Aditya Infotech Limited

Aditya Infotech Limited

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Q4 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMay 28, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Aditya Infotech Q4 FY26 conference call hosted by ICICI Securities. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Aniruddha Joshi from ICICI Securities.

Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Aniruddha Joshi

Thanks, Alaric. ICICI Securities is pleased to invite you all to Q4 FY26 and FY26 results conference call of Aditya Infotech Limited.

We have with us today senior management represented by Mr. Aditya Khemka, Managing Director; Mr.

Anup Nair, President, Strategy and Business Development; Mr. Yogesh Sharma, Chief Financial Officer; and Miss Deepika Dubey, Head of Investor Relations.

I congratulate the management for posting stellar set of numbers and solid increase in guidance amid such steep volatility in the business environment and markets. Now I hand over the call to Aditya ji for his initial comments on the quarterly and annual performance.

Thanks, and over to you, sir.

Aditya Khemka

Thank you, Aniruddha. Good afternoon to all.

Thank you for joining us today for our Q4 and full year FY2026 earnings call. Financial year 2026 has been a defining year for Aditya Infotech and the Indian video surveillance industry, marked by regulatory transformation, market consolidation, accelerated localization, and the emergence of AI-led surveillance ecosystems.

Amidst these industry shifts, we strengthened our market leadership, expanded our manufacturing footprint, enhanced our technology capabilities, and laid a strong foundation for the next phase of long-term growth. At the outset of this journey, we held approximately 30% market share in the Indian video surveillance market with almost 25% in our own brand, CP PLUS.

At the time of our IPO, we projected that our own brand market share could expand to nearly 36% post-STQC implementation, assuming a meaningful consolidation of the Chinese players' market share among the Indian manufacturers. The industry transition unfolded more favorably than anticipated.

Our preparedness, robust localization strategy, manufacturing scale, and one of the industry's largest STQC-certified product portfolios enabled us to significantly exceed expectations. As of Q3 FY2026, our market share reached approximately 45.4%, establishing us as the clear market leader in the India's organized surveillance industry.

The global semiconductor and memory industry continues to face significant disruption due to ongoing supply-demand imbalances, geopolitical uncertainties, and manufacturing constraints. Critical components, such as SoC, DDR, flash, and sensors, remain under severe supply pressure, resulting in extended lead times and rising procurement challenges across industries.

Furthermore, the US dollar continues to remain at historically high levels, increasing the landed cost of imported part of electronic components and the raw materials. The ongoing geopolitical tensions and conflict in the Middle East have also led to a sharp rise in global insurance premiums and freight costs, adding further pressure to the overall supply chain and operating environment.

To mitigate these risks, we have proactively adopted a multi-SoC product strategy along with a diversified multi-supply chain procurement strategy to strengthen flexibility, reduce dependency risks, and ensure business continuity. We are also focusing on forward procurement and long-term planning to secure component availability well in advance and minimize future disruptions.

Nevertheless, given the sustained pressure on the global electronics ecosystem, the price escalations remains inevitable. Industry trends indicate that costs are likely to continue rising until 2027.

Despite these challenges, we remain committed to managing the impact responsibly by implementing price increase in a phased and gradual manner, ensuring long-term sustainability while continuing to support our customers and partners effectively. Let me now take you through our FY2026 strategic alliances and partnerships that are key to securing our supply chain and integrating advanced technologies into our products.

We have strategically partnered with Qualcomm Technologies to develop AI-enabled, insight-driven video security solutions for industrial, enterprise, and public safety applications. This partnership represents a significant transition from traditional hardware-led surveillance towards AI-powered analytics and intelligent edge computing ecosystems.

The platform is currently in advanced trial and testing phases, and we expect commercial rollout in a phased manner going forward. We have partnered also with L&T Semiconductor Technologies to focus on the supply of 9 million next-generation CCTV IP cameras over the next 3 years powered with LTSCT's indigenously designed vision system-on-chip technology.

This represents a major step towards building India's indigenous semiconductor and intelligent surveillance ecosystem. As part of our backward integration strategy, we entered into a joint venture agreement with Orient Cables for LAN and CCTV camera cable manufacturing.

We plan to set up a manufacturing facility in Rajasthan, which will span approximately 1 lakh square feet, with commercial operations expected to commence between Q2 and Q3 FY2027. Re SoC partnerships, we have built strong partnerships with six leading non-Chinese SoC companies including Ambarella, Qualcomm, Augentix, Ingenic, [NovaTek?]

, and Realtek. The diversified strategy has strengthened our supply chain, reduced dependency risks, and improve our ability to deliver products consistently despite the global semiconductor challenges.

Strong alignment with the top three sensor players, namely SmartSens, Sony, and SOI, has also ensured technology and supply continuity. Our R&D capabilities continue to strengthen with our DSIR-certified in-house labs and a rapidly expanding innovation ecosystem.

