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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptApril 24, 2026

Krister Magnusson

A big excuse for the concern regarding the technical issue we had with Teams this morning. We're doing this completely ourselves, we don't have an agency and so on.

I think it was some sort of update with what I heard regarding Teams, there was some concern there. Now I'm really glad that you all are on this call.

As usually, this call will be recorded, we put that out on our web page later on. Also, as usual, Maria Fogelström, our CFO, joined this call and will help me answer questions and so on, if any.

Also, Maria, yes, for questions, how to do when you want to ask questions?

Maria Fogelström

Yes. If you have any questions, please use the Q&A function.

The chat is turned off during the meeting, but you can still use the Q&A.

Krister Magnusson

Super good. Thank you.

I will start by sharing my screen. I hope you all see the screen now.

Jumping directly in to the numbers here for the Q1 reporting. As you can see or saw that the order intake is decreased by 18%.

We have a big currency effect in the quarter, and I will come back in a separate slide about the currency effect and how that is calculated and why and so on. There's been quite cautious.

Also, the Q4 last year in order intake was quite strong. That also impacted the Q1 order intake this quarter.

As I said, big currency effect. Looking at the sales number, also down, actually, in consolidated Swedish krona numbers by 16%.

Actually, the currency effect stands for 10%. Sales adjusted for the currency effect, it was -16%.

Then there is also another specific order that last year came in in Q1, and this year it will come in Q2. It's not saying that we have lost it and so on.

It's a calendar effect depending on if it comes in Q1 and or in Q2. This year, it comes in Q2.

After all these adjustments or this adjustments, it was quite flat quarter. Still, it's still a bit cautious out in the market, luxury and also outdoor.

I think what's happened in Middle East doesn't improve the situation. I think, in general, the end consumer is a little bit more cautious, also affecting our first quarter.

Coming back to the currency effect, how that is get calculated, there is a consolidation in financial numbers. The balance sheet is consolidated using the balance sheet end of date, end of 31st of March numbers currency rate, and profit and loss is calculated by using the average numbers for the quarter.

The way we calculated the currency effect, we don't have almost no invoicing in Swedish krona. All invoicing is done abroad, either in euro or in Hong Kong dollar or in US dollar, and so on.

Of course, we're consolidating the group by using the average rate for the P&L and the balance sheet for the balance sheet. Then we got the consolidated numbers.

Then we do the similar consolidation again, but using the rate we had end of March last year. The difference that we get there is the currency effect.

The way we calculate it is that means that, yeah, in Hong Kong, we calculate by Hong Kong dollar; in China, with Chinese renminbi; and Bangladesh, with BDT; etc. On these slides, you can see here the big impact if you compare first quarter last year with the quarter this year.

Here, on this table, you have the average rate, and the below table, you have the balance sheet rate. The balance sheet is for the balance sheet end of date rate, and here is the average rate during the quarter.

As you can see, and also as you most likely know, the Swedish krona has been quite volatile during the quarter, from being really strong in the beginning and getting weak in the end. That also has a big impact if you take Hong Kong dollar, 40% in average and stronger Swedish krona, and the Indian rupees, and so on.

If you look at the balance sheet rate, Hong Kong dollar here is 5.9% as per balance sheet date end of March. These rates here impact the P&L, and these rates here impact the balance sheet.

It's the difference. The reason I'm explaining this is that I sometimes get questions, because some look only at this end of the quarter rates, and can compare.

Here is the average rate during the quarter, which has an impact on the P&L. We had an operating profit of 15.4 million versus 23 last year.

We had some non-recurring cost of 2.3 million, where 1.8 is related to a structural project cost. What is that?

We want to grow, we have taken cost for project. Not going into detail, I cannot do that now.

What will come out of this, it's too early to say. I will come back on that if and when it happens.

When and if it happens, I don't know yet, [cough] but there's something we are working on, and we've taken costs for this project. It is that we want to grow, so that is part of that.

Then other personal cost is that we want to move, and we need to have focusing on the right things. That means that we are decreasing costs in some areas, increasing costs in some area.

During this change, there will be one-off costs, and that was here in the quarter. This was not much normally, I probably not would mention that, but these two together with this one make 2.3 million.

I thought to be transparent for you, I think it was worth mentioning. Adjusted for this, the operating profit is 17 17.7.

This year, we also have some other costs, also, I would say, offensive growth cost we've taken. Hopefully, the intent that this will bear fruit in the coming quarters.

Holland, we started up a new company. We've taken cost here.

US, we employed three more employees last year, that was not in the Q1. Sri Lanka, we started up a new company as well.

We putting efforts in for the future growth. We have a strong balance sheet with a net cash position of 56 million Swedish that we need for the growth and what we aiming for.

The income, as most likely, it's very much volume driven. A quarter with lower volumes also gives less operating profit and operating margin.

The goal here is to be between 10% to 12% minimum. We have way to go, and how to reach that is by both volume driven, but also looking at the cost side.

This is exercise we are working on. Looking at '25 compare on product group with 2026, there has been a decrease in packaging from 20 to 14.

