Bank Polska Kasa Opieki S.A.

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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptApril 30, 2026

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome at the presentation of the financial results for the first quarter. We have Cezary Stypułkowski, CEO; Vice President responsible for Finance, Dagmara Wojnar; Vice President for Risk Division, Marcin Gadomski; and Ernest Pytlarczyk, Chief Economist of the bank.

Over to Cezary.

Cezary Stypułkowski

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. The first quarter was successful for the bank.

We recorded net profit at 1.2 billion PLN. We feel a revival of credit action both in retail and in corporate market, maybe excluding mortgage loans, but that's a separate topic.

We see an increasing digitization of Bank Pekao S.A. clients who historically followed the market with respect to this trend, and capital position remains very strong.

I would like to stress here that we maintain low level of risk costs, although we assume that there might be a certain increase here. Anyway, the boundaries within which we move were defined more broadly than the current actuals.

We see 11% growth in loan lending covering various categories. Return on equity continues at a decent and expected level.

Cost-to-income ratio is not set in stone in connection with the need to inject capital in the bank, but stays at almost 30.5%, excluding the effects of burdens of the first quarter, mainly in relation to the contributions to the fund for banking stability. We see the developments that relate to the principal lines in which Pekao S.A.

has been not sufficiently invested, in particular with regard to micro market, but the bank overall remains its strong position. It is worth stressing here that, basically in all business lines, we see growing income.

That is excellent news, because commissions inflows for the last 18 months have been growing, and that applies to many areas of activity. To the largest extent, that follows from the developments in asset management market, but also in other business lines we have seen an increase in revenues from commissions, which are extremely valuable to us.

In terms of sales and retail, growth has been recorded. In corporate banking, now we see particular robust income because the market is active, and in particular large companies benefit from the funding that drive this process.

I'm talking about this recovery and resilience program. This scale is slowly diminishing.

We are generally on track with pursuing all our targets. We announced 75% dividend distribution, which will be paid out relatively soon.

A number of events took place; I will not dwell on these. As for retail, where Pekao S.A.

continues to be a serious contender to get a position among the top banks in Poland in terms of customer base, service range, and quality range, we are getting more and more visible, occupying increasing space. Our clients who use Mastercard can now use Live Nation, and they can get privileged access to concerts and tickets to other popular events.

We haven't managed to send our team to World Cup, but Pekao S.A. can send some of its clients to be spectators at the matches because we can afford that as rewards for using our cards.

I will not discuss all those details regarding the ways of offering our services or accelerating modernization of the bank. Streamlining of client onboarding, that's something that we have been doing remotely.

A really major things that are worth talking about is the fact that we were the first bank that, together with BGK, allowed clients to apply for de minimis security, mainly to medium and small enterprises. We also played a major role in BGK projects concerning defense spending.

We also have a strong foothold there, so that allows BGK faster and more efficient relationship with their clients. As for the number of active clients who use remote channels, first of all, mobile channels, this number is systematically growing.

We attach a lot of importance to that. We lagged behind and we had a lot to catch up on, but here things are improving.

Also, cash loans are growing, cash loans that are sold digitally, and for this category of products, that's a very important parameter. We had a few spectacular transactions in the first quarter.

They are enumerated in the presentation, I will not discuss them in detail. Maybe apart from mentioning the fact that we signed an agreement with airports, the consortium included three banks, and that was funding for the extension of Okęcie Airport and the participation of PPL in the construction of a new infrastructure for air traffic in Poland.

Over to my colleague.

Ernest Pytlarczyk

When we talk about macro segment, we should start with the war in the Persian Gulf, USA-Israel war against Iran. This war has a certain impact on our forecasts.

For the time being, the revisions of projections for Europe are not major. Poland distinguishes itself here against the European background.

It has some domestic growth drivers. The channels of impact of this higher oil price is through consumers.

As long as consumers feel no immediate shortages, this crisis is not really Eurocentric. We tried to see the increase of energy prices in Europe.

That was not really significant enough to make this crisis Europe-centric. The US is more affected by this.

Nevertheless, some adjustments for Poland are needed. We will see this influence mainly through consumption, because probably the real disposable income will decline.

One important component of GDP should be watched carefully. We know that consumers respond very badly to overall European inflation by reducing the consumer spending.

We see the developments in monetary aggregates. Lower interest rates are affecting both corporate market and households right now.

Volumes growth in loan market is something that we can see, and that will develop. We will see two-digit growths in corporate loans, and the accumulation falls in this year.

There will be even more spending on defense. For the time being, that's 20%, maximum 30%, and that share will gradually grow.

Also, there was deferred demand for mortgage loans, refinancing. Now it's about 30% of new production.

That accounts for refinancing. The portfolio that is at fixed interest rates relies on this.