We are making strong progress in AI-powered video analytics, unified platforms, mobile applications, and multibrand product development under the CP PLUS portfolio. Alongside strengthening our presence in Noida and Ahmedabad, we are also expanding with an upcoming Bangalore center and have successfully kick-started our Taiwan office and R&D operations.

To support this growth, we are rapidly scaling our R&D teams and bringing in experienced global talent with over 20 years of expertise, further enhancing our technology leadership and innovation capabilities. On manufacturing side, we are steadily advancing our localization and manufacturing initiatives to strengthen supply chain independence and operational efficiency.

Significant progress has been made in localizing coaxial Cat 6 camera and recorder cables, while our housing manufacturing capabilities supported by an in-house plant with 50 machines along with strong partner ecosystems. We also plan to kick-start CCTV lens production very soon in our Kadapa facility.

Our manufacturing capacity has now reached 2.5 million units, marking a significant milestone in our operational growth. While manpower and supply chain challenges continue to evolve, we are actively improving efficiencies and strengthening execution across the ecosystems.

We are targeting 90% to 100% capacity utilization to maximize productivity and meet growing market demand. In line with our expansion strategy, HD analog job work is being planned to be moved to EMS players for further enhancing scalability and operational flexibility with a proposed capacity of half a million units per month and scalable further subject to future growth requirements.

In parallel, we are also evaluating further land acquisition opportunities in the north of India to enable our long-term growth strategy. In Q4 and full year, the CP PLUS brand continued its strong trajectory, contributing 86% of overall AIL revenues.

IP products made up 73% of CP PLUS portfolio, underscoring the sustained shift towards higher-value IP solutions. Let me now briefly walk you through our financial performance for the quarter and the full year FY2026.

On the quarterly side, revenue grew 45.5% year on year to 1,422 crores, driven by strong demand from our expanding portfolio of CP PLUS CTC technology products across all segments from retail to projects and government. EBITDA increased 162% year on year to 258.3 crores with margins improving by 8 basis points to 18%, primarily due to favorable product mix, product and brand mix, higher localization, and better operational efficiencies.

Adjusted PAT stood at 169.1 crores, up 207.7% year on year, attributed to lowering of finance costs by 38% and better cost efficiencies. On the full year performance, revenue grew 49% year on year to 4,220.8 crores, driven by market share gains across geographies.

EBITDA increased 124.1% to 579 crores with margins expanding by 540 basis points to 13.7%. Adjusted PAT rose to 368 crores, reflecting 166.1% year-on-year growth, aided by disciplined cost management and a 27.8% reduction in finance costs following debt repayment from IPO proceeds.

On FY2026 growth and expansion timeline, we continue to make strong progress on our capacity expansion roadmap. The housing plant development is progressing as planned with phase 1 expected to become operational by Q2 FY2027 and phase 2 by Q4 FY2027.

With the housing plant, we have targeted to achieve a production capacity of 30 million housing and enclosures per year. We are also commissioning a new lens assembly line with an initial capacity of 5 lakh lenses per month, scalable up to 1 million lenses monthly to support future growth.

At Kadapa, we proposed to acquire additional land parcel and added another shed of 50,000 square feet of manufacturing space to further strengthening the manufacturing infrastructure. In Noida, we have proposed to secure a 3 lakh square feet facility in Sector 68 expected to be operational by Q4 FY2027.

Looking ahead to FY2028, our vision is to expand overall production capacity to 2x of the existing capacity, achieve complete backward integration across key components, and establish a fully functional global R&D presence, including our Taiwan operations, in order to drive innovation and long-term growth. Our brand-building initiatives have strengthened our presence across India through celebrity partnerships, sports sponsorships, and high-visibility campaigns.

Consumer engagement strengthened significantly with the launch of new brand campaigns featuring south superstars Vijay Sethupathi and Prithviraj Sukumaran, deepening our audience across South India. Title sponsorship of Punjab Kings and in the Indian Premier League along with major airport campaigns and our largest-ever presence in IFSEC India 2025 and title sponsorship of PACT 2025 have further strengthened our market presence and brand leadership across the country.

Currently, we have 141 brand Galaxy Stores across pan-India operational. These are exclusive CP PLUS stores dedicated to sell and promote our cameras and security equipment portfolio, operating under a co-funded business model to strengthen market reach and customer engagement.

On the profitability front, given an uncertain geopolitical environment coupled with persistent inflationary pressures, which have resulted in elevated raw material costs, the benefit of company's earlier low-cost inventory has now been exhausted and replacement inventory is being procured at a higher costs. While the company is passing on these increased costs to customers, there is an inherent time lag in the transmission of such price revisions.

Therefore, profitability growth may not mirror the pace of the revenue growth. Nevertheless, the company remains focused on improving operational efficiencies, maintaining cost discipline, and sustaining its long-term objective of enhancing profitability performance.