At the same time, if you remember me, I used to say that now we putting more efforts into packaging, this is contradictory. That order that I mentioned in Q1 that will come in Q2, that is a packaging order.

That will means that packaging will be stronger in Q versus Q1. Looking at the quarterly here, the Q1, we had a really strong gross margin.

If you compare to the history the last years, the strong gross margin, it depends on different things. One is the product mix.

As we didn't get this packaging order, the packaging has in general lower margin, that will then be impact on the Q2 lower gross profit in the Q2. In Q1, that also made it opposite, there was a really strong gross margin.

The product mix has one thing. Also, the more in-house production we get, the higher gross margin we also get.

Especially in Bangladesh and Portugal. Then, of course, also that the US dollar has some impact here.

The weaker US dollar, as we are selling some in euro, there will be some that we are buying in US dollar. That had also some dollar effect.

Cost side, as I mentioned, we are looking now to move cost from one side to another, and we will do some sort of cost-saving program. At the same time, we will spend efforts in other areas as well.

It's to be having the right resources at the right areas. Operating margin, as I mentioned, we are not pleased with that in the quarter, and the goal is to be 10% to 12% in the future.

This is same showing the numbers, but in a graph, with a lower sales in Q1 and also the lower operating profit here. Jumping further, and here is the balance sheet, Maria.

Maria Fogelström

Yes. As Krister mentioned, we have a strong balance sheet with a net cash of 56 56 million Swedish kronor.

As you can see here, we have cash amounting to 102 million Swedish kronor, which is quite much, but we have also chosen not to take it out, as we have upcoming investments in Bangladesh. We have intentionally left money in Bangladesh to be able to finance the investments there.

I also want to highlight the inventory levels, because I see that we already have received a question about the inventory levels. That is a constant focus area for us.

The levels we have now are reasonable, but, of course, they will depend on the sales as well. We keep focusing on the inventory level, and the levels are reasonable for now.

As you can see, they have decreased compared to Q1 last year. On the cash flow side, some short comments as well.

As you can see, there is quite a big effect in the accounts receivables during the period. We had that in Q1 2025 as well, and that is mainly related to seasonal effects within the quarter, where, for example, March was a stronger period than January.

It is also related to specific clients with different payment terms, which can have quite a big impact on the accounts receivable levels. There is also quite a big change for the other liabilities, but a big portion of that is also related to timing differences between other liabilities and accounts payables.

Krister Magnusson

Very good. Thank you.

Key financial indicators, we'll not go through these in detail. I just want to mention the average number of employees that has gone up since 2021, as you can see, mainly in Bangladesh and Portugal.

At the moment, I don't foresee that we will increase the number of employees until the new factory in Bangladesh is ready. We have increased number of employees for existing production both in Bangladesh and Portugal, and we also build up the new factory in Vietnam and so on.

Here will be relatively stable until the factory in Bangladesh will be ready, which we predict to be in the middle of next year, sometime. Some comments: cautious market in Q1, we talked about; big currency effect, we talked about.

The proposed dividend is still the 1.50 that we said in the last interim report. We have managed to succeed with the Science Based Targets.

It's something to be approved here, so that is really good, and also good for some of our clients that are asking for that. We are one of the few label companies that has been approved for this now, so that is really good.

Also in terms of marketing, that we show that we are a reliable supplier. In Portugal, we have now a new Managing Director with a long international experience.

I'm really happy to announce that, to have that director on board. Elisabete, the previous MD, is now retiring, there will be a period of overlapping.

I'm really confident that this new MD will make Nilorn Portugal taking the next step. Really good on that.

Nilorn Bangladesh factory, the new project is ongoing. It's a lot of getting all these designs and so on.

We have the land now, and they have not started with the building project, not yet. It's a lot of getting all compliance and so on in place.

Not so much more to update on that, but we expect to be ready to move into the factory in middle of 2027. Then, of course, it takes time until the factory is up and running in full.

We have expected the half of the investment of this $10 million to be machineries. The machineries will be invested not all at once.

We will invest during a period once we get the orders and so on. Of course, we will need to have a original setup of machineries and so on from start, and then we will add on more as the ordering comes and the turnover start.

We have done quite a big investment in the past. Now what I meant by that is that we are really strong in these areas.

We can see that if you compare Nilorn with other smaller competitors, the market is quite fragmented, with a few really big players and smaller ones. This is also why we see that more and more smaller companies are up for sales.

This is also the demand from our clients. That's also why we're focusing on all this with specialists and both the sustainability, CSR compliance, sourcing, material specialists, and packaging.

We will have a much stronger offer towards our client. We increase the production capacity.

That is also terms of higher margin once we will do this, but also in terms of demand from our clients to be a more relevant supplier, and also in terms of CSR compliance, as it's more easy when you have your own production. We marketing strengthening in US.

We now established in Holland, and we are still not employed a Chief Commercial Officer. That is something that we will continue to work on.

We are quite picky on this one to find the right person here, and we still have not found it. We're still looking for that.

Consolidation in the market, we want to take part of that, we are working on that. Here, I show this also earlier, this is where we were 5 years ago, and this is why we now expanded.

We've always been strong in design. We have had a strong balance sheet, and we have a strong balance sheet, we can take the next step.

