Sandy Spring Bancorp, Inc.

Sandy Spring Bancorp, Inc.

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Q4 FY2014 · Earnings Call TranscriptJanuary 22, 2015

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Executives

Ronald E. Kuykendall - EVP, General Counsel and Secretary Daniel J.

Schrider - President and Chief Executive Officer Philip J. Mantua – EVP and Chief Financial Officer

Analysts

Catherine Mealor - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. Bryce W.

Rowe - Robert W. Baird & Co.

Matthew C. Schultheis - Boenning & Scattergood, Inc.

William J. Wallace - Raymond James & Associates, Inc.

Operator

Good day everyone and welcome to the Sandy Spring Bancorp Incorporated Earnings Conference Call and Webcast for the Fourth Quarter of 2014. All participants will be in a listen-only mode.

[Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please also note that today’s event is being recorded.

At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Daniel J.

Schrider, President and CEO. Sir, please go ahead.

Daniel J. Schrider

Thank you Jamie and good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us for Sandy Spring Bancorp’s conference call to discuss our performance for the fourth quarter of 2014 and the full-year just ended.

This is Dan Schrider speaking and I’m joined here today by Phil Mantua, our Chief Financial Officer; and Ron Kuykendall, General Counsel for Sandy Spring Bancorp. As is normally the case, today’s call is open to all investors, analysts and the news media, and there will be a live webcast of today’s call, as well as a replay of the call available at our website beginning later today.

A technical setback on part delayed distribution of today’s press release by approximately two hours. I know that may of your rely on those to prepare for our call and prepare your questions.

So I apologize for any inconvenience that’s caused and we are very happy to answer any questions you might have either today on the call or after, but before we get started, Ron will cover the customary Safe Harbor statement.

Ronald E. Kuykendall

Thank you, Dan and good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. Sandy Spring Bancorp will make forward-looking statements in this webcast that are subject to risk and uncertainties.

These forward-looking statements include statements of goals, intentions, earnings and other expectations, estimates of risks and future costs and benefits, assessments of probable loan and lease losses, assessments of market risk and statements of the ability to achieve financial and other goals. These forward-looking statements are subject to significant uncertainties, because they are based upon or affected by management’s estimates and projections of future interest rates, market behavior and other economic conditions, future laws and regulations and a variety of other matters which by their very nature are subject to significant uncertainties.

Because of these uncertainties, Sandy Spring Bancorp’s actual future results may differ materially from those indicated. In addition, the Company’s past results of operations do not necessarily indicate its future results.

Daniel J. Schrider

Thank you Ron. Today as usual, I will share prepared remarks as I look back on the fourth quarter and also the full-year and then we’ll move to your questions.

The goal of the call is to both hit the highlights and provide a better sense of core operating performance given a number of unique expense items that impacted both the fourth quarter and the full-year. As reported earlier, net income for 2014 was $38.2 million versus $44.4 million for 2013 and net income for the fourth quarter 2014 was $9.1 million compared to $9.6 million in Q4 2013 and $11.1 million in the linked third quarter of 2014.

Obviously our performance in the most recent quarter is less than the street expected and we intend to provide some colors as to why. But let me first detail what excites us about where we are and how well we believe we are positioned for the future going into 2015.

During our earnings call in January of last year, I shared with you our strategic initiative to align our unique culture and team of outstanding employees with the very things that our clients say are important to them, all that create a consistent and remarkable experience for our clients. We believe the outcome of this effort will be consistent financial results from a fiercely loyal client base made up of our greatest advocates and will create a competitive advantage that is unique, identifiable and lasting.

This strategic journey continues and is driving both results and ongoing strategic direction. Total loans they increased 12% compared to the fourth quarter of 2013 and 5% on a linked quarter basis.

As we have stated previously, we continue to look for balanced loan growth from our key segments of commercial residential mortgage and consumer lending. This is all organic representing core client relationships and without compromising traditional sound underwriting practices in what has been a prolonged soft economy.

