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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 4, 2026

Moderator

Hello and welcome to Apotea's Q4 presentation. We will have a short presentation on the numbers and the events in the quarter followed by a Q&A.

Today's presenters are Pär Svärdson, CEO and co-founder, and myself, Johan Möller, CFO.

Pär Svärdson

Hello. We have had a good 2025 with a stable growth and a good profitability.

If we look at Q4 isolated, as we mentioned before, the profitability was a little bit weak. Please, Johan, show us the figures.

Johan Mårild

Yes. We had revenues in the quarter of 1 billion 854 million Swedish krona and a growth of 7%.

We had a weak profitability in the quarter, an EBIT margin of 1.3%. As we go through the numbers, we will share more details on that in the presentation.

Pär Svärdson

Short quarterly update. During the quarter, we have started to shift focus from internal to external and launched a lot of growth initiatives.

We have also successful ramped up our facility in Varberg. Now we are actually above 20,000 order in just one day.

We also started to upgrade our e-commerce platform and the reason for that is to be able to launch a lot of new sales-related initiatives like AI and so on on our platform. I look forward to that.

Johan...

Johan Mårild

Yes, we had, with the growth of 7% in the quarter, we now have rolling 12 months revenues of 7.2 billion Swedish and an adjusted EBIT margin for '25 of 4.2%. Let's take a closer look on the growth in the fourth quarter.

The growth was of 7% in the quarter and was impacted by an internal focus during '25, as mentioned, and as related to launching the new fulfillment center in Varberg and also scaling up that. To the right, you can see our gross margin development, and we had a lower gross margin in Q4 of 24.8%.

The gross margin was impacted by factors related to the fourth quarter, such as campaign sales and additional purchasing-related cost, which partly affected by the ramp-up in Varberg. Q4 has always been an intense campaign-intense period with Black Friday.

It tends to increase year after year. This year, we had more campaign sales and also lower campaign-related margin.

We had additional purchasing-related cost to related to Varberg. An example of that, and that is related to calibrating the purchases for our new logistics centers, and examples of that is that restock products at a higher price from wholesalers and also having products in stock that is later discounted, which is the case for some of the RX assortment specific to each month.

Profitability was down in Q4 compared to a year ago, as mentioned, adjusted EBIT margin of 1.3%. It was impacted not only by the lower gross margin, but also increased depreciation.

To the right, you can see our operating cost and D&A in percentage of revenue. As you can see, depreciation increased in percentage of sales close to 1 percentage units in Q4.

However, all other operating costs were down, and that was due to our ongoing efficiency work at Apotea related to logistics and elsewhere.

Pär Svärdson

If we look at 2025, we have had a transformative year. We started the year with all this AI initiative that we continued through the year.

We have also launched a new hub in South of Stockholm in Årsta, and launched in the third quarter our Varberg facility and scaled it up during the fourth quarter. It's been a lot of work this year with, as Johan said, this internal focus.

Johan Mårild

Yes, for looking at the full year '25, we had revenues of 7 billion 203 million Swedish krona and an adjusted EBIT margin of 4.2%. The adjustments in '25 was roughly 6 million krona in Q4, and in '24, we had 24 million of adjustments, and that was related to the cost associated with the IPO in December '24.

We had good growth in '25. We had a growth of 10.1% in '25, and the growth of last year was driven by RX.

Last year, as well as many of the other years in Apotea's history, we saw a strong growth in RX. Last year, RX grew by 13.4%, and that growth was due to a strong underlying demand to buy prescription medicines online, as well as our work to increase capacity in this area.

We now employ more than 200 pharmacists. To the right, you can see our gross margin development, and that was stable '25 compared to '24.

We had a good profitability '25 and an adjusted EBIT margin of 4.2%, and that was well within our financial targets. We did manage to have this good profitability despite additional costs related to the new fulfillment center in Varberg.

To the right, you see our operating cost breakdown in percentage of revenue. Also looking at the full year, you can see that we managed to improve our efficiency.

We had strong operating cash flow '25. However, in Q4 isolated, we had a weaker cash flow, and that was due to the payment of automation-related invoices related to Varberg due in Q4.

Pär Svärdson

The final payment as well.

Johan Mårild

The final payment. Q4 cash flow related to changes in working capital.

