvement really was driven by Vita for Fiskars BA, where the growth number, it is a black zero, so when you go to the decimals, you get to a positive.
It is not rounded up to zero, but it is rounded down to zero. Some margin expansion, but pretty much stable in terms of the EBIT.
One of our focus points now since a year has been cash flow as a consequence of the balance sheet or the indebtedness that had gone above our limits, and we have been focusing on our cash flow. There was a continuous improvement, significant actually, to EUR 31 million on free cash flow, and that is net working capital-driven and strict CapEx management has been key there.
We introduced the new financial targets in our Capital Markets Day in May, you can actually find those in the appendix of this presentation and in our releases. That is something we will not dive deeper into today as such.
On our sustainability journey, pleased to report also that we regained the Platinum EcoVadis status or medal, and that is a result of hard work. We need to remember that that implies that we are in the top 1% of the companies assessed, and it is not the average companies that file for that.
It is those who have sustainability already in their focus. We have not changed our guidance.
It is as it has been since February, comparable EBIT to increase or expected to improve from last year's level. That is the segue to the numbers.
Jussi.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Thank you, Jyri. As Jyri already mentioned, after admittedly a quite long period of no growth, we have now succeeded to grow fourth quarter in a row.
The growth has been very much driven by Vita, 5.5% now in Q2, and flat Fiskars BA. The growth has been very broad-based.
When it comes to our top four countries, USA, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland now in Q2, which are more than 50% of our Q2 sales, all these four countries were growing. On top of that, we had a very robust growth in Japan.
There are some behavioristic differences between countries, but overall, at the group level, these four countries were showing a very robust growth. When it comes to our channels, our own e-commerce was up 4% in Q2, our own retail up 2%, and wholesale up 3%.
By the way, this Q2 was the first time in company history when Vita was already bigger than Fiskars. Now we know that the second half is very Vita-dominated when it comes to top line.
On EBIT, we were up quite significantly from admittedly low level last year, from EUR 3 million to EUR 7.7 million. Also our earnings per share adjusted was -EUR 0.06.
They are very close to last year, same period, and I will go a bit deep on that one after a couple of slides. Moving to EBIT bridge, I start here from the middle where we have BA Vita.
BA Vita succeeded to improve EBIT by EUR 5 million versus last year. The main drivers being increased sales volumes, lower marketing spend, and very strict SG&A management there.
SG&A management was partially supported already the benefits from this restructuring program we announced earlier this year where we said a EUR 28 million program out of which up to 1/3 should come in now in 2026, which is very much second half loaded, but already in Q2, we have some benefits coming from that program. As you can see, gross margin came down in BA Vita.
That is very much driven of those actions we have put in place in our supply chain to manage the inventory level, to manage the factory variances. On the right, BA Fiskars was flat at reported EBIT.
Currency neutral base, we were slightly up versus last year. In BA Fiskars, we continued improving gross margin.
As we said in the Capital Markets Day that in BA Fiskars we are focusing on this flywheel where we are increasing media spend, where we are increasing R&D and get a momentum on our top line. That continued now in Q2.
All those benefits, what we had there from gross margin improvement, we invested back in marketing, SG&A and R&D. R&D was up over 20% now in Q2 versus last year.
The cash flow. As Jyri already mentioned, we had a very strong Q2 cash flow.
Free cash flow, the way we define it now, we changed it in Capital Markets Day so that our unlevered free cash flow now includes also those lease payments there. With this new definition, we were at EUR 30.4 million now in Q2, EUR 28 million better than last year, which is significant improvement there mainly coming from change in Net working capital.
Net working capital came down over EUR 30 million, whilst last year it was quite flat. Another positive driver what we had on cash flow is our CapEx.
CapEx in Q2 was EUR 7 million, which is less than half what we had last year same period. Even for the first half basis, in the first six months, CapEx was EUR 12 million, which is half of last year's six months CapEx.
This CapEx management is now one of the key drivers what we have here to manage our cash flow. Then cash earnings per share almost double from EUR 29 to EUR 51.