We announced a price hike of 6% to 8% in January 2026, and further price rise is expected to keep continuing in this financial year. On the utilization of cash, the company continues to follow a prudent and value-oriented capital allocation approach.

Our key priority is to deploy available funds through capex and selective inorganic growth opportunities that align with our long-term strategic objectives and have the potential to be EPS accretive. We are exploring opportunities that can further strengthen our technological expertise, broaden our product offerings, and enhance our positioning in fast-growing markets.

In particular, the company intends to focus on investments that bolster our research and development capabilities, as we believe continuous innovation and product enhancements are essential to sustaining long-term growth, improving differentiations, and reinforcing our competitive advantage in the industry. We have announced a dividend of ₹1.6 per equity share on equity shares of face value of ₹1 each.

The CCTV market is expected to show robust growth in terms of units in the range of 15% to 16%. We intend to surpass the industry growth rate and aim to grow in the range of 25% to 30% in the coming year.

With the continued price rise in the market ASP and the shift in the product mix, the average per unit camera recovery is expected to rise by 20% to 25%. Looking at the current market and the stability of the CCTV industry post-STQC mandate, we would like to set the tone for the upcoming financial year by upping our initial guidance for FY2027 on the revenue side to 6,000 to 6,500 crore, which is almost 50% growth over the last year, EBITDA margin to 14% to 15%, and PAT around 8.5% to 9.5%.

We remain confident, optimistic, and committed to building a stronger, more innovative, and future-ready organization. I would like to thank all our employees, partners, customers, investors, and stakeholders for their continued trust and support throughout this journey.

Thank you, and we are now open for Q&A.

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.

Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

The first question comes from the line of Ankur Sharma with HDFC Life. Please go ahead.

Ankur Sharma

Hi sir. Good morning.

Congratulations on great set of numbers. I had a couple of questions.

One on the gross margins for Q4 where we've seen a very sharp almost a 900 basis plus increase in the gross margins to almost 31.8%. Just trying to understand, is this primarily driven by better mix, more share of IP cameras, or was there also an element of low-cost inventory, which was utilized, and maybe we don't get that benefit as we start procuring inventory, obviously, especially on the memory side, at much higher prices?

Just trying to understand what led to this big surge in gross margins and where do you really see this kind of settling down? Thanks.

Anup Nair

Hi, sorry, Ankur. Thanks for the question.

This is Anup here. Ankur So you're right.

It's been a combination of stuff. Like you said, we took a price rise in Q4, and I, of course, had low-cost inventory that was lying with us, and like I mentioned in our earlier calls also, the project SKUs got STQC-certified in H2.

The more high-end SKUs started coming in the Q3 and Q4. It's been a combination of all the factors that you said, low-cost inventory, which was there with us, price rise in Q4, as well as the SKU mix that has happened.

The second part of your question in terms of the margin sustainability, I think we already called that out in the call saying that we have almost exhausted all our low-cost inventory and there is price increases in our raw material, but in this year also, starting Q1, there is price rise which is already happening, and this is a tapered price rise happening across the months. There might be a time lag in terms of how it is happening, but we thought it's our responsibility as market leaders to ensure that there is no sudden price rise and there is a gradual price rise which is happening into the market and there is acceptability on this.

We think the margins are sustainable, but if you see our guidance, we have factored for that. Our guidance for the whole year is higher than our last year guidance, but slightly lower than the Q4.

We have factored for that, and we are fairly confident of delivering the same.

Ankur Sharma

Just on the price hikes, on the last call you did say about 6% to 8% was taken in January. I'm assuming you need another 25% odd.

Is that correct? Just trying to understand how much of price hikes has already been taken and how much more, assuming a status quo right now on the RM and the forex front, how much more?

Yeah.

Aditya Khemka

Ankur, I think what we have decided is we're doing it on a monthly scale instead of abrupt price rise. We've been securing semiconductors and memories much ahead of competitions at better cost optimizations.

We continue doing that. There are two things we are focusing: supply continuity as well as cost optimization, and much ahead of the competition to source the semiconductors from different chipset makers as far as possible.

We are doing monthly price rise of few basis points every month. What this is helping us is that market is not getting a sudden shock, and each month in this quarter also and maybe in the coming quarter, you will see a price rise happening.

People are able to pass it on gradually, and there is no shock given to the customers in a very big way. It'll be a single-digit price rise every month sort of a thing.

Again, it depends on product category to product category depending upon the input cost price.

Anup Nair

Ankur, we have actually planned it as an ASP increase. That will also be contributed by SKU mix further enhancing as further projects come in too, and also as the CP PLUS portfolio continues to expand.

It's not 100% driven by only price rises. It's also being driven by brand mix and also by the SKU mix within the brand.

Ankur Sharma

Fair enough. Perfect.