As you can see to the right, we had significant investments in '25, and the investments last year of 250 million was mainly related to the new fulfillment center in Varberg. We have now completed that investments, and going forward, we expect significantly lower investments, and these investments going forward will be related to our existing warehouses and our work to continue improve our efficiency.

As mentioned, Q4 cash flow was impacted by changes in net working capital. As you can see, account payables declined in December compared to September.

There are natural variations in the working capital, and they they will fluctuate from time to time. Looking at the inventory turnover, we had an inventory turnover of 8.7 time, which is high and and affected by slightly down a year compared to a year ago, which also due to the build-up of inventory in in Varberg.

We have a solid financial position and high return on capital employed, return on capital employed of 29.2% in '25, somewhat down from a year ago, and that is due to the increased assets related to the new fulfillment center in Varberg. Looking on the right-hand side of this slide, you can see that we have a net cash position as of December, and that is despite the significant investments in new capacity related to Varberg.

A solid financial position and a solid balance sheet.

Pär Svärdson

If we look on our focus ahead, we will continue to build the pharmacy of tomorrow, but shift the focus, as we said before, from internal to external and start a lot of new growth initiatives. One example of that is that we have hired Johanna Hummel as a Chief Growth Officer.

She will work with our projects to work with our customer and improve our customer journey. She will also work to launch a new site in Norway to sell our beauty and health assortment under the brand Apotea.no.

We will deliver these orders from our new facility in Varberg. That will be very good both for a cost profile and for the customer.

We will also continue to scale up our Varberg facility and work more hours. We start working weekends and evenings quite soon.

Johan Mårild

Yes, as you can see in the report, the board of director propose a dividend to be resolved at the annual general meeting in May. Apotea has a long track record of share dividends, and the proposed dividend is based on the solid financial position of Apotea despite significant investments.

Yes, and with that, we are done with the presentation and open up for Q&A.

Pär Svärdson

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Johan Fred from SEB. Please go ahead.

Johan Fred

Good morning, Pär and Johan, and thank you for taking my questions. A first one on the sales development throughout the quarter, more specifically.

From your earlier release, I interpreted as November had a slow start and that sales in December were weak. Still, you grew sales by 7%, which should we interpret this as just that you saw a large inflow of orders in later November, assuming sort of October was in line with expectations?

Could you elaborate on sort of the sales development throughout the quarter, please?

Pär Svärdson

I can start, Johan, fill in. We can see from year to year that Black Friday now is not Black Friday, it's Black Week, and some e-commerce shops have more like Black Month.

Our customers are waiting until Black Week or something before they shop. That makes it more hard to have a decent gross margin in November.

People wait and shop during Black Friday, Black Week, and they don't shop in the beginning of December. It's a little bit problematic in Q4, but it's isolated to Q4.

Yeah. Was that an answer, Johan, or anymore?

Johan Fred

You received a disproportionate amount of orders in the middle to end of November, is that correct?

Pär Svärdson

Yeah. As mentioned, we have had higher campaign sales share in Q4.

Johan Fred

Uh-huh. Sort of how much of this volume was shipped from Morgongåva versus Varberg during sort of peak season in late November?

Pär Svärdson

Most part was sent from Morgongåva due to very large order and a smaller assortment in Varberg because of this fill-up. That made the cost a little bit higher because we couldn't really manage to send so many orders from Varberg because of the large number of SKUs in every order.

Johan Fred

Yeah. Cool.

Sort of on the competitive environment in Q4, it was clearly intense. Do you think that the higher promotional activity was specifically related to the Black Week/Christmas period?

Or are you seeing a broader sort of consumer softness continuing into Q1 in 2026?

Pär Svärdson

I think it's quite related to Q4.

Johan Fred

Very clear. Finally, on the weaker gross margin, any chance that you can elaborate on the sort of margin declined by 2.2 percentage points, I believe.

How much is this related to lower product margins from higher campaign pressure? How much is, as you mentioned, relating to higher fulfillment costs in Morgongåva and also, of course, the additional procurement-related costs in Varberg, as you mentioned?

Pär Svärdson

I would say that there are of course If you have a large assortment, there are 50,000 reasons for the gross margin. The two main reasons are an increased share of campaign sales and lower campaign margin, and the other is the kind of restocking and purchasing-related cost.