I will go through a bit more closely that on the next slide. As said, earnings per share was quite flat this year on adjusted basis.
From -EUR 0.05 to -EUR 0.06 there. Adjusted EBIT contributed improvement there by EUR 0.06.
Then fair valuation of biological assets, i.e. our forest assets there, and net financials took it slightly down.
When it comes to our net financials there, the biggest single negative is fair valuation of our commodity hedges. Taxes also took it down, and taxes also include here those adjustment based on those items affecting comparability.
On cash earnings per share, you can see significant improvement there coming from a Net working capital change, and that has been the main driver for this improvement. On net debt EBITDA, net debt EBITDA was now 3.42x at the end of Q2.
Last year it was 3.16x, so it's increased versus Q2 last year. Versus Q1, in this last quarter, we succeeded to improve it a bit.
The main reason for this increasing net debt EBITDA versus last year is coming from EBITDA side. Rolling 12 months EBITDA was lower than it was in comparison period.
The net debt itself came down versus last year. When it comes to our net debt overall, what we made now in Q2 was EUR 50 million tap issue to our existing EUR 200 million bond.
Then we have also strengthened our liquidity. Total liquidity what we have at the end of Q2 is EUR 420 million, consisting of EUR 300 million committed credit facilities, roughly EUR 40 million overdraft there, and then roughly EUR 80 million cash.
Our liquidity is very strong now when we start the second half. When it comes to our sustainability and on our sustainability targets, I would like to highlight the circularity, which is one of the key KPI what we are here following our environmental commitments.
Now it's up to 30% versus last year, 28%, and we continue driving it towards 50% by end of 2030. When it comes to emissions, scope one, scope two, and scope three all are improving from last year.
On social side, I would like to highlight this lost time accident frequency. Significant improvement from last year, 3.6 to 2.9.
Whilst we are very happy with this improvement, we can't be happy with the current level until it's zero. With that, handing over back to you, Jyri.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
Thank you, Jussi. Looking at our two business areas, what's been happening at Vita.
As in the intro mentioned, fourth consecutive growth quarter for Vita, and we can clearly see signs of our turnaround that is critical, instrumental to the business. As such, growth is relevant, but also those measures that we took in the wintertime, in the springtime in terms of restructuring, both reorganizing and as a consequence of that was leading also to reduction in our headcount, which you can see also now in the quarterly report when you look at the aggregate personnel, the FTEs average in the quarter, it's already down quite in a relevant number and materially in line with our plans.
What was driving up the growth? Across D2C and wholesale on a broad base in terms of channels, we've seen growth.
Georg Jensen, which is kind of the newest family member in the family of brands at Vita acquired 2023 has continued strong performance on the top line and as such, been a very wanted brand for the consumers. Many of our regional leader brands, whether it's Rörstrand, which has celebrated its 300-year anniversary this spring, and Moomin Arabia, have continued growing.
When we look at the comparable EBIT, still this time of the year, the number is dismal and it's also unfortunately negative. It has improved, and that's important that the direction is right and we are not sliding down on that side.
We can see both the effects of the volume growth and the effects, first signs or first things ending up in the income statement. We have a high degree of confidence, those ending up in H2, in Q3 and Q4, on our SG&A savings as a consequence of the program that was announced in early February.
In Jussi's EBIT bridges, you saw that the gross margin there was a negative variance, unfavorable move on the gross margin at Vita, that's not because of pricing slippage. It is because of us continuing scaling down the production.
For many years, when we had a declining top line, we did not have the corresponding decline in the operations and ended up at significantly higher inventories than the business would actually necessarily need. Now we are in the inverse process.
We are scaling down production, we are ramping up sales, and that's the recipe to eat up the inventories. As long as we are scaling down the production that's eating up, as Jussi mentioned, in terms of the supply chain variances.
It's a lack of absorption of the fixed cost of factory facilities that is hitting the EBIT. When we take the ruler, we can see that these lines will also meet each other at some point of time.