We have moved out in the packaging, having now a category managing to be able to support and taking that next step. We have been really strong moved out in the sustainable, CSR, employing different units.

I don't know if you've seen, but I would give you an advice: look at the Nilorn annual report, where we also have the sustainability report. It's really impressive, I would say, the job we are doing here.

It would also say quite much about Nilorn and the steps we've taken. Nilorn Connect, digital solution, coming back to that a little bit later.

Here is the moves that we want to take the coming 5 years. We want to be stronger within RFID.

We want to be strong within heat transfer. Heat transfer, we have many clients working with heat transfer in the outdoor industry.

We are not strong in that. We have so much to be done here.

Also the packaging, we will continue to move out, digital solution, and increase our own production to move that out. Why heat transfer?

What is heat transfer? Heat transfer is on the other when it's pressed with heat, and it's not printed into the textile, but we deliver this, and it's printed or pressed on the garment in the factory, in the garment factory.

This is heat transfer. Why we have not been strong in that in the past is that heat transfer is a very technical product, we need more knowledge in-house.

This is an area, if we can make some sort of acquisitions, I think heat transfer would be really suitable for us. We have the client, but we are not strong in this, the synergies would as I see it, is good here.

Nilorn Connect is our digital solution. This is something that it's a demand from our client to help and enable them to connect with the end consumers and to fulfill the DPP and the legislation within that.

This is mainly through QR codes and connection through that. Then we have RFID, it's with antenna inside.

As you can see down here, it's an antenna in these labels. This is more on the logistic side.

This is started with a really, really big retailers, and then it's moving down for the medium and small clients as well. This is becoming much more frequent also for us.

Here, it's super volume driven. You need to have big volumes to have a good margin, because it's a quite low margin product.

Here, we will work on getting the bigger volumes in here as well. I can see the time is running.

We're aiming for the operating margin of at least 10%. This is what we should get back to.

When we will do that, I think here we look at the cost side, but also once we get more and more in-house production, we will come up here again. Will it be this year or will it be next year, I cannot say, but this is clearly goal for us to work on that.

That was very much on the presentation side. Maria, sorry for rushing in the end, but I see the time is flying, and I have also presentation for the staff coming up here very soon.

Maria, any questions?

Maria Fogelström

Thank you, Krister. We have received some questions.

Some of these have already been addressed to during the presentation, I will pick the ones that I think are the most relevant and that we haven't discussed so much in detail. We have received one question about the volumes, and it is: can you raise your volume significantly by bringing in new customers, or are you dependent on your existing customers?

Krister Magnusson

Good questions. We are now focusing more and more on getting bigger clients on board, and we have some.

That is the advantage, disadvantage with this business, I would say. It takes time to get new clients on board, but the client you have is also very loyal.

We're aiming for getting new clients on board. At the same time, we're also working on getting a wider range of the product range on the existing clients.

We're working actually on the both things now. Getting more focus on that, focus on the big clients and less on the small.

We have quite long tail of small clients, but we are shifting focus now within the group.

Maria Fogelström

Yes, thank you. We also received a question about the luxury segment: do you still expect normalising in luxury during summer?

Krister Magnusson

Good questions. We see some uncertainty in that, I'm a little bit more hesitant about that.

I think maybe more towards the autumn time now and not in the summer time as we predicted in the past.

Maria Fogelström

Thank you. I see the time is running out, but there are two more questions I would like to ask, we will take these two as well.

The first one was about the order intake: you mentioned a strong pipeline, but can you give us any concrete metrics on pipeline size and conversion timelines to help us gauge where orders are heading in Q2 and for the half year?

Krister Magnusson

Yeah. The biggest impact between the quarters is the packaging one that I declared that will come in Q2 that was in Q1 last year.

It is a certain uncertainty in the market. Especially, I think what's going on in the world at the moment, it's not one client, it's more a general trend.

We foresee that we are in the market, and we think that it will come up again here. We also, as you mentioned earlier, this big currency impact on this.

We not lost clients, anything like that. It's more time-like.

Maria Fogelström

One final question that I thought was interesting: how are customers reacting to Nilorn Connect? Do the customers want to have their data in your system, or can it be integrated within the company's own data systems?

Krister Magnusson

Absolutely good question there. I would say that our is in the hub in the center where we're collecting data from the client system.

We can share with the end consumers, and we collect data from different systems. We are not owner of the data, we are owner of statistics.

Then we package it in a nice way that we present for the end consumers, but also back to the brand owners. We can take data from different systems, different sources in systems, we will be there in the center helping our client out with this.

Also for them to fulfill the legislation, I think it start off very much to fulfill the DPP regulations, and then also for them to have the possibility to talk with the end consumers through the QR code, mainly.

Maria Fogelström

That sounds good. Unfortunately, I think that was all for today.

For you who feels that you haven't really got any answers to your questions, please feel free to reach out to me or Krister, and we will come back to you separately.

Krister Magnusson

Thank you very much for listening, and sorry once again for the hassles we have in the beginning. Hopefully, it will be better next time so we can start on time.

Thank you very much for being with us. Thank you.

Maria Fogelström

Thank you.