Okay. Just on the memory side specifically, given the global shortages and a lot of that memory being diverted away to AI data centers, how well placed are you say in terms of memory, SoC, when you look at say the next 6, 9 months?

Or is it because we are the largest player we actually have a component advantage over some of the smaller players and we can actually increase our share gains given the smaller guys would typically struggle to get that?

Aditya Khemka

See, what has happened is memory DDR, there are six, seven large global manufacturers. I'm talking about outside China.

Half of them have stopped making DDR3 because of the major AI demand leading them to shift all their capacities to DDR5. DDR5 and above.

That is where the gap of memories coming up. Any situation where there is a demand-supply imbalance, I have seen and we are seeing in our industry even now that, the big get bigger and the smaller tail is the largely affected one.

That's what is happening here also. We are actually with a strong purchasing power that we have, the volume we have, and the relationships we have with all these guys, are securing our supplies much ahead of, as I said, competition.

We are, securing it from multiple supply chains direct from the fab makers, the fab guys, and the chipset guys, their distributors, open markets, all kinds of places, ensuring that we have enough supplies at the right cost to, provide in the market. I think that will probably is one of our advantage in this year because of the sheer market size and the volume that we have.

Ankur Sharma

Perfect. Just one last one, if I may, is on market share itself.

You said you're close to 46% market share, which I think is brilliant given maybe it started off maybe a couple of quarters back. One, how much more do you think, I guess you've got a target in mind, where you can go?

Who are the other sizable player? Just trying to understand, except you, who are the other Indian large players?

Obviously, the Chinese share has come down so significantly, but something on that, yeah. See,

Aditya Khemka

there are about 30 brands as per the current certified list. A dozen of the global brands are certified, but their share overall is about 10% of the market, which is all the big names of the global brands.

Then there are about 1 and 1/2 dozen domestic brands. Nobody out of that plays in all the vertical market segments of home, consumer, small, medium businesses, enterprise, government, all the sectors.

In every sector, we have different competition. Most of them are probably 1/10 of our size at the moment or even lower.

They are all evolving. They're all scaling up, but I think it'll take their own time.

To scale up on all fronts of R&D, manufacturing, localization, organization, supply chain is again now a big deterrent in the current demand-supply situation because of the semiconductor and the memory. I think if you ask me a single large number two, I can't peg one single large number two across the sectors.

Anup Nair

Just to add, we are not targeting any specific market share, but like we called out, we are planned to outgrow the industry growth rate. Of course, there will be a market share gain,

Aditya Khemka

but

Anup Nair

that will happen naturally, and we are focused on more of building our capacities and ensuring supply, but we are not targeting any specific numbers in terms of market share, but that will happen automatically.

Ankur Sharma

Perfect. Got that.

Great. That's very helpful, and all the best.

Aditya Khemka

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Dhruv Jain with Ambit Capital. Please go ahead.

Dhruv Jain

Thanks a lot for the opportunity, and congratulations to the team for great numbers. My first question is on margins, right?

With respect to backward integration, whatever initiatives that you're doing, my guess is that the full year annualized benefit will come in FY28. Just wanted to understand what kind of benefits in terms of margins we'd see in FY28 with respect to the housing plant and various other initiatives that you're doing.

Aditya Khemka

Dhruv, I think valid point. We are right now investing heavily.

In terms of housings, enclosures, right now it's all third-party supply chain. With our own plants coming in, of course, there will be some addition to the bottom line.

I can't peg exact overall basis point, but I'm sure there will be enough contribution on the housing cost itself. Does the cable, because same, we are right now sourcing third party or importing.

Once we make in-house, the other three things we achieve when we do this localization in-house: one is quality consistency, second is supply consistency, third is contribution to the EBITDA basis point. All these things, and then the lens.

These three things will definitely contribute in FY28. Marginally impact may come in later part of this year, but early to say what level of contribution will come.

I can say yes, there will be contribution.

Dhruv Jain

Sure. Okay.

Sir, my second question is on market demand, right? In your presentation, you've mentioned that you'd expect market volumes to grow by 15% to 17%.

Now in categories like say mobile phones, laptops, we've seen that the demand has fallen off because the ASP hikes has really hurt the end-market demand. Just wanted to your sense in terms of what is the level of confidence, or what are the factors that you still see that despite this sharp inflation, we will see that kind of demand grow in the market?

Aditya Khemka

Again, very good question, Dhruv. I think see, we were expecting a high pent-up demand in this year post the transition last year, because we believe last year the growth wasn't that great in terms of market.

We, as a company, grew our market share, but the overall market consumption was muted because of this transition, which happened from the pre-STQC to the post-STQC era. This year, we were expecting a much higher market growth because of this shift of the last year's pent-up demand coming in this year.

We again brought it to a muted level of 15% in our planning and guidance factoring the ASP cost rise on the products. Here again, you'll see what is going to happen is the ASP cost rise on medium to higher end on the percentage side is not that high.