Out of those two, I would say that they are kind of fairly even, these two factors. Then there are others factors as well, of course, but these are the main factors.

Mainly related to factors in the fourth quarter.

Johan Fred

Those two are more prevalent than say higher fulfillment cost from you having to ship more volume from Morgongåva, is that correct?

Pär Svärdson

I don't see that necessarily kind of where we ship the items has an impact on the gross margin per se. We don't have the kind of It's more like tuning in.

If you buy campaign items to one stock and get out of stock and you repurchase, we have to work with optimization between the warehouses. I think we failed a little bit on that.

Johan Mårild

Yeah. For example, the restocking is that, if you're out of stock, you haven't done the purchasing properly or good enough.

That's, of course, more complex to do if you have two centers to fulfill rather than just one. If you're kind of low on stock or out of stock, then you kind of may be forced to buy from wholesalers at a higher price and then also have the kind of, yeah.

I think we can call it a start-up cost, because it's not like a structured cost or something. It's more like you have to learn how to do it in a proper way.

Johan Fred

Got it. Got it.

A final one from me, then. Now you mentioned that you're now starting to ship products to Norway from Varberg.

I believe that you previously said that this wasn't possible due to regulations. What has changed there?

Pär Svärdson

We are launching a beauty and health assortment, not the medicine assortment. It's not a pharmacy.

It's more health and beauty. Our Norwegian subsidiary, Apotea, has a comprehensive pharmacy assortment in Norway.

In addition to this pharmacy assortment, they will also operate Apotea.no and sell beauty and health products that is shipped from Varberg via Apotea to the Norwegian customer.

Johan Fred

Got it. Essentially, you're starting a new subsidiary that handles the beauty and health category.

Pär Svärdson

Yeah.

Johan Fred

Cool. Got it.

Those were all my questions for now. Thank you so much for taking the time.

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Victor Hansen from DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Victor Hansen

Hi, Pär and Johan. Thanks for taking my questions.

Just a bit of a follow-up on some of the previous questions here. Starting with competition, seems to have been very tough in Q4 from what we can read in the market.

You mentioned that this impacted your gross margins. Pär, you also mentioned, you just spoke about it here as well, that the gross margin effects are, to a large extent, isolated to Q4, you say.

We know that several pharmacy and beauty competitors have recently built new, highly automated fulfillment capacity. Why should the tough competition ease in Q1?

Pär Svärdson

I think we see strong competition going forward as well. I think it's good for us because we love competition, and I think we will be stronger and more profitable and grow faster with strong competition because it help us as a company.

Johan Mårild

We always want to have attractive prices, but we don't feel an increased pressure to lower our prices even more or kind of change in that dynamic.

Victor Hansen

Okay. You expect less price pressure in Q1 than in Q4?

Johan Mårild

This Black Week, everyone has campaign at the same time with very high discounts. It's more like a phenomenon rather than a competition problem.

Victor Hansen

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. The second part of your gross margin weakness, you mentioned the additional procurement-related costs in Varberg.

Could you elaborate a bit more on what this means more precisely? If you could quantify it?

Johan Mårild

If you buy, fill up the warehouse, you have on RX, you have different prices in different months. They go up and down, and if you buy them in the wrong month, they are much more expensive.

That one example. Another example, if you buy for a campaign and we ship 50% to Varberg, 50% to Morgongåva, and we don't deliver 50/50, we need to resupply them maybe at a higher price or we don't have stock in Morgongåva and we need to ship it from Morgongåva, and then we can't sell it and then we sell something else with a lower margin.

It's a lot of cost like that. I think it's more, as I said before, a start-up problem, because we learn every day and do it better and better, and this effect goes down.

Victor Hansen

Makes sense. That ties into my third question.

The inventory levels in Varberg, you have complained about it before in Q3 as well. Are you satisfied now with the inventory levels in Varberg?

Or are you still working to fill it? Can you now deliver L and XL orders from Varberg?

Johan Mårild

I think we will probably never be satisfied with a stock level. We are absolutely done a lot of work since Q4.

We will continue to improve the assortment over time. We are tuning it every day a little bit.

We are absolutely working on it.