This is and will continue to be the hallmark of Sandy Spring’s lending philosophy. We have also had wonderful success in growing both retail and commercial deposit relationships which has driven year-over-year increase at 18% and combined non-interest bearing and interest bearing transaction account balances.

Again,, all organic core representing net growth and retail in commercial household as well as growing the penetration of these relationships with complementary products and services. Given our lending successes and management of our funding cost, our net interest margin expanded to 3.44% for the fourth quarter of 2014 compared to the linked third quarter and lacked the noise of interest recoveries that occurred in the third quarter of 2013.

There are pretty clean margin for the quarter. We continue to be encouraged by the success of our Wealth Management business line in growing revenue and new client relationships.

This is an increasingly strong niche for us in the greater Washington region with asset under management now at $2.76 billion at quarter end. We like the diversification that our fee based businesses and wealth and insurance contribute to our revenue stream while also recognizing that we had a soft fourth quarter.

However, this is not indicative of our confidence in these business lines moving forward, after all wealth management revenue grew 9% year-over-year. Our channel optimization work has led us to consolidate two additional branches in the quarter as well as relocate and transform an office within the vibrant Bethesda market into a state of the art financial center where we're using technology and innovative staffing approaches beneath the ever-changing ways in which clients desire to do business.

We believe continuing to rationalize our branch footprint is critical to our long-term success. Tomorrow we’ll begin relocating 300 employees into a newly designed work environment which promotes collaboration, creativity and team work.

We’ve capitalized on the lease rates available in the current market to provide our employees a much improved work environment, our Columbia Center which is located in Howard County, Maryland houses multiple divisions and departments within our company. And while the expense run rate implications of this move is neutral, fourth quarter expenses will impact it on a non-recurring basis.

Capital remains a core strength for us with total risk based capital at 15.06%, Tier-1 at 13.95% and Tier-1 leverage at 11.26%, and our capital deployment strategy remains unchanged since our last call and includes continued consideration of all the following: bank M&A, non-bank M&A, dividend payouts and share repurchases. We continue to be successful in expanding our team by adding to our existing competencies.

For example, new talent in our Wealth Management businesses, enhancing our financial planning and portfolio management capabilities. We hired additional mortgage originators to expand our presence in key markets within our geography, and finally our credit quality metrics remain strong with a solid allowance, excellent NPA coverage and a nice reduction in non-performing loans.

These areas that I have just highlighted represents some of the core elements of our strategies and performance that cause us to optimistic as we continue in 2015. And now I would like to give you some more details on the items that specifically impacted our earnings miss in the fourth quarter and if there are additional questions, Phil and I will be glad to address them.

First, we experienced heightened EFT Fraud losses which peaked and subsided within the fourth quarter. Second, branch closing expenses impacted the fourth quarter and we're about equal year-over-year to similar expenses in the fourth quarter of 2013.

Third, the non-recurring overlap of occupancy cost in the fourth quarter related to the new Columbia Center I mentioned earlier. Fourth, there was a one time accounts receivable write-off in the insurance subsidiary during the fourth quarter and last impacting our earning for the year and as reported previously was a $6.5 million in unexpected litigation expense that continues to accrue interest as we work through the appeal process.

We remain optimistic regarding the positive outcome and know it will be a slow drawn out process. Our press release dated May 16, 2014 provides more detail on the case.

All-in-all the after tax EPS impact of these items is estimated as $0.06 for the fourth quarter of 2014 and $0.22 for the year and hopefully that provides the needed detail to appreciate our core performance. So with the impact of the aforementioned expenses behind us the momentum of the balance loan and core deposit growth, continued success in wealth management and other fee-based business lines, the quality of our team of experienced bankers and multiple initiatives creating remarkable client experiences, we are well positioned for a bright future as a premier community bank in one of the nation’s most attractive markets.

That concludes my comments for today and we will now move to your questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen at this time we’ll begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Catherine Mealor from KBW.

Please go ahead with your question. Ms.

Mealor your line is open. It is possible your phone is on mute?

Catherine Mealor

Yes, I was on mute. Sorry about that.