In enterprise, project sector is not going to be that bad. There will be rise, but not that bad.

The entry-level market in the network cameras and recorders are higher. I think it will be a mix.

Some places, there will be some reduction in consumption shifting to maybe some analog cameras, where the cost price is much lesser compared to the entry-level IP. We did all that simulation, and then figured out that overall quantity of 15% may grow, which earlier we were expecting more than 20% with keeping the pent-up demand in mind.

We have factored that a little bit in our planning.

Anup Nair

When you talk about mobiles and all, you're talking about generally the entry-level consumer spends. In our category, the consumer purchases are still less than 10% of the overall business.

This is still essentially a B2B-led businesses where, like Aditya was mentioning, there is pent-up demand from last year and there is still supplies which have not been done. We believe that that will still be strong on the commercial sites with the new projects coming up and the consumption will still be there.

Our growth is factored in at almost 25%, 30% kind of unit growth and rest is due to the ASP rise. We believe the industry will still grow in units in about 15%, 16%, which, like we just mentioned, should have been higher considering the pent-up growth if you consider the last year and this year.

Dhruv Jain

In that context, if I'm not wrong, there should also be value growth, which also helps our margins because I'm guessing there will be some bit of migration that happens from IP-level cameras to premium-end cameras because the ASP hikes, if I'm not wrong, in the premium end would be lower.

Anup Nair

Yeah. When we are saying that the ASP is going to be higher by about 25%, it's not coming all from price rise.

It's coming from what you just mentioned. It's coming from the portfolio mix as well, and the overall IP percentage of the portfolio constantly going up.

Dhruv Jain

Got it. Sir, if you could just call out the capex numbers for FY27?

Anup Nair

We had planned for 200 odd plus minus few numbers, but I think as we are upping the guidance, we feel we might require a little more. Plans are being worked upon compared to the new expansions that we are planning.

I think it'll fall in that range of 200, 300 kind of thing, and we will largely be funding it from internal accruals or some debt, maybe, for the plant and machinery.

Dhruv Jain

All right. Thanks a lot, sir, and all the best.

Anup Nair

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Nikhil Kale with Invesco Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.

Yeah.

Nikhil Kale

Thank you for taking my question. Firstly, heartiest congratulations on a very strong set of numbers and the up in the guidance.

My question was more on the cash flow generation. Obviously, we have had a stellar year, and with the significant growth that we've seen, we've also seen increase in working capital, which has impacted our cash flow generation.

Going forward, how should we think about it, especially you alluded to the fact that you might be procuring components in advance, probably inventory days might inch up. You might also need to pay creditors more or less or say pay your suppliers more quickly, payables might also kind of get impacted.

Considering these two aspects, how should we think about cash flow generations for the next year? Then will that be enough to kind of fund our capex plans and also the land acquisition that you just briefly spoke about?

Anup Nair

Yeah. Nikhil, you're right.

We have been razor-focused on our operational efficiencies and we have improved on our inventory levels and the debtors have also improved gradually, but yes, the cash conversion cycle has slightly increased, and like you rightly pointed out, that has mainly got to do with us having to procure the chips and memory, some of it we are blocking and we are having to make some possibly advance payments. The cash conversion cycle is essentially slightly gone up due to the creditors coming down because of what we are doing in terms of securing our supplies.

At least in the shorter term we see this growing because our first priority is ensuring supplies and that only from the supply side, we are consistent and we are secured. This will sort of continue, but we have factored that in our working capital working for this year.

We have already called out your capex numbers, and yes, we have upped our guidance in terms of revenue, yeah, there will be a working capital needs, but at the moment, I think it's sort of pretty okay. We will see if there are further growth possibilities and if there's further capex requirement how to fund it.

At the moment, we're looking at funding it mostly from internal accruals and some debt, and we are pretty comfortable.

Nikhil Kale

Got it. That's reassuring.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Neel with Equirus Securities.

Please go ahead.

Neel Mehta

Yeah. Hi, sir.

Congratulations for solid set of numbers. Sir, I have a couple of questions.

Sir, first is that related to the chipset that we have almost now six suppliers on boards, how are our agreements placed? It's more of a volume-bound agreements or a time-bound agreements?

If the prices of chipset let's say increase, how much time it takes to pass into the customers?

Anup Nair

Neel, yeah, hi Neel. You normally have supply agreements only, and right now the situation is most of the agreements if you talk about across the industries are going haywire because the supply demand is totally going haywire.

The cost is rising on every fortnight, weekly basis. It's a question of even if you pay advances sometimes, the contract gets invalid sometimes because of the very sort of a force majeure kind of a situation.

This is a very unprecedented times. I have not seen these kind of things in the last two, three decades of my business career.

We are mitigating it and we're mitigating it I think so far so well, touch wood, and we hope that we can be with this multi-supply chain, multi-sourcing strategy, multi-products R&D, we will be able to mitigate this risk. The price rise is a decision we are doing on a gradual phase.