Victor Hansen

Can you deliver extra large orders from Varberg now? Or is that something for the future still?

Johan Mårild

We deliver a lot of extra large orders from Varberg, but we want to deliver even more. That's why we now starting to work more hours.

Quite soon we will start working on weekends and evenings in Varberg. That will help us to be able to deliver much more orders from Varberg, and that will help us, absolutely.

Pär Svärdson

Part of that scale-up in addition to launching more shifts in Varberg is adding shipping methods and also continue calibrating the assortment, kind of enabling higher share of the orders being fulfilled there.

Victor Hansen

Perfect. On RX, RX sales growth slowed to 8%, slower than in previous quarters despite you, during the quarter, increasing the number of pharmacists significantly.

You mentioned more than 200 now in employed. What caused this growth slowdown?

Were there lack of orders? Or is your RX set-up in Varberg not fully operational yet?

Or what's the reason behind that?

Johan Mårild

In Varberg, they have now started to work full-time or something. It's still a lot of start-up small problems.

We need to be really sure that every order is correct and everything, we need to check everything much more. It takes some time to scale up.

Victor Hansen

Also you had a very strong RX growth in the previous quarter related to the changes in high-cost coverage. That could also have some impacting on the quarter.

Johan Mårild

We see strong demand on RX, absolutely. So...

Pär Svärdson

Yeah. We'll continue to increase our capacity this year.

Victor Hansen

Okay. Could you give any timing schedule for when RX is more operational in Varberg?

Johan Mårild

I think it's a little bit better today compared to yesterday. We scale up every day a little bit.

I think it's a continuous process.

Victor Hansen

Okay. A final question from me is the ease-to-grab regulation.

Investors are still following this quite closely. I'm wondering if you could give us an update on the implications for you from this during Q4.

If you have any thoughts on it ahead? Are you seeing any changes in consumer behavior?

Johan Mårild

No, not really. It affects us just a little bit.

If we look at our figures, that's not the reason for the profitability in Q4. Small effect as we mentioned before, but it's very small.

I think it's very bad for our customer and I don't like it. For Apotea, it's not a big problem.

It's more for people in rural areas or old people and so on.

Pär Svärdson

It's annoying as a customer.

Johan Mårild

People really don't like it. It's not a big problem for us, but it's a problem for people in this rural areas.

Pär Svärdson

Yeah.

Operator

The next question comes from Daniel Schmidt from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

Daniel Schmidt

Yes. Good morning, Pär and Johan.

Maybe a follow-up from me. We talked a lot about Q4 and what happened.

More from a top line perspective, Pär, you already mentioned three months ago that you shifted your focus from internal to external, implying that top line growth would pick up. What went wrong really in Q4?

That it is a campaign-intensive period, and that has been sort of the trend for many years now. What do you think went wrong?

Johan Mårild

Do you mean with the top line or with profitability?

Daniel Schmidt

With the growth ambitions, basically, because you also said in Q3 that now is the time to shift focus.

Johan Mårild

This shift takes time. We have started a lot of initiatives, and preparing for the site in Norway, for Johanna Hummel, for rebuilding our site, AI initiatives, and so on.

I think it will take a few quarters or this year, we will see a change. You can't really change customer behaviors and a lot of technology and so on in just a few weeks.

We need some time.

Daniel Schmidt

Okay. Does that mean that you think that growth will be below your target for a couple of quarters?

Johan Mårild

We have no forecast for that, but I think we will see a significant change, but give us some time because it takes some time. We will absolutely focus on it.

Daniel Schmidt

Yeah. I completely understand that Q4 has become very concentrated to a couple of weeks, and that makes it more difficult, I guess, to find your place in the market, maybe.

Given that that's been the trend for now a number of years, and it's become more and more concentrated, is there any reason to believe that that behavior would change in any way looking ahead?

Johan Mårild

I think this Black Week will continue to be some kind of problematic for retail in the coming years as well. We need to work with it to lower the problems with it.

The phenomenon is out there and will exist '26 as well. I think we need to just adapt it and behave The growth initiatives that we are working on are focusing on improving our customer offering even further.

It takes time, but it will also have an impact not only when you sell on the normal price, but also in campaign periods. The growth engine of Apotea has always been to kind of having satisfied customers and returning customers, and they are, over time, purchasing more and more from Apotea.