Good afternoon everyone.

Daniel J. Schrider

Hi, Catherine.

Philip J. Mantua

Hi, Catherine.

Catherine Mealor

Sorry, I was just talking away. Dan, can you talk a little bit about the insurance line as well and remind us of the typical seasonality that we may see in that line?

Philip J. Mantua

Catherine this is Phil. There is no question that there is some seasonality in that business and that would normally include the fourth quarter as well as some seasonality in the first quarter which will be upon us here in the next couple of months.

The first quarter usually had some of that primarily due to the receipt of contingency based income from the carriers and the fourth quarter normally had some seasonality in our physicians’ liability type insurance which actually is to more - normally to the – more to the accretive side than what we had here. But as part of our accounts receivable work we also looked at some of our revenue recognition efforts that take place through the subsidiary and some of that income that were normally received by the end of the December is actually going to fall into the first part of January and therefore make the first quarter even that much different than it might have in the past.

So those are the places that we normally see that, but on balance we normally have somewhere between $4.5 million or $5 million of revenue annually and look for their growth rate in that part of the business to be low double-digits year-over-year.

Catherine Mealor

Okay, thank you, that’s helpful. And then Dan, appreciate your commentary around the expenses and just wanted to ask about one of those line items that you talked about in the occupancy expense.

So it looks like that came up just because of the double occupancy expense with the Columbia center, so backing that out is that - will we fall back to those kind of similar occupancy run rate that we’ve seen in the front half of the year around $3.2 million $3.3 million or – go ahead.

Philip J. Mantua

I am sorry.

Catherine Mealor

No, just go ahead, go ahead.

Philip J. Mantua

No, Catherine finish I’m sorry I jumped in on you.

Catherine Mealor

Yes, I was just going to say a word should we see growth from there, from the new Bethesda office and some of the hires that you talked about too?

Philip J. Mantua

Okay, yes, this is Phil again, if you didn’t already know from my jump in there. In that number in the fourth quarter is the combination of the rent expense that we incurred by virtue of technically having occupied both facilities and that’s worth about $400,000 in the quarter.

And then there is also in that delta from the third quarter some of the costs for when we close the branches that Dan referred to in his opening remarks. So the majority of that I think that’s 800 and some odd thousand dollar variances is going to add back and not reoccur.

There is some incremental occupancy cost from the change in the Bethesda operations between the branch we left and the financial service center that we are occupying. It is not going to materially change that number here right away, but it will – there will be some increase.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryce Rowe from Robert W. Baird.

Bryce W. Rowe

Thanks, good afternoon. I think Catherine covered my questions about the expenses - the non-core expenses, just wanted to also touch on maybe some of the pricing on the loan side, obviously in a handful of the loan portfolio buckets we saw some good growth especially from an average perspective and we saw loan pricing go down particularly in the construction and development bucket, the commercial real estate non-owner occupied bucket and the C&I bucket, so just trying to get a feel for what do you expect from those loan segments going forward from a pricing and growth perspective.

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes, Bryce, this is Dan. I’ll probably – I’ll comment more on the growth I know Phil is digging out some of the pricing information.

We’re really pleased with obviously with the growth that we achieved in 2014 as a whole, which lines up with kind of the way we were commenting on the year. And in fact fourth quarter, obviously ended up being pretty darn strong towards the end of the quarter.

And in our outlook in those buckets it continues to be I mean it’s still difficult economy but we are proving that we can win our fair share of business which still is often times stealing business to continue the growth that we are seeing. I wouldn’t apply the fourth quarter growth rate necessarily across the 2015, but you know that double-digit loan growth is still something we think we can achieve, and I think it’s important as I commented to realize that we’re not stepping outside of our credit box or our credit appetite to achieve that.

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Philip J. Mantua

Yes, Bryce in terms of, a little bit of granularity there but without getting into too much detail I mean our current overall commercial loan portfolio yields about 4.74, 4.75 and the majority on kind of a blended average basis that was booked in the overall commercial portfolio during the fourth quarter was more like 4.45 to maybe 4.50. So just within the commercial loan book certainly there is still some compression to be had on a portfolio average versus current production rate basis.