Again, we are averaging our sourcing and averaging the price rise. Like I said, we are passing it on a monthly basis.

Every month raising it. Over the quarter, I think the price rise can be easily passed to the market, but what we are more conscious of right now is that we don't want a shock in the market and the consumption or the flow of material and the sales out, cash flow, all that get affected too much.

I think we are more bothering that and the market share and then managing the cost optimization and passing of the price.

Neel Mehta

Okay. Sir, last question is let's say in FY26, if we were to bifurcate the volume-led growth and value-led growth, what would that be ratio?

Anup Nair

You're talking about FY26?

Neel Mehta

Right, sir.

Anup Nair

Right, sir. We think the volume growth would be about roughly 18%, 20%, and rest would be the ASP growth, but that is again majorly driven by the mix.

The price rise was essentially only in Q4. In the other three quarters, the post-STQC materials were at a higher price, and the mix of CP PLUS to internally that mix has changed, and IP to HD the mix has changed.

If there's a 33% growth, almost 18% to 20% would be volume growth and rest would be the ASP growth.

Neel Mehta

Sir. In FY20, I know sir, it's very difficult to say, but any kind of ballpark number you would like to put what kind of broadly price hikes we can see in FY27?

Anup Nair

We have called out that the ASP growth will be roughly about 25% and the volume growth will be roughly between 25% and 30%, but it's difficult to do it category-wise. That's why we just called out the general ASP growth and the quantity growth.

Neel Mehta

Perfect, sir. Thank you so much, and congratulations again for a solid set of numbers.

Anup Nair

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Naushad Choudhary with Aditya Birla Mutual Fund.

Please go ahead.

Naushad Choudhary

Hi. Thank you, and congrats very good set of number.

Just one clarification on the margin side, sir. Till last quarter, we had our view of this business is expected to do 12% to 13% kind of margin for us, and within a quarter, it has moved up to 14%, 15% expectation.

In last one year, just wanted to last 1, 2 quarter, what has changed which is letting to this kind of expectation? This 14%, 15% is a new normal for your business, or could FY28 be different?

Anup Nair

I would say, Naushad, this should be the new normal for this business. You see we were working on this only.

We didn't want to speak early ahead of the situation. Many things of localization, cost optimization, the shift towards medium to higher-end products, enterprise business, premiumization, all that gradually was contributing and inching us towards this direction.

Q4 was a little higher than this, but that was a one-off. I think 14%, 15% should be the new normal FY27, FY28 as we move forward.

Naushad Choudhary

Perfect. Last so initially on the export side, we had a view that our hands are full and tight for the domestic demand, we may think after 2, 3 years, we may think of export opportunity.

Any thoughts and development that side and how it could look like in next 3 years, 4 years?

Aditya Khemka

I think we will start some action hopefully in this year. At the moment, with so much happening, Naushad, in capacity, R&D, localization, inorganic options that we are working on, and in the supply chain disruptions, I think the energies are all moving here to ensure that we first meet the demand, which is in the domestic market.

Export will be the focus. Timing is something we had thought of doing it in the coming year, but let's see if we can kick off some actions in the coming year.

Some parts are underway, but how much will materialize, it's early times to make a statement.

Naushad Choudhary

Sure, Aditya. Thank you, all the best.

Aditya Khemka

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Anuj Kashyap with A3 Capital. Please go ahead.

Anuj Kashyap

Hello. Am I audible?

Aditya Khemka

Anuj. Hi, you're audible.

Anuj Kashyap

Sir. Congratulations for your good set of numbers.

Sir, just my question is with a caveat, it's a forward-looking in nature, sir. Just I wanted to know your head what do you think?

What is the thought process regarding the cameras have become from omnipresent to omniscient? Like see the pure integration with the Qualcomm or your partnership with the Qualcomm is about AI or the cameras becoming the active decision-makers down the line.

As an sir organization, how do you look at it? Just I want to know your thought process.

Na pura question samajh nahi paya, Anuj.

Anup Nair

You're asking about the AI cameras? AI going into cameras, is it?

Anuj Kashyap

Yes, sir. Sir, jaise pehle omnipresent the sir camera har jagah pe hai.

Cameras have become decision-makers also sir in some ways, like due to the data processing by the So

Aditya Khemka

let me explain. See, basically, the industry started as just a viewing, then it went into the recording, then it went into intelligence a little bit of video analytics, which is already part of our current systems that we offer.

Moving forward, more and more video analytics and AI will come in. Let's say aap ek hospital mein ho ya ek education institute mein ho ya ek building mein ho, ab usme the guys need a report, what imminent triggers, call to actions.

Or camera is a sensing device which can capture the metadata. The AI on the other device can process the data, trigger an action.

