Mohamed Farhan
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Mohamed Farhan, Head of Investor Relations, and I welcome you all to the Commercial Bank Full Year 2025 Results and the Strategy Update.
On this call, I have on to my left, Stephen Moss, who is the Group Chief Executive Officer of Commercial Bank, and to my far left is Noman Ali, who is the Chief Financial Officer of Commercial Bank. During the duration of this call, we'll put you on mute and once the presentation is complete, I'll come back to you for questions and answers.
Now, I hand over to Stephen Moss, who will provide an update on our strategy.
Stephen Moss
Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you, Farhan.
For those of you who don't know me, my name is Stephen Moss. I joined as Group CEO of the Commercial Bank on the 1st of August last year.
Now, today, as Farhan said, we're going to talk you through the next phase of our strategy for the period from 2026 to 2030, which we've been working on for the last few months. Now, we're building this strategy on a very strong retail and wealth franchise, particularly amongst expats, where we support multi-product cross-sell relationships as well as long-tenured relationships.
On the wholesale side, we are also a trusted banking partner with high-quality transaction banking and a high-quality payments platform, both of which are well-positioned to scale fee-based income. Overall, we have a strong reputation as the leading digital- and innovation-driven bank in Qatar, with award-winning customer service.
Now, the challenges we've worked to address in this strategic period from 2026 to 2030 are as follows: margin pressure from global rate normalization and increasing competition; increasingly sophisticated customer expectations in digital wealth and servicing; the increasing importance of capital efficiency and fee-based revenues; the need to fund continuing investment required in technology, people, and data capabilities; the need to draw a line under the legacy book and focus on managing the portfolio to target achieving a normalized cost of risk and a good trajectory for Stage 2 ratio reduction; the need to manage our property portfolio and divest property at the appropriate time; the need to improve our deposit mix and improve our cost of funding. Let me start with the big picture, as is set out on this slide, our strategic vision, ambition, and the priorities that will guide our execution.
At the top, our vision remains unchanged: to be Qatar's banking partner of choice, delivering long-term value for our customers, our people, and our shareholders. To realize that vision, we've set a clear ambition to build a stronger, more balanced, and sustainably profitable bank.
That means a more balanced business between retail and wholesale, a focus on generating more fee income and capital-light growth, and a business overall that consistently deliver returns across the cycle. We translated that ambition into clear strategic priorities that are set out in summary on this slide.
In retail, we're building on strength and broadening our ambition. We already have a leadership position in the expat segment, cards, and employee banking, and we plan to defend and grow that position.
At the same time, we plan to accelerate growth in the Qatari customer segment, particularly in the affluent and private banking customer segment, deepen wealth and advisory relationships by expanding our digital wealth tools, and drive stronger cross-sell and product penetration, leveraging our existing client base across lending, remittances, insurance, and savings. We are confident that our retail business will remain a consistent engine of value and a platform for digital-led growth going forward.
In wholesale, we plan to deliver more capital-efficient, cross-sell-driven growth: firstly, by growing the business in higher-return segments, with a focus on mid-corporates and SMEs, where we see attractive risk-adjusted returns and strong demand; secondly, by deepening our strategic relationships with GREs and top-tier corporates, positioning the bank as a lead partner for lending, FX, and cash management solutions; thirdly, by scaling our fee-based income, particularly in transaction banking, trade finance, and treasury; and finally, we're taking decisive action to resolve our legacy exposures, which will improve the overall risk profile of our credit book. In summary, we will be very focused on improving capital efficiency and portfolio returns, diversifying our funding base, maintaining strict cost discipline with positive jaws from 2027 onwards, and normalizing our cost of risk while improving our asset quality and our asset mix.
Now, delivery will be enabled by three strategic levers, as is set out on this slide, all of which we are investing in. Firstly, we will continue to modernize our technology.
This will support speed, scale, and efficiency across all of our businesses. Secondly, we will further enhance our digital delivery across onboarding, servicing, and cross-channel engagement.