I think though that, what we also recognize though in terms of our overall margin which is part of that where we want get to an answer too is that the stability there - the expansion related to that, though is again that the pickup from no longer being is depended on the investment portfolio yield that’s more like 3.00 to 3.05 and even picking up 4.45 or 4.50 in the loan portfolio. So the yields within some of those specific categories are on both sides of the average as you might imagine with maybe one or two category exceptions though, we're still looking at current production yields that are less than the yields of which are most likely going to continue to roll down and so that’s probably the best way to view the yield within commercial portfolio itself and also within the context of a broader margin.

Bryce W. Rowe

Great, that’s helpful and I think last time Phil you guys talked about the securities portfolio being a source of liquidity and with the potential for it to trade down to maybe 15% of assets overtime. Is that still a pretty good target for us to think about?

Philip J. Mantua

I don’t think there is any question about that yes, and we’ve made some progress here as we got through the – to that end to the end of the year, I mean investment portfolio at year was down to 21%, it could certainly be lower, but as we’ve discussed before we’ve chosen to take advantage of the interest rate environment and continue to use some short-term home loan bank funding and allow us to even maintain some of that 3% yield for the time being and based on some of the timing with some of the loan growth during the quarter you may also recognize that the year-end position of the home loan bank advance is elevated from other times during the year, not terribly different than what happened at the end of last year as well and we slowly migrate down some of the excess as is possible through either deposit growth or other changes on the asset side.

Bryce W. Rowe

Great that’s helpful. Thank you.

Philip J. Mantua

You are welcome.

Daniel J. Schrider

Thanks Bryce.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matthew Schultheis from Boenning. Please go ahead with your question.

Matthew C. Schultheis

Hi good afternoon.

Daniel J. Schrider

Good afternoon Matt.

Philip J. Mantua

Hey Matt.

Matthew C. Schultheis

A couple of really quick question and I’m sorry if I missed some of this during the prepared remarks or even answering some of the questions, but your other income decreased linked quarter fairly substantially below what the long-term run rate is for that usually. What explains that?

Philip J. Mantua

Matt Phil again, a couple of things, one other thing that’s in that category during this quarter is the way that we account for the disposition of fixed assets that might be involved in the branch closures, we just met a gain or loss on to the other income side of the equation and there is about $225,000 worth of that that brings that category down from prior quarters or even the fourth quarter of last year, so that’s one aspect of it. The other thing is and we’ve just been fortunate in some of these other areas throughout the year in that category by its nature as we run things like prepayment fees that we collect as loans get extinguished earlier whatever and they’ve been – we’ve actually had a fair amount of that in prior quarter as we did not have it in any great degree in the fourth quarter.

And then the other thing it runs through there that is bounces around is any success we have with the gain on the sale of SBA loans. So to kind of more directly answer your question, I think a reasonable level in that category on average loan balance is more like $1.4 million not maybe a $1.7 million like it has been another times and certainly not $1 million like it is in this quarter, but kind of right square in the middle of that range.

Matthew C. Schultheis

And then moving into this $1.1 million in non-recurring expense for bankcard losses and adjustments to insurance receivables. How much of that is tied to the fraud losses that you talked about and related to that should we be viewing fraud losses not just for Sandy Spring, but for maybe everybody will follow as an ongoing operating expense given the in terms of nature of how people are using their cards and exposure to cyber security issues and things of that nature?

Daniel J. Schrider

Matt, this is Dan that category was from a breakdown of first part of this question.

Philip J. Mantua

Yes, first part of your question, answer to first part of your question is in the quarter Matt, it’s about half of each about 500,000 to 550,000 a piece in terms of the mix of that number.

