Operator
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Welcome to our teleconference after result of three quarter of third quarter of 2025. Our meeting will be divided on the two parts as usually.
One part will be dedicated to the summary of the market situation and also result of Inter Cars in third quarter of 2025. Second quarter we will dedicate for the question from the participants.
Our meeting will be held by the Krzysztof Soszyński, Vice President of the Inter Cars, and Piotr Zamora, Member of the Board, Finance Director of Inter Cars S.A. Please, Krzysztof, Piotr.
Krzysztof Soszyński
Hello, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We will start as usual from description of automotive market.
We will start from aftermarket, our segment of the market. The spare parts market still has development prospects, even though demand remains a challenge and prices are not rising.
Customers are cautious, especially in Central and Eastern Europe, because of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Inter Cars is achieving a high sales growth rate, which gives it a leading position in terms of dynamics in a big companies above €1 billion.
Organic growth has proven more effective than mergers and acquisitions. We can see as well that general situation is similar over the globe, starting from United States and ending on Far East.
If we touch our domestic, the biggest market, used car import started to decline, but still during the first 10 year 10 months is above 800,000 vehicles imported. We see that the age of the car park, especially passenger cars, is, we could say, started to decrease and is all around 12.4 years as average.
It's good because it's exactly our sweet spot to sell the best offer to our customers. Older cars are losing share, which is according to our strategy.
If we touch the sales of the new cars, we see recording increases from January to October. More than 500,000 new cars were registered, what mean a grow 7% year to year.
If we look to the new trends, the Chinese brands is growing up to 10% of the sales of the new cars. As well, something which is as well on a good percentage grow around 8% is the sales of electric cars.
Companies dominate as a buyers. It means 70% of the registrations in July.
New car prices may rise as well this year. This estimation is around 15% year to year.
What we see that the new trends is the presence of Chinese manufacturers, which I mentioned. Still in the share of wallet of car park is limited, but we see as well that it's a huge amount of the brands, but only few are with the leading positions.
We can name them as MG, Omoda, Jaecoo, and BYD. As well, we see that some brands will withdraw from the market, and European manufacturers have not recorded declines in sales.
If we look on Polish market, the Japanese and Korean still are with the big volumes, but they a little bit decrease the sales year to year. If we look for the global OEM perspective, touching the old markets, not including the new Chinese giants which want to rise the market share, the best results for the nine months presenting Toyota.
The second place is Audi, next is Renault, and the fourth place is Ford. What it mean that generally the sales of the new cars is below expectation of the car producers.
They invested a lot in the technology around the EV. Nowadays they need to switch to the need of the different markets, which mean that future is connected with few types of supply.
We see that even by the end of the October was sold around 120,000 electric vehicles in Poland, still it's more slowly grow than were forecast. Automotive companies are once again investing in combustion engine and hybrid technologies, and as anticipating balanced growth in the market.
Something which as well I think many times we mentioned that from one side are ambitions, but from opposite side is as well the possibilities, as well the habits of the people, which you have a big, we could say, subvention, then the sales of electric vehicles can come, but if the people need to pay alone, this is limited. As well, we see that the dominant role is the companies, not the private people to buy.
On the end, I would like to summarize as well the results if the car park not growing as were expected and the sales of the new cars is limited, which is not the case of Poland. We see that as well the parts producers facing some troubles, because as well they invested in these technologies which are not performed well.
Coming back to our market based on the listed companies, we see that the third quarter the first player finished with the loss 4.7% of the market share, the second, GPC, represented in Europe by Alliance, limited grow around one percentage point grow. In third quarter, MEKO, due to the acquisition of Elit Poland, 3.8% grow.
It's the similar grow, which is year to date for the three quarters. We see that based on this data, which are available, the biggest grow is from the side of the Inter Cars, 10.5% in euro for the quarter three and year to date 10%, which is exactly something which we emphasize as a success.
Now I will switch the voice to Piotr, which as well present the results in details and as well the factors of these good results in the quarter three.
Piotr Zamora
Thank you very much, Krzysztof. Hello, everyone.
Good afternoon. A couple of highlights we would like to pay your attention to regarding our financial statements.
In the first quarter of 2025, Inter Cars once again increased its market share and recorded sales of 5.4 billion złoty. This represents a 10% increase over the third quarter of 2024.
If we look on the more cumulative basis after nine months, sales growth reached 8.4%. Our results are increasingly close to the targets we published in connection with the management program implemented by the general shareholders meeting in June 2025.
Whether we going to reach it fully, we cannot confirm it yet, but I think we are getting closer to this target. The target for 2025 is 12%.