If the current interest rates is higher than 1 percentage points than at the interest rate at which the loan was granted, that has to drive the market, and that will drive the transition of customers between competing banks. As for interest rates and inflation, today 3.2% inflation last month.

The number was lower than expected by analysts, but that is due to how statistics treats the impact of fuel prices. I think there will be no major impact on the calculations of the Ministry of Finance and taxes.

However, it will have implications for the trajectory of interest rates. We talked about three reductions in the market this year.

Now the market is looking at increases. The rates might remain unchanged this year, but one way or another, we will see a real impact on banks.

Decent credit action already shows that this will affect Poland. Now economists estimate that the impact will be neutral for Poland.

Neutral meaning that if there are the right catalysts in place, we will see the development both in corporate and in retail market. The environment seems likely to be good for the banks, with volumes and high interest rates.

Dagmara Wojnar

Good morning. Now a few words about our results.

We talked about us wanting to grow and accelerate. The growth of loans was two-digit in the first quarter, 11%.

Let me start with corporate loans. We said in 2025 that we were in for a growth in loans in corporate market, and that would translate into the results of Pekao.

Indeed, the corporate loans are growing both in larger corporate sector with over 16% and in mid and SME almost 14%. It is also relevant that we acquire new customers in mid and SME segments.

That's over 990 new clients that we added recently. In retail, if we look at Pekao S.A., we said that we were underweighted in cash loans.

That was one of our strategic products, and this is the area in which we want to push this growth a bit stronger. That is another consecutive quarter where we have a two-digit grow of cash loans.

It is excellent news to us that most of cash loans are sold in remote channels. That is one of the elements of our strategy, to make sure that those remote channels develop as well as possible.

The CEO mentioned mortgage loans. We are at slightly less than 3% growth year of year.

Going further, savings deposits, 5% growth both in terms of retail and corporate. Now regarding the structure, it is changing slightly here, because compared to last year, we have more current accounts.

It's about 75%. Last year, they accounted for 72%.

We open accounts as well. We have opened over 113 accounts, premium and beneficial, and 30% out of the new ones are for young customers.

We call them young, that is up to 26 years of age. One more thing about investment funds.

As we all know, taking the war that's ongoing, most TFIs have witnessed some significant disruptions. We have been able to get shielded from that, and our loss has been relatively small.

The analysis of the situation tells us that this is mainly due to the profile of our customers and the funds. The dominating types are low investment risk funds.

Just as a formality, let me say that LCR is 238, loan-to-depo 68%. Now going further to the NIM and net interest income is lower by 100 million, 3% year-on-year.

We know that we have been functioning in the environment of decreasing interest rates. When we talk about our net interest margin, this is 30 basis points lower year-by-year, with an average three-month WIBOR of almost 200 basis points lower year-on-year.

Looking at our margin here, the net interest margin, well, we can say that we are able to defend it quite well. What has impacted that?

The active deposit policy on the one hand, but on the other hand, we are seeing growing volumes, you have seen that, loans, SMEs in and mid sector. Also looking deeper, we are continuing our hedging policy.

Plus, there's one more component here. I said about that earlier.

We repriced the portfolio of our less beneficial securities to replace them with more beneficial, more profitable ones. Interest rates decrease translates into a 15 basis point decrease in NIM.

Going further, charges and commissions, this is a two-digit growth, 13.3%, the growth in commission income. That's, I think, historical high quarter to quarter, comparing one year to another.

You can see that the growth in commission is visible in all the categories. You can see commissions on managing brokerage services, but we also see commissions on cards and loans growing.

That's a result of our growing activity and the increase in the loan portfolio. One more component that has contributed to this outcome is what we talked about earlier.

In November 2025, we said we were going to change the charges and commissions tariff for retail customers. This has in fact happened, quarter one of 2026 is the first full quarter that illustrates the outcome of this increase and illustrates that.

Now for costs, operating costs, 7.4% increase year-on-year. You need to distribute them into two components.

Those are overheads, personal costs, increase of 4%, and that, of course, has to do with inflation and increased remunerations. On the other hand, you have depreciation and amortization, and we were signaling earlier that these costs could increase.

That's the outcome of the bank's transformation, increased IT costs, project costs, new strategy, slightly more active marketing activity. Like I said, this increase is slightly bigger.

It is worth saying that quarter one has also witnessed the BFG and the Financial Supervision Authority charges included, and that's more than half of our basic costs in quarter one. We know that BFG is also recognized in quarter one, the effect will not be seen in the following quarters.

Over to Marcin, please.

Marcin Gadomski

Thank you, Dagmara. Good morning, everyone.

As you can see, the cost of risk remains stable. We are moving more or less in the range of 30 to 50 basis points, and we have been seeing that for a long time.

It's below the 65-75 bps, which is what we've written in our strategy. What we can observe and what is also something that we've been seeing for a few quarters now is that exceptionally low risk costs in the retail segment.