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes, I think the later part of your question, the short answer Matt is yes, I think it is a well what occurred, we certainly don’t expect what occurred in the fourth quarter the absolute level that we experienced would be typical, but I think it’s the nature of the business today and even more so the result affected there has been no resolution to reaches our retailers and the ultimate liability that’s falling to financial institutions. So I know that something congress is working on later in 2015, October specifically is when the EMV card mandate comes into play which we are actually prepared to do around midyear and which will impact some of it, but not all of it.

So I think it’s a nature of the business right now.

Matthew C. Schultheis

Okay. Thank you very much.

Philip J. Mantua

You’re welcome.

Daniel J. Schrider

Thank you, Matt.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from William Wallace from Raymond James.

William J. Wallace

Good afternoon, gentlemen.

Daniel J. Schrider

Hi, Walli.

William J. Wallace

Phil, maybe expanding a little bit on some of Bryce’s questions. If you kind of put it all together it sounds like your budget is for low double-digit loan growth some continued funding of that growth [out of your] core securities portfolio with pressure from loan yields just given the competitive environment, which is kind of just put it all together what is your expectation for the movement in margin in 2015?

Philip J. Mantua

I would suggest that we think it’s fairly overall not taking into consideration what the Fed might do which is always continues to be a wildcard or even trying not to prognosticate on the long end and which direction it might go on to just based on the things that you suggested we think that means if that margins fairly stable.

William J. Wallace

Okay, and if I look at your reserves you’ve had some pretty good loan growth in the past couple of years and you’ve really been leading the reserves just as from a reserves to loan perspective.

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes.

William J. Wallace

I know you have to weigh the requirements for GAAP versus what the regulators are telling you what’s the level if we think about your reserve to loans as a ratio, what’s the level that you guess think you wouldn’t be comfortable crossing low?

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes, Walli, this is Dan, I think the obviously you’ve recognized kind of this trend we’ve been through fourth quarter we did have some provision expense and I think as you move into 2015 we are at – we are gotten near that bottom on the reserve to loans and so our expectation would be that would travel in that 120s band, again still methodology driven, but to your point of kind of our comfort level we are pretty close to where we think provisions would increase most likely we actually talked last year we kind of expected that the way loan growth in the way resolutions came in we just didn’t see it materialize, so it stood on our quarter-by-quarter basis.

Philip J. Mantua

Yes, and I might add to that Walli a little bit below the surfaces that we are getting the point where our NPA levels are that there is not a lot of specific reserve left in that reserve to be released on a loan-by-loan basis if based on the way the accounting works. So that’s part of how we released in the past as when we have these specific transactions or whatever and then we don’t have the need for that as we exit those credits that’s where the releases have come from for the most part.

William J. Wallace

Okay, thanks. And then my last question just shifting gears a little bit maybe you can just give us a little bit of color about what happened with that insurance accounts receivable that cost you in the quarter?

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes, this is - it is basically an analysis of our aging within the receivables in the agency and determining that based on the practice of when receivables are flowing through there versus the aging of the balance itself. We just deem that there is likely some of that that was uncollectible and decided to adjust and deal with that here in the fourth quarter of the year.

So something we looked at for a while and then finally came to the conclusion that we needed to write-off a portion of it.

William J. Wallace

So, this is multiple receivables. Dan.

Daniel J. Schrider

Yes, this is something that probably a little bit of the time over a period of off time kind of built its way through to a balance that was probably greater than it really should have been and so we’ve recognized that here maybe adjustment. And it does not have any bearing on future collections or future cash flows that are related to the revenue stream it’s just something that we thought we needed to address looking back over time.

William J. Wallace

Okay. Thanks Phil, Dan.

Appreciate your time.

Daniel J. Schrider

Thanks, Walli.

Philip J. Mantua

You’re welcome.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And sir at this time, I am showing no additional questions. I’d like turn the conference call back over for any closing remarks.

Daniel J. Schrider

All right. Thank you Jamie and thank you all for participating with us this afternoon, we value that and we want to remind you that we’d appreciate receiving your feedback to help us evaluate the effectiveness of our call.

You can e-mail your comments at [email protected]. Thanks again, and have a great afternoon.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today’s conference call. We do thank you for attending.

You may now disconnect your telephone lines.