That's really behind the comparable gross margin decrease. The good news is that we know what it comes from, and it's not from price erosion in the marketplace.
Many things have happened, as I mentioned, Rörstrand turned 300 years and that's of course something that has been boosting. There is a good reason to activate.
It's a royal purveyor, has a royal warrant from the Swedish court. Attending also the 300-year anniversary, the Nationalmuseum is having an exhibition this summer on Rörstrand, curated by the museum.
It's a bit similar, like maybe in Iittala, perceived as national property in terms of the heritage. Iittala, those who have been active and young in the 90s, have been playing with Pokémon characters, et cetera, will recognize the limited edition collaboration with Pokémon actually sold out in the first week.
More to come, but that's how desired brands are working. New jewelry series or collection at Georg Jensen, Weft, then many of our brands were visible at the 3daysofdesign in Copenhagen early June.
3daysofdesign is, besides Milan, the biggest, I think even globally biggest design event. In the picture on the slide, you can see a 9-meter-tall Aalto vase.
It's a bit bigger than 90 years ago when the vase was launched and brought to the market, and it's not made out of glass. It was pulling a lot of attention in the marketplace.
Good way to celebrate the 90-year celebration and anniversary. At Fiskars, top line flat on a currency-neutral base.
Half of the business is in the U.S., in U.S. dollars, so still the exchange is burdening us a bit.
Less and less the further we go through the year, when we look at last year's EUR-USD exchange curve. Margin slightly expanded while we were growing in the U.S., which was very much driven by our distribution gains and our credibility in the marketplace as we handled the import duty or tariff crisis and availability, kept the availability, have been bringing new products.
Declines in Central Europe, that appears to be the corner. Traditionally, it was the Finns.
We Finns have been the most cautious consumers. If there is a kind of gunpowder burning somewhere on this planet, as unfortunately we currently can observe, Finns were immediately stopping spending and currently it seems that it's Germans and some other countries in the Central European markets where this consumer cautiousness is very visible.
Stable EBIT, and the gross margin, as Jussi's bridge showed, was expanding. We have had some good traction with our new products and want to continue on that track remaining relevant to the consumer and to the trade to grant us the shelf space.
On picture level here, the modular system, OneClick tool system, was introduced during the quarter, then we gained a few Red Dot Awards and our new power tools, French actually, got the highest design award, Best of the Best distinction at the Red Dot Design Awards and our new pet care and dual action hedge shears and pruners and so forth, got the normal kind of Red Dot Design Award. It's been recognized also, not only by the excellent functionality, but also the design and optics and aesthetics.
What is expected to happen this year? Still half of the race is unfinished.
We expect that our comparable EBIT is improving from last year's level. I guess that some of the listeners or watchers of this webcast were hoping for some kind of French.
That was something that we have been also hoping. At the same time, we've been hoping that some of the wars would settle, and that hasn't been really the very recent trend, which means that the uncertainties in the global economy continue to persist.
The visibility is somewhat limited. We know that our EBIT generation is much weighted to the second half of the year.
That really the improvement is primarily driven by business area Vita. We see that the changes that Vita announced in February, the execution of those programs has progressed basically like the manuscript says.
Hence, we have a high degree of confidence getting that benefit to the H2 and onwards also. We also know that we will still have kind of a savings mode and not full speed on some of our factories to eat up and consume the elevated inventories.
That will, as a consequence, have a negative impact. From the historical H1, H2 pattern, obviously, when we acquired Georg Jensen, we also showed that it will actually make it even more extreme.
The good news is that the H2-heavy and Q4-heavy Jensen has been one of our leading growth drivers in Vita, so that's helping us much in terms of our confidence behind our guidance. That takes us to the Q&A.
Jyri Luomakoski
Essi Lipponen
Yes. Thank you, Jyri and Jussi.
We do have some questions already in the chat. We will first check if there are any questions through the phone lines.