Similarly, call to actions can happen, or reports can be generated. It's you can say they are the eyes, ears, and sound now because the camera can have audio out, you can talk from the camera, you can hear the sound also, you can view.

Aankh, kaan, aur zubaan ho gaya hai ek tarah se. Now the brain has to be the AI, which is the edge boxes and the recorders and the processing of that and then take the action with your arms and legs.

That's how the whole system will prevail. Cameras will be the integral part of the whole AI ecosystem as we progress.

Anuj Kashyap

Sir aapne bilkul mere jo maine chaha tha wahi aapne jawab diya. Sir maine ye poochna chahta tha ki sir hamare liye as an organisation sir hamara jo service component agar jaise today we are the only hardware company, will there be some revenue that we can hope ki hamara service component se bhi aa sake?

Aditya Khemka

We are working on two things. We already announced cloud for our home market.

Jaise aaj record karte ho premise pe, but agar aapka recorder hi koi le jaye, toh aapka pura data gaya. One is a redundancy backup on the cloud like aap apna data ERP ka karte hain, waise hi video storage ka redundancy.

Usko hum ek mass market banane pe optimize kar rahe hain. We are optimizing our platform to make it more and more cost effective and affordable before we go mass scale to offer that as a redundancy backup.

Post that, AI as a security and service model, SaaS model, is once you have that data, you can start working and giving AI intelligence with edge devices on-premise and cloud AI on the pack. Ye SaaS model pe bhi hum kaam kar rahe hain which is where the Qualcomm partnership is working on.

As I mentioned, the platform is under trials and development, and hopefully, this year we might go to market very soon.

Anuj Kashyap

Sir, just add on to it, sir. Of course it will be margin-accretive.

Do you have any numbers in your mind how much margin-accretive that component

Aditya Khemka

Too early. It's a new market creation.

It's too early. Sir

Anuj Kashyap

that market is going to boom, sir. That market is going to boom.

Aditya Khemka

Absolutely, it will going to boom. We are investing on that cloud also and the AI SaaS model also, but if I look at 5 years hence, yeah, that is an investment we are doing today.

It will pay off in the near future.

Anuj Kashyap

Okay. Sir, just one more question.

Sir, out of the total revenue, what percentage do you have the break up what is the B2C or what is the government business we are getting? Is there some breakup we can get?

Aditya Khemka

I think maybe later IR team can pass you some information on that, they will share you.

Anuj Kashyap

Sir. Thank you, sir.

Sir, best of luck for the future.

Aditya Khemka

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Vedanta Badani?] with Canara Bank Securities.

Please go ahead.

Vedanta Badani

Hello, sir. Sir, first of all, congratulations for great set of numbers.

I have two questions. First question is regarding the two other brands which we launched.

What is the status on that? Whether we have received the STQC certification on those brands or not?

Aditya Khemka

We announced two brands, Nexiuv and Eyera. Nexiuv is already certified for the first set of products, and more are underway.

We've already started shipping those products in the markets from last month, April. This is end of April, we started shipping post certification, and this month more products are getting produced and launched.

As we now progress month-on-month, more certifications will happen and more volume will keep growing. Eyera, due to the supply chain disruptions, some reworking in the R&D had to happen, hopefully, we'll get certified in another 2 months, and next quarter that may go to market.

Vedanta Badani

Understood, sir. The second question is regarding what kind of demand you are seeing from government-backed projects?

Aditya Khemka

It's very difficult to say. Suddenly, things happen.

Suddenly, things go slow. I think the market is 15%, 20% government.

We plan in our business also similar. Nothing more rockstar situation in a government side.

So 15%, 20% of our revenue come through GeM or large government projects or through tenders via the system integrators or PSUs. I think that should be the situation this year also.

Vedanta Badani

Okay. Thank you, sir.

Aditya Khemka

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Udit Gajiwala with Motilal Oswal. Please go ahead.

Udit Gajiwala

Yeah. Hi, sir.

Good afternoon. Congratulations on a great set of numbers.

Just one question in terms of competition, I believe that you're way ahead of the curve, but just wanted to understand that the certification process, which was going on very slow around October, November, that seems to have picked up for even some of your peers who have been pointing it out. Do you see any threat or any such thing maybe not this year, but from '28 onwards or something like that?

Udit,

Anup Nair

I think we are preparing ourselves for any eventual competition. This year seems slow because one is people are slowly getting certified, they have to scale up, as I said, on various fronts.

We are far ahead than most of them, be it localization, or capacity, or R&D, or product range, or supply chain. Second is the supply chain itself this year is a big deterrent for anybody to compete early.

I think they are unable to feed their own demand at the moment. I think that's another one.

I believe this will continue till the next year. We have a good head start with respect to our preparedness.

We are further consolidating on all fronts. We are further expanding on all fronts, multi-brand strategies, further augmenting market share growths, and they are positioned at different positions, price positions so as to take on any possible threat competition which comes in any level.