I think a lot of these initiatives we have been doing during the autumn has been very, very good for Apotea. We have a weak profitability, but we have also scaled up the Varberg facility and solved a lot of issues with it.

We are really good prepared with that facility for the coming years. I think we had a weak profitability, but also a lot of good initiatives, and we will continue to work with them.

A year ago we in Varberg and then launched it this summer. In Q3, we said that we had 10,000 orders a day fulfilled in Varberg, and now we have a record of roughly 21,000 orders.

It's a very successful ramp-up.

Daniel Schmidt

Yeah. No, but I think you're absolutely doing what you can.

I just feel that Q4 has become a quarter that's overflooded with products and campaigns, and that doesn't seem to go away. It's sort of more and more signified by very hard competition, low growth, and very low profitability.

It's hard to change that, and I guess you try to do what you can. We'll see what happens next Q4.

Johan Mårild

You probably correct. If you know something, you can work with it and you can also be best in class.

It's a threat, but also a possibility. If you work with like that, you can earn a lot from it as well.

Daniel Schmidt

Yeah. I'm just saying you knew that already this time, and that didn't help.

Maybe you're going to be more prepared next year.

Johan Mårild

We hope so.

Daniel Schmidt

Yeah. Thank you.

Johan Mårild

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Benjamin Wahlstedt from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

Good morning. Bit of a follow-up to start.

You mentioned a negative impact from campaigns. Obviously, you've also been very clear in all communication with the market and your customers that you are price leaders and you've also been campaign-driven throughout your history as a company.

I was wondering, is there any specific competitors that are making you push this price-leading position even further in the quarter, or what changed?

Johan Mårild

I think the fourth quarter has for the last year has been very focused on Black Week. I think it's more driven from a customer side that they wait.

They don't shop in the beginning of November and don't in the beginning of December, because they focus more and more on Black Week. It's more like not competitor-driven, more like customer-driven.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

All right. Thank you.

A bit of a detailed-related question as well. Are you using Google automated discounts?

Pär Svärdson

No.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

No. Okay.

You also talk about working evenings and weekends in Varberg. I would assume this is done in tandem with added scale, or should we expect sort of lower scale on OpEx near term?

Johan Mårild

Sorry, I didn't really got the question.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

You mentioned adding evening and weekend shifts in Varberg in this presentation. When will this happen?

Should we expect any sort of near-term higher costs related to this, or how should we think about that?

Johan Mårild

We try to balance it between Morgongåva and Varberg, and try to balance it. We want to deliver more orders from Varberg, because then we can handle the growth in Varberg and we can also start delivering to Norway from Varberg, and then we need more hours.

I think it's more like good for our costs than bad for costs.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

Yeah. All right.

Thank you. I might have missed this.

You spoke about your inventory position previously as well. I note that your inventory levels is down quarter over quarter.

This is not seen in previous years, and this in a time where you say you're building inventories in Varberg. How should we understand this?

Johan Mårild

This inventory stock goes a little bit up and down, and it varies between different quarters. It's one day you measure it, it goes up and down.

Over time, I think two warehouses will make the stock a little bit bigger. With better AI support and so on, you can lower the stock and still be able to deliver.

I think we can have a quite stable stock level going forward. Two warehouses, of course, drives a little bit more stock.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

Absolutely. Perhaps a sort of modeling-related question.

What should we expect in terms of maintenance CapEx now that you're done with Varberg?

Johan Mårild

We have very little maintenance CapEx, but the CapEx that we have had historically that has not been related to building new capacity has been in the range of, say, 50 to 70 million Swedish. We expect that pattern to continue, and the investments will be related to more focus on efficiency rather than building new capacity.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

Like building new workstations for RX and so on.

Pär Svärdson

If you just kind of isolate the kind of changing spare parts, it's very, very little.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

All right. So, 50 to 70 per annum going forward?

Pär Svärdson

Something like that.

Benjamin Wahlstedt

Good. Thank you.

That's all I had today.

Pär Svärdson

Thank you.

Johan Mårild

I think that was the final question. Thank you for taking the time and listen to us, and we wish you a good day.

Operator

Thank you very much. Bye.