Essi Lipponen
Operator
If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad.
The next question comes from Joni Sandvall from Nordea. Please go ahead.
Operator
Joni Sandvall
Thanks, Jyri and Jussi for the presentation. Starting maybe with Vita supply chain.
You mentioned that in short term, this will still burden the margins. Are you expecting the, let's say, the impact to be still fading way during H2, or should we expect this only to happen in 2027?
Joni Sandvall
Jyri Luomakoski
Not 100% sure I can follow the impact, what you imply with the impact, that part of the question. Did you, Jussi?
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Yes, Joni. If you talk about delta versus last year, bearing in mind that those actions what we put in place last year, they started to impact second half 2025.
Now when we are entering into second half 2026, they are already in our comparative numbers. Of course, then the delta, when it comes to gross margin, won't be the similar type of thing it has been the first half this year.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
That's okay.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Yeah.
Jussi Siitonen
Joni Sandvall
Okay. I'm just thinking is it still, is the track increasing in H2, or are you seeing easing pressure already from this side?
Joni Sandvall
Jyri Luomakoski
We have not specifically guided individual income statement lines, but as you can certainly recall, last summer, we announced that the focus is on cash flow generation and deleveraging, and as a consequence, we started to curtail production about a year ago. Hence the comps, as Jussi said, are easier in this aspect going forward in the H2.
Jyri Luomakoski
Joni Sandvall
Okay. Thanks.
Going on to Fiskars BA. You have ramped up the marketing as mentioned, but the sales growth has remained muted.
How confident are you actually on the growth side of the Fiskars BA?
Joni Sandvall
Jyri Luomakoski
The growth we see is much coming from the U.S. market and a couple of European, maybe the North European, non-Central European markets, so to speak.
There we clearly see that both with the launches, our brand relevance with new product launches, we've maintained that both to the trade and to the consumers. The consumer confidence type of factor that we have seen in the Central European markets certainly has been negative.
Also, on top of that, we had a year ago on the continent some loyalty campaigns with some big retailers, which we have not been repeating. Those type of campaigns can drive up volume, not in the same proportion, the bottom line, though.
From that perspective, it's visible in the top-line development, but we are not regretting that too much when we live in the end from the profits.
Jyri Luomakoski
Joni Sandvall
Okay. Thanks.
That's clear. Coming on the lower CapEx now in H1, should we expect this to be more structural or is it just near-term, cash-saving action what you have taken?
Joni Sandvall
Jussi Siitonen
Joni, if we take our rolling 12 months CapEx there, which is a proxy for a full year, we are level of EUR 32 million there on rolling 12 months basis. We do have some project going on in the second half, therefore the last year level is probably a bit too high for this year.
Strict CapEx management will continue, and the results should be quite visible for full year basis. Difficult to say that we continue spending the way we did second half last year.
Approximately we are coming down as we guided in Capital Markets Day also. I would say that's a good proxy also for 2026.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
Maybe filling in a bit, building on that. When I look at the CapEx, it's not that we've pushed on any panic button.
There is no single initiative or CapEx program that I would have stopped under the headline that we need to save CapEx. It's more the structural.
It's new product-related tooling has been a big item, some IT related, but that's been more limited now as the separation of the two BAs or so on the ERP level is completed.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Yeah.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
That was driving some part of the historical CapEx and so forth. It's not that we wouldn't do the CapEx that's required to run the business.
In terms of the production, as you have seen, we've been curtailing production, which implies that we have at least enough capacity, if even not somewhat too much. Hence, from that perspective, we haven't had any and don't foresee in the near-term future structural needs for CapEx to increase to accommodate higher level of production as we have those capabilities in place.
Jyri Luomakoski
Joni Sandvall
Okay, perfect. Last one on the visibility.
You mentioned, Jyri, that it's limited, maybe going back to Q1 or from Q1 to Q2, did you say that visibility has improved or worsened when the summer has gone?