I think the answer will be because the trend generally in sales in November is more or less the same what it was in October, but the outcome is really very much dependent on the sales of some segments, especially the seasonal products. What is also important, we would like to emphasize this, that in the third quarter of 2025, Inter Cars sales in Poland accounted for about 38% of group sales, and this tendency continues.
At the end of first half of 2025, sales on domestic market in Poland compared to the total group sales amounted to 39.5%. There's a decrease of 1.5 percentage point over the quarter, and this rapid change simply translates into increasing geographic diversification.
Over the past nine months, we have opened 19 new branches abroad and closed four branches in Poland. Overall, we had 680 branches at the end of September 2025.
What are the factors to which we attribute the success of the third quarter, there are two two main reasons. This is something what Krzysztof mentioned earlier, is the highest sales growth than the competition on local markets, and also improved margin.
This was made possible thanks to maintaining by Inter Cars its competitive advantages. Especially, I would like to mention some of them which are highly appraised by our customers.
Especially, this is the product range, parts availability, convenience of the delivery. That means that our distribution network and logistics plays an important role in the success, and also some other conditions which are highly appraised by our customers.
It's ease of returns and the claim process itself. If we talk about the gross margin, the consolidated gross margin on goods sold for the first three quarters, after eliminating the impact of exchange the rate differences, was 29.3% versus 29.5%, there's a slight decline.
However, if we look only on the gross margin for solely quarter three and we eliminate the exchange rate differences, then the gross margin is exactly on the same level, it's 29.9% as it was last year, and it is the first quarter in which we actually changed the trend of gross margin decline. A key factor, apart from other these factors that I mentioned before influencing margin, was, of course, the scale of Inter Cars operations with individual suppliers, the portfolio of suppliers, and the portfolio of products allowing us to obtain favorable purchasing terms for our customers.
Regarding the level of operating costs, the share of sales and general administrative costs in quarter three 2025 relative to sales revenue amounted to 14.3%, and it was higher than for the same period of the previous year when it was 14%. Obviously, we noted a slight deterioration of this ratio, and it is due to two factors.
Slightly lower sales volume than expected compared to the cost base that we have, and also the second factor is the accumulation of logistics costs, resulting from our efforts to accelerate finalization of some of the logistic projects to obtain earlier benefits coming from optimization of logistic processes. We should be expecting some optimization of logistics costs in quarter three and also in 2026 coming from these expenditures.
At the same time, we, of course, continuously focus on reducing the cost by implementing process optimizations, particularly in the area of logistics, but also in the IT. If we are talking about the financial costs in quarter three, we noted a decrease in these costs, a decrease of 10 million złoty from 44 million in quarter three 2024 down to 34 million złoty in quarter three 2025, and this is primarily due to the capitalization of interest costs on loans financing the investments in robotization.
Regarding the net profit, we achieved an increase of profit of 15% for the entire period of four of nine months. The profit amounted to 238 million złoty, and this is quite a significant achievement considering the once competitive conditions on various markets, but also the impairment loss that we have accounted for the loss of the warehouse in Ukraine.
We have published at the beginning of September the report regarding the attack, actually, of the Russian forces indirectly on the warehouse which was in the neighbor area, and our warehouse caught fire, and unfortunately, we incurred the loss. The inventory turnover rotation was 137 days, exactly on the identical level as it was in the same period of 2024.
I think this is all from my side regarding the comments or highlights on the financial statements for the three quarters or and the third quarter of 2025. I will now pass the voice to Krzysztof to summarize our presentation.
Thank you.
Krzysztof Soszyński
Yes. Thank you, Piotr.
We remain the fastest-growing distributor among market leaders, even as a demand weakens in some CEE regions. Looking ahead to 2025, we see growth potential supported by a resilient aftermarket, especially since the vehicle fleet has historically performed well during downturns.
Market uncertainty may accelerate consolidation, benefiting agile companies like Inter Cars. Rising operating costs are driving this trend, and our early investment in process automation and digitization keeps us at the forefront.
We consider robotic essential. Our Brașov warehouse in Romania is nearly fully robotized, with the transition to the new facility set for September and the old lease ending.
Meanwhile, our logistics center in Zakroczym is expanding with a 235 million Polish złoty investment, automated with Skypod system, of which 92 million has been invested so far. Conversion is expected in Q1 2026.
Additionally, ILS Balkans' new automated warehouse in Brașov, valued at around 250 million Polish złoty, is now operational, further boosting our efficiency with Skypod technology. We believing that based on this kind of situation, variety of the segments, good penetration, and product availability from many brands giving us optimistic future.
We believe that especially demand will flow up and down, and we can use this based on our logistic footprint in 21 markets. Thank you very much, and we switch to answer the questions.
Already we have the first questions. The first question is: Net debt to EBITDA ratio is about 2.