I think we are fairly poised, and we are quite cognizant of possible competition coming, and we have some head start of information, thanks to our connects with all the SoC guys of who's preparing products and what. I think we are fairly poised with respect to competition handling.

Udit Gajiwala

Fair enough, sir. That's it, sir.

Thank you, and all the best.

Anup Nair

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Vivek Gautam with GS Investment. Please go ahead.

Vivek Gautam

Congratulations, sir, on excellent set of numbers. Big wealth creation for the lucky investor to got the allotment in IPO.

I just wanted to know about the opportunity size for us and the expected growth rates and the differentiator for our company and especially dash cams and other being made compulsory sort of. Not compulsory at least, but preference-wise also, sir.

Anup Nair

Vivek, yeah. The industry, like we said, has been growing at generally about 15%, 16% CAGR, and we as an organization, if you see before 2025, we have been growing at a CAGR of almost 21%, 22%.

We have almost beat the industry growth rate consistently. As per all predictions, this industry should continue to grow at 15%, 16% in quantity terms easily.

I think last year was slightly muted essentially due to the transitions to STQC and supply-side issues. Most of the market research agencies were factoring that this year and next few years should be higher than 20 percentage in terms of quantity growths, but the supply-side constraints still continue.

We don't see any challenge in terms of the industry sustaining growth rates because I don't think has factored in the upgrade markets from HD to IP and also the penetration still there is a long way to go. We believe that we will always beat the industry, and in line with that, for this year we are factoring in a 25%, 30% quantity growth and so I think this should continue.

The industry growth rate as well as us beating the industry should continue.

Vivek Gautam

Few words on the differentiator for us, sir? Differentiating factor for us?

Anup Nair

Again, I think there are a lot of factors, but mainly, I would say first and foremost is the brand. Even if in this segment, if you still go out and check, I think now we have become sort of synonymous with the brand, CP PLUS.

Earlier also it was, but now with our advertising campaigns on the airports, on IPL, and the film stars, I think this will possibly be the only brand which is there right at the end-consumption level. Even in the other segments, which is the consultants, large customers, and SIs, there also we have been doing a lot of work, doing B2B shows.

Clearly, the brand's recall and presence is a big differentiator. Of course, then the other moats that we spoke about, the manufacturing.

I don't think anybody has such a large-scale integrated manufacturing setups. Product range across all segments.

The market is a mixture of SMB, large enterprises, government, consumer, and again, when you map out the competition, you will not see anybody relevant across all these segments. That's again a big factor for us.

We are possibly one of the only brands which are across all these segments. Then we have been in business for almost two decades, and most of the teams have been with us for a long time.

Experienced teams who are ground-connected, R&D, I don't think anybody's invested such deep into R&D, whether it's in India or offshore. There's a multiplicity of factors: our distribution reach, relationship with partners.

All that is playing out. Thank you.

Keep up the good work.

Vivek Gautam

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Darshil Jhaveri with Crown Capital. Please go ahead.

Darshil Jhaveri

Hello. Yeah.

Hi. Thank you so much for taking my question.

Firstly, congratulations on a great set of results. A lot of my questions have already been answered.

I just wanted to get your view I think we're doubling our capacity by FY28. By when will we be at full utilization?

Because if you are saying industry is growing at 20%, but if you are doubling it by next year only, are we expecting much higher growth than the 15%, 20% that's happening, because that will only help us utilize our capacities better. What are your views, sir?

Anup Nair

See, we're building the capacity in next 3 years. By 2028, not FY28, but 2028, we plan to double.

So 20 right now we are in 2026, 2028 we plan to double. Looking at a 3-year horizon, we will see how much growth we will do in our quantity.

Should we continue to grow at 25%, 30%, we will see what capacity utilization will come, and we are building it. Should tomorrow our export market comes up or ODM OEM market comes up, people have been approaching us to make products for them.

Right now we are saying we are utilizing the semicon for our own needs rather than making it for them because the shortage. I think we're just building that capacity keeping that in mind.

We will see by when the whole thing will get into full utilization.

Darshil Jhaveri

Like that, we're targeting over the next 2 years in our the amount of money that we're investing in this, sir? We've

Anup Nair

mentioned that 2 to 300 crores this year. The next year the plans are underway, but the strategy is what we are doing.

We feel that the capex plans and the growth plans we should be good enough to fund from our internal accruals and largely the company is at a very minimal debt-equity ratio. Even if some requirement is there, we could get some debt and fund it on a temporary basis.

Darshil Jhaveri

Okay. Yeah.

That's it from my side. Thank you so much, sir.

Anup Nair

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today.

I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for their closing remarks.

Anup Nair

Just want to thank everyone for joining the call, and hope we have sort of met up to the expectations. We look forward to all of you guys joining the next call.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of ICICI Securities, that concludes this conference call.

Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.