Joni Sandvall
Jyri Luomakoski
Well, when there was a ceasefire, we thought that it has improved. As we know, that's, again, history from the recent past that there was a ceasefire around Iran and that war.
It's difficult, of course, to measure per se, but I wouldn't be able really to quantify. No material change maybe is a relevant way to spell it.
Jyri Luomakoski
Joni Sandvall
Okay, thanks. That's all from me.
Joni Sandvall
Operator
As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Maria Wikström from SEB.
Please go ahead.
Operator
Maria Wikström
Hi, this is Maria Wikström from SEB. I wrote some of the questions on the chat box, decided to join in the telephone line so you can discard those from the chat.
I was interested in your thoughts on the global consumer demand, and maybe you need to split it by geographies. First of all, did you see any differences from different months during Q2?
What is your take that would you say that the global consumer demand is currently improving? Or how would you describe currently the consumer appetite, given that you are one of the few consumer companies reporting early the Q2 results?
Thanks.
Maria Wikström
Jyri Luomakoski
Geographically, I think what we communicated around Fiskars is maybe something we can apply on a more broader base. The American consumer appears to be more spending happy than the European one.
While historically we Finns have been the most cautious one always, now it seems that it's more on the continent where the consumer worries are more visible. When we look at the pattern of the quarter, actually, towards the end of the quarter, the growth rate was higher than it was in the middle of the quarter.
From that type of a curvature perspective, it's consistent with those observations. The Asian consumers, and for us, the big markets there are China and Japan, no material change really visible in those markets.
It's been pretty much going according to the manuscript that was made for this year.
Jyri Luomakoski
Maria Wikström
Perfect. Thank you so much for the color.
I had a second question relating to the inventory that if we look on the first half basis, I think your inventory is down some EUR 20 million, which in respect that the inventory value at the end of the Q2 was EUR 340 million is not that big number, given that you have had these measures to take down the inventory level. What do you say?
Do you think you need to take further actions to write down the currently very high inventory level? Or do you still think that you are enabled to move this inventory that you currently have in your balance sheet?
Maria Wikström
Jussi Siitonen
Maria, if I start with about the seasonality of our inventories, and then Jyri can continue with this latter part of your question. What we see is that, of course, second half, as it's so much about Vita and the projected inventory decrease, what we have for this year is very Vita-driven.
Therefore, it's year-end loaded where we should expect the inventories coming down. Year-end loaded here actually means that it's November, December when the big slots should come there when we talk about inventory reductions.
This latter part of your questions, Jyri, if you?
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
You referred to the write-offs. We, of course, analyze the structure of our inventories on a monthly basis and at quarter end, especially half year end, do even more thorough analysis, which also the auditors look carefully through.
Speculating, if we would not be able to reduce the inventory volumes by year end, that could then start to trigger some more provisioning. We do have anyhow already now provisions for excess and obsolete inventory, and it's much in the Vita area where we have some collections that we have discontinued.
For example, end of last year, they are still sellable when you look at the Vita gross margins, and that's the gross margin that's much dominated by our sell-out through wholesale, etc., and events like Black Friday, etc., which are much about making good deals and clearances. Those are, of course, important for us in making sure that the provisions that we currently have also remain adequate end of the year.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Maria, as you can hear from our comments here, we are not talking about Fiskars here. Fiskars inventory levels are in good order, and the way we are producing and selling that goes very in line with plan.
This is very much Vita challenge what we have.
Jussi Siitonen
Maria Wikström
Yes. Thank you.
Was this extraordinary items during the Q2, are they related to the Vita cost savings plan or-
Maria Wikström
Jussi Siitonen
They are predominantly all about this Vita plan we introduced in February this year with a note that EUR 28 million EBIT improvement there, up to 1/3 will be already in 2026. This program will result one-off of roughly EUR 9 million.
Those are now the ones what we have in Q2.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
That's all in the appendix to the release. There is a laundry list of all the items this year and last year.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Exactly.
Jussi Siitonen
Maria Wikström
Finally, about your guidance. You are currently some EUR 3 million ahead from last year on comparable EBIT.