Taking into account capex, Brașov, Zakroczym, should we expect increase in this ratio in 2026?
Piotr Zamora
We expect the slight increase, but it should not go above 2.5, yeah? It should be slightly less, assuming that we expect improvement of the EBITDA also in 2026.
I think the fair expectation would be that it should remain more or less on the level as it is now.
Krzysztof Soszyński
You have already opened 19 branches outside Poland in 2025. What are the plans for 2026?
Any new countries? Special attention to some of the like Germany?
As we discuss as well on the meeting with the Polish investors that generally the first step on the new market is to build the distributors, because our system is based on the kind of it's not one-to-one franchisor model, is kind of deal based on the distribution contract, is something between franchisor and agency. We try always to switch the local players which have the access to the garage.
We believe in this concept. Why the first is to know them, then to choose from them this one which understand our concept and which with motivation and engagement as entrepreneurs can support their growth.
Thanks to this strength, our scalability and the fast development on the market. Which mean that every year we open around this 10 to 20 locations, probably next year naturally would be the case, but in comparison to the number of the locations already we opened, is not a big change and the big capex issue.
Piotr Zamora
The process of opening new branches on the market where we already have a distribution network is very much decentralized, yeah? It's much more dependent on the local country manager and the franchisee partners, and how they see the market growth, yes?
From the point of view of the market share, evidently, we still have quite a big space outside of Poland, especially south of Poland, where generally the market share is around 13% to 16%, so much less than the market share that we have in Poland or, for example, in Lithuania. From this, you can expect that if we assume that the growth will be more or less at the same level as it was in 2025, the same amount of branches should be opened outside of Poland, yeah.
Krzysztof Soszyński
What do you think about as a ESOP for 2025? Sales of 21.7 billion Polish złoty and EBITDA 1.47 billion Polish złoty still possible?
Piotr Zamora
I think we already partially answered this question when we were talking about that we are getting closer to the realization of the sales target. Regarding realization of the EBITDA and versus the LTI plan, currently, if we take the cumulative EBITDA which was published in the report for three quarters, cumulative EBITDA for 12 months at the end of September amounted to 1.376 billion złoty, which is on the level of 95% of the LTI target.
If we even assuming that we do not deliver the results for the quarter four quarter four of 2025 will be on the same level as it was last year, then we will have simply 95% of realization. Hopefully, we will be able to improve our results also in the quarter four of 2025.
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Krzysztof Soszyński
next: Could you disclose prices versus volume trend year on year in quarter three? I think as well we a little bit mentioned that we see less, we could say, declining of the prices, and the gap between turnover and the cost of goods sold is more balanced.
Piotr Zamora
Yes, for the entire group, the difference is 11% growth in units and 10% growth in value. However, it is very much dependent on the country, yeah, because...
Krzysztof Soszyński
The product group.
Piotr Zamora
The product group.
Krzysztof Soszyński
The segment.
Piotr Zamora
For example, in Poland, this difference was about two percentage points only.
Krzysztof Soszyński
What I mentioned that, for instance, the tire business is challenging in some countries. We are benefiting that we are with many countries, we can balance, but we see that generally the winter season because of the weather is challenging.
What we hear from our colleagues, is depends on the weather. When the snow will come and the, we could say, the cold temperature, then for sure it will boom.
As well: Could you elaborate on gross margin in Q4? What trends you are currently seeing?
We think that this what we see in the first three quarters will continue in the fourth quarter. This is our view.
Piotr Zamora
The question mark is about the tires, which seems that in the sell-in in purchasing the overall on the market there's a 4% increase, for example, in Poland, while we have noted a significantly better results. The issue is with the sell-out, the distributors are stocked with the tires.
We will see what happens. This is a question mark.
It also depends on the weather conditions, which are out of our control, obviously.
Krzysztof Soszyński
Krzysztof mentioned that prices in Poland are not increases, any trends of the changing in the near future? I think that is understanding of our competitors what they have in the figures on P&L.
If they face that the results on a net profit are even worse than the last year, I think that they will change mind not to decrease the prices. The first symptom is still to have a big growth, but we see that the growth of the market is limited.
I think the companies which are small, they only can play in the niche, thinking about the bigger prices less turnover. If they would continue, the consolidation will be even faster.
Could you provide us with the progress on opening German market? As we discuss, we are growing in German market double digit, but is the building of the distribution.
Means that the first is in each of the Länder to have a many distributors, then to learn them Inter Cars and the model of our distribution based on this concept of the three partners, and then switching them. For sure next year we will open the first location to the testing the value we can bring to the garage, but the first is that we need to have the ready IT.