The market situation is very good on the labor market. There is realistic growth in remuneration, which means that, well, with slightly stunned consumption, we are not seeing a consumption boom, the loan capacity is quite a good level.

Now, in corporate part, the cost of risk is more normalized compared to what we saw earlier when we look at long-term trends. This is also reflected in the economic indicators.

In 2022-2024 or early 2025, we observed the number of non-profitable enterprises, well, this was a historically good ratio. This resulted from various support measures that were put in place.

Right now, these indicators reflect more the long-term trends, I would say. We are obviously observing the Hormuz Strait situation and how it impacts our portfolio.

We do not see any alarming signs right now. However, highly energy consumption industries that use gas or diesel transport, ceramics, chemical industries, see the outcome.

On the other hand, we're also looking at industries that perhaps can be indirectly impacted by the crisis, more specifically industries such as textile, furniture, electronics, and perhaps an interesting fact here: the second group potentially sees the impact translate into financials faster because some chemicals or plastics are more expensive, and the demand for these products is mainly placed in Western Europe, and it has not really deviated for a number of years, you can see that reflected in their outcomes. Now, when you look, we have a stable indicator of 4.5% of NPL.

Let me also mentioned CdI and ED. As for a few months, these are criteria that condition to pay the dividend, NII, and it has quite a good buffer of more or less 10%, which impacts the ability to pay the dividend.

Now, moving back to Dagmara.

Dagmara Wojnar

A quick look on the net profit generation path in first quarter of 2026 and comparing it to last year. As we said earlier, we made a profit of 1 billion 232, something that's worth mentioning is that there is an outcome of commission that contributes 100 million plus.

The interest rate net outcome is negative, but there are two elements: dropping interest rates on the one hand, and increased volumes of net-on-net, and that actually gives us a negative impact of 100 million there. What I said earlier, BFG contribution quarter by quarter, they're higher, 110.

Let's remember that in 2026, we are seeing an increased CIT rate, which also translates into 100 million in our results. Now, a few words about the capital, the equity.

Not much has changed. Strong capital position.

The CEO has mentioned 75% of net profit is something that we're going to pay out in the dividend. This proposal will be presented to our management.

We are in compliance with MREL requirements. Two things that I wanted to stress here: number one is we are updating the prospectus right now.

You can expect up to two issues of MREL this year benchmark in euros, and we are planning also in late 2026 or early 2027 to implement, roll out the first securitization in the bank's history and in the group's history. Right now, over to the CEO.

Cezary Stypułkowski

There's not much I can add, really. Essentially, everything's been said.

I think we will put ourselves in your hands and respond to questions. Many people are willing to say that this is our logo, but we were given that as the most dividend-paying institution in the stock exchange in 20 in 35 years.

This is the accumulation of the bank's results. If there are any questions later on, please do not hesitate to contact us.

We will take them all. We've got a few people in the room.

Please raise your hand if you want to take floor.

Sobiesław Kozłowski

Sobiesław Kozłowski, good day. You have lowered the GDP forecast by 2 by 0.2 percentage points.

Could that translate into the loans and the cost of risk? My question refers to the context of the Middle East.

Do you see potential implications of this uncertainty?

Cezary Stypułkowski

Okay. That could not be the last word, we are saying, with the decreases, right?

We're not sure what's happening, what's going to happen. When we see the mechanics, there are very simple dependencies.

It all depends on how long the Hormuz Strait will be closed, right? That impacts the prices.

Luckily, they're not shooting one another, they're not destroying infrastructure. Perhaps the markets are not panicking yet.

It's a question of how many vessels are there and how much stock there is. When we look at the stock exchange, well, we're looking at this impacting the oil prices.

Now, as an economist, I can see that a lot of the factors are local and internal. Both IMF and the European Commission has the highest forecasts for growth for Poland, I don't think we're quite that exposed.

You need to be humble, on the other hand. You need to acknowledge that this is a significant geopolitical factor, and it will impact the consumer.

We are saying that already we've seen one or two months right now where perhaps the impact is not so major, because it's the issue of end of winter production for reserve, but this will definitely become apparent and result in some sort of an adjustment. We're not panicking quite yet.

There could be quite different outcomes. What Ernest has said, definitely the world was moderately better prepared to face these events, and they happened when the heating season was ending.

When we take into account the fact that the unblocking the strait is key, but we don't know really how big a capacity has been excluded due to the losses incurred, right? That concerns both the Middle East and Russia.

What's comforting in this context is that, well, hitherto, OPEC limited the production quota to specific countries, and they were different. There's an additional capacity that has been kept.

Also, Europe gets some 20-30% of its oil from Middle East. I think greater squeeze can be felt on gas than on oil, because at the moment, supplies to Europe of oil account for about 40% US and Norway.

That comes from this direction. About 50% of gas from the US and Norway.