My thinking is here that how much is your guidance based on the underlying improvement in consumer volumes, and then on your result from that, and how much for the Vita turnaround program that you are currently carrying out?
Maria Wikström
Jyri Luomakoski
Given that the guidance is open-ended, your question is somewhat difficult to answer specifically, at least not in the level of detail you would like me to answer it per se. If we are now EUR 3 million ahead, that's true.
That technically is being ahead or improving. We know that we get this SG&A benefit to Vita in H2.
That we know because those actions have been carried out, and the people who had to leave the company have left the company and so forth. It's not in the books, but that I would say it's in the bag per se.
The continued good momentum with our brand relevance charming the consumers every day is still there and is still in force. Yes, it has a component that we can grow, and we have shown that we can grow also profitably in terms of growth is not done by discounting prices.
The gross margin reduction, as Jussi commented, comes solely from the supply chain, let's say, adjustment or right sizing there. It has a component, but year-to-date, the savings and then the belief that we can continue on the good momentum with our offering and the attraction of it to the consumers is giving us the confidence that we can deliver in the end a decent year.
Jyri Luomakoski
Maria Wikström
Thank you. I did not have further questions at this point.
Maria Wikström
Operator
There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.
Operator
Essi Lipponen
Yes. We still have some questions in the chat.
Maybe starting from tariffs. Jyri, maybe if you want to take this one.
What is the situation regarding the potential tariff refunds in the U.S.? Have you received any, or are you expecting to receive something?
When could this happen?
Essi Lipponen
Jyri Luomakoski
That's an excellent question. Our imports are focusing on what the phasing system of this tariff refund is referring as wave two.
Couple of weeks ago, the system actually just opened for entering these refund claims or refund requests and how long that process then takes and what is kind of the approval rate. Rumors tell that customs is very kind of precise that no typos allowed, so to speak.
We know from other companies and have read releases from some U.S. public companies who have been in the wave one, that they have already received papers now in the meanwhile with stamps from the government.
Whether they have received any checks from the Treasury, I'm not sure. They were several couple of months ahead of us in terms of the wave one starting when that system opened for it.
Fairly technical topic and, of course, we hope that we can complete on time the input to this system of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection and then those get processed.
Very difficult and early to assess in detail on that. That's something that we of course oblige to communicate to the market when we know more.
Currently telling that we don't know is somewhat the only thing we can comment. There's a, if not round-the-clock work, but pretty much that ongoing with our U.S.
teams.
Jyri Luomakoski
Jussi Siitonen
Yeah. Exactly, and regarding our guidance, for the sake of clarity, our guidance does not include any refunds from those potential tariffs.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
True.
Jyri Luomakoski
Essi Lipponen
At the moment we have one question and let's see if any others come up, but I will ask the last question for the moment. Jussi, maybe if you take this one.
How did Vita's sales margin develop in Q2 versus last year?
Essi Lipponen
Jussi Siitonen
Sales margin or gross margin?
Jussi Siitonen
Essi Lipponen
That is the question.
Essi Lipponen
Jussi Siitonen
Sales margin.
Jussi Siitonen
Essi Lipponen
Maybe it's gross margin. Sure.
Essi Lipponen
Jussi Siitonen
I think if gross margin I think, Jyri, you went it through already in your presentation.
Jussi Siitonen
Essi Lipponen
Yeah
Essi Lipponen
Jussi Siitonen
It came down very much driven by the supply chain actions what we have in place and also what mentioned here in the call, we haven't taken out any decline there in gross margin due to the sales. If you talk about sales margin only, it stays on the proper level.
The decline is coming from supply chain.
Jussi Siitonen
Essi Lipponen
Thank you. It seems that we don't have any more questions, so thank you for your active participation and I wish you a very nice summer.
Essi Lipponen
Jussi Siitonen
Thank you.
Jussi Siitonen
Jyri Luomakoski
Thank you very much.