It's on the way, but this is not something which we want to be very fast, because for us the German market is important, and based on the growth double digit this year, we need to be aware how to do this on efficient way. We have a German team, we build the team, we extend the sales representatives on the local market on the book of German company, and we believe that we will do this slowly, but on effective way.
Next question is: Additionally, at the start you mentioned, if I'm not mistaken, 7% year-to-year increase in new registration, 10 of the new cars are Chinese, 8% share of electric. All those data related to Poland?
Yes, I spoke about the Poland, but as well I mentioned the global growth of some of the producers. Like this year, if we point about the global, the biggest growth from old giants is Toyota, 7.7% for three quarters.
The next was Audi, 4.6. Next was 3.7 Renault, and Ford.
This are data globally. The data which as well we use for looking on the local markets always are from Polish market as well is giving us kind of insight of Central Eastern European car park, because smaller markets are in many cases similar, maybe not Czech Republic, where is a very big influence of Volkswagen Group, but in other markets this flow is similar, why we as well always try to see the description of the biggest steel market for the group.
What as well as the data that Chinese brands in the sales of the new cars, they are about 5% of the cake in European markets, which means that it's not tendency only on the Polish market. If you look on the global footprint, BMW is not giving a good results, but in Poland is one of the brand which is gaining the market.
Which means that these changes or all the we could say, the market, we need to make analysis market by market. On our meetings, it's not possible, but we always try to see the global picture and then local picture.
The same we compare as a Inter Cars our competitors based on segments, while if we are on 21 markets and then we go to its segments and then look only on three our competitors would be much more difficult to make any comments on this kind of the meeting. We try to show the trends and the general input from the biggest our market and then influence for the capital group.
This is the way of our idea how we present this kind of summary of each of the quarter. Next is: Total capex for Zakroczym Skypod project is about 235 million, and accumulated investment till September amounted to 92.
More than 140 million should be in 2026 from the robotization.
Piotr Zamora
No, actually, the capex for the Phase 2 in Zakroczym was around 250, and it's going to be completed in 2025. Next year, the capex that we are planning to invest is solely related to the investment in the new warehouse in Stęszew in the western part of Poland, which is correlated with the both, with the sales to the West, mainly to the Germany, but also increasing demand, because currently, even Zakroczym, the main warehouse, is at certain limits of its operations, we need regional warehouse in the western part of Poland.
Krzysztof Soszyński
I was not precise, because we found that the Zakroczym is not anymore good place to scale the business, because of the efficiency in one place by the number of the people. We call internally that in Poland we will have a three places as a one place as a Zakroczym divide to the three zones which make playing role in the logistic in the future.
It's the Stęszew and the Sosnowiec on the south, but we will not increase anymore the Zakroczym, because it's no any studies which prove us the financial guidelines to do this. We believe that much better solution is to split and extend, or we could say, convert the midi-hub in west of the Poland as extension of the Zakroczym for the northwest part of Poland and the west.
Piotr Zamora
Maybe it's worth emphasizing, Krzysztof, that in case of Zakroczym, we are already at the scale of operations that we are afraid that if we go beyond, we will not have economies of scale, but it will lead to rather un-efficient processes. The second point is that we have a warehouse in the south in Sosnowiec, which supports operations of Poland, but also supports the operations of the countries located south of Poland.
This warehouse is located in the premises for which the lease contract ends in 2027. Now we are currently in the process of looking for the next location for this warehouse.
Given this, we are not able to implement robotization in this warehouse. That's why we need the third warehouse, which will be located in Stęszew, which I mentioned.
The investment will be spent over two years in 2026 and 2027. Each year we going to spend around 300 million złoty for this investment, yes?
Overall 600 million złoty.
Krzysztof Soszyński
Okay. Are there any questions?
Operator
Yes, we have also the question: What EBITDA margin improvement in basis points can be expected in 2026 from the robotization?
Krzysztof Soszyński
As well you can look to this LTI, because I think that for them exactly 2025, '6, and '7, we published these data and we would like to be in this brackets, yes?
Piotr Zamora
We've already made public information about the amount of logistic savings coming from these three robotization investments. We expect in 2026 the savings in logistic costs amounting to between 70 and 80 million złoty annually, yes?
You can actually compare it to the EBITDA, which is included in our LTI program for 2026. The EBITDA is 1.6 billion złoty, yeah?
This is the expectation.
Krzysztof Soszyński
If we do not have any additional questions, of course, we are always open for the dialogue. Thank you for today teleconference, results of three quarters 2025, and see you next quarter.
Thank you
Piotr Zamora
for your attendance
Krzysztof Soszyński
and attention to our presentation.
Piotr Zamora
Thank you very much.
Operator
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Thank you and see you after the result of fourth quarter.
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