Frankly, I'm most concerned about the fact that, in the US, against the backdrop of an increase in fuel prices, there might be a situation related to unpredictable customs policy that leads to a customs explosion. They might want to introduce some change of price of gas at the pump.

Maybe not dramatically, but it can impact Europe, because the capacity for availability, if we are blocked from Russian market and US market gets blocked, will mean a major issue for us. After 1983 and 1989, we felt a certain change in terms of dependence on Middle East oil.

It was then that reserves were built up. The energy agency was established, and everybody tried to build up 90-day stock.

The circumstances back in the day were different. Back then, there was a unilateral withdrawal of supplies, suspension of oil to the Netherlands, I think, and at the same time, monthly supplies were reduced.

Now we are talking about a possible blockage, plus an even more concerning matter, namely the scale of destruction that has taken place in the gas infrastructure. The destruction seems to have been bigger than in oil supplies, and the gas is more centered.

There is a smaller number of suppliers of liquid gas. If that comes to pass, obviously it may not remain neutral, but we are very far away from this scenario yet.

What seems clear now is that the markets opt for a stabilization scenario. Sometimes situation develops from news to news.

Sobiesław Kozłowski

What about distillates? They no longer fetch maximum prices.

Cezary Stypułkowski

Probably there will be quite a few variable elements. As Ernest very aptly put it, the adjustment might not be the last one.

There might be more developments.

Sobiesław Kozłowski

Thank you very much. Another question.

On page 18, you show a pretty slide. Could you please comment on which direction this structure might potentially go to?

The change of interest rates, 15% of assets and your exposure. Could you add a commentary on this, how you see the evolution in this regard?

Cezary Stypułkowski

All right, let me put it this way: 100 basis points decrease translates into 15% decrease in NIM. Frankly, the capacity for absorption is slowly coming to an end.

We still do have some room of maneuver on deposits. However, as of now, I would assume the figures as presented in the slide.

Our policy is that of securing our balance sheet. We measured our sensitivity to interest rates, and after this type of assessment of our assets, we get secure balance sheet.

Also, we increased some short-term hedging in one-year and two-year timeline. Otherwise, it's as Dagmara said.

Let me also remind you that if we look at the results for 2025 compared to say market information that was published, the impact of the decrease of interest margin in Pekao S.A. was relatively minor.

As I said, the possibilities for further absorption are diminishing.

Operator

We have two questions that were asked online. One is about housing loans and the scale of refinancing of this portfolio.

The balance is stable, and quarter-to-quarter it even slightly goes down, with sales that look quite well. There is a question about the scale of funding and how we see the upcoming months.

Cezary Stypułkowski

With reference to what Ernest said in the macroeconomic introduction, it seems that the market overall, and we do not differ from the market. Maybe we are not so aggressive in refinancing as other banks.

That is now about 25% of production, the refinancing among banks. Probably if we refer to new production, you have to add an extra 10%, which is not shown as refinancing.

Nevertheless, the banks reduce the interest rates on fixed interest rate loans. That follows from retention campaigns, which are often based on annexing existing contracts rather than new production and new contracts.

We had a peak point in our bank in March, and since the crisis in the Hormuz Strait started, the prices have increased, and quite significantly refinancing was slowed down as a result. Clearly, that depends very much on interest rates.

From the perspective of market analytics, the spread of 1% between the rate at which the loan was granted and the current rate in fixed interest loans is something that facilitates most refinancing activities. We can also analyze vintage data on interest rates and spreads to which refinancing applies.

Also, in our case, we differ from most of the sector. We have this safe loan, 2%, which is not susceptible to the risk of refinancing.

The second question is about the free loan sanction in the context of this recent judgment of the European Court. The judgment was issued a week ago, and this judgment is linked to the admissibility of charging interest on non-interest costs of loans.

If we look at Polish market, probably we will not find an established line of interpreting of this judgment, we'll have to wait for lawyers to develop this interpretation. If we look at numbers, this topic, and that's something that we also covered in our financial statement in the first quarter, there were more than 1,700 court proceedings, and the total value was 48 million.

Of that, 165 cases ended with legally binding rulings, and in 143 of those cases, the rulings were positive for our group. We also have this disclosure in our financial statement that we will follow the development of jurisprudence in Poland and interpretation of rulings related to those loans, and we will respond as appropriate to new developments.

As of now, we cannot do much more than just disclose the current status in our financial statement and watch closely future developments. We also have a question about the CIT impact.

Was there also the effect of revaluation of assets from deferred tax? No, this year we did not include that in our recognized tax.

We reassessed the asset when a regulation was issued that CIT would be higher from 2026. The full effect of revaluation of CIT and deferred impact was included in 2025.

We did it as a provision. I do not see any more online questions.

Are there any questions in the room? If not, thank you very much.

Thank you. See you next time.