We plan to maintain our leadership position in digital adoption in Qatar and push this further, particularly in personalization, mobile journeys, and integrated servicing. Third, we are simplifying our organization and building future skills.
This includes investing in analytics, AI, our product suite, our frontline talent, while reinforcing a values-driven performance culture based on clear ownership, accountability, collaboration, and execution. Let me speak a little minute about AI, which I see as one of the most powerful enablers of our strategy and an area where CBQ is moving early and with intent.
We launched our AI initiatives some years ago with a clear plan: build foundational capabilities, pilot high-impact use cases, and scale adoption in a way that delivers measurable business value. Over the last 18 months, we've made tangible progress.
We've invested in our core infrastructure, including our data architecture, GPU compute capability, and internal AI platforms, and we've already deployed several use cases in production. These include AI-powered document processing and a GenAI customer service assistant helping manage operational and call center emails.
These are not experiments. They are live, delivering value, and laying the foundation for the next phase of our use of AI.
Going forward, we will launch further AI initiatives with four clear value drivers: increasing operating income by using AI to better target customers, improve product matching, and drive smarter cross-sell and upsell; secondly, enhance customer experience by deploying AI and voice assistants to deliver faster, more personalized engagement; thirdly, improving process efficiency through automating operational workflows, such as credit limit reviews, onboarding, and origination, to reduce cost and accelerate execution; and fourthly, strengthening risk and compliance, and will be done by embedding AI across credit, fraud, and regulatory processes to proactively manage risk and reduce manual intervention. Together, these initiatives will help us unlock income, reduce our cost-to-income ratio, and enhance our risk management.
We believe we are well-positioned in AI adoption and our ability to embed it across every part of our business. Now, let me walk you through our consolidated targets for the strategy period.
Our aim is to deliver safe, sustainable profitability with strong risk and capital management discipline, and the targets we've set out on this slide reflect that objective. Firstly, from a profitability standpoint, we're setting a steady improvement in return on equity, supported by positive jaws from 2027 onwards.
Our cost-to-income ratio will improve over the period, driven by digital simplification, operating leverage, and cost discipline. Our net cost of risk will normalize to 70 to 90 basis points in 2028, as we said before, as we address our legacy exposures and continue strengthening our credit underwriting and risk management processes.
Prior to this, in each of 2026 and '27, we expect an elevated gross cost of risk, but lower than 2025, and a net cost of risk of between 80 to 100 basis points. On cost, we expect to deliver positive jaws, reflecting revenue growth outspacing cost growth, not just in 1 year, but consistently across the strategic period from 2027 onwards.
In terms of dividends, we are committed to target delivering a sustainable dividend over the period. Then on asset quality, we're targeting improving our coverage ratio, whilst reducing both NPLs and our Stage 2 ratio through active portfolio and risk management.
On capital, we will maintain a strong CET1 position and total CAR comfortably above regulatory minimums, while creating room for targeted strategic growth. These targets are grounded in our internal plans, which are based on the strategy work we've done over the last few months.
We will track these targets with the same level of discipline and transparency as those of you who know me would expect. To close out this section, I want to bring it back to what this strategy ultimately delivers.
From 2026 to 2030, we will focus on five clear strategic outcomes, each of which is designed to build a stronger, more resilient, and sustainably profitable Commercial Bank. We will draw a line under the legacy book, improving the quality of our balance sheet, freeing up capital to deploy towards higher-return opportunities.
We will reshape our business model to be more capital-efficient, fee-driven, and anchored in stable, lower-cost deposits, improving resilience and profitability across the cycle. We will position the bank to capture growth from Qataris, SMEs, and affluent clients, all of which are underpenetrated segments, where we believe we can deepen relationships and drive value.
Fourthly, we will continue to build on what we have thus far done with AI and use it to enhance service, automate operations, and improve decision-making across the bank. Finally, overall, we aim to deliver shareholder returns through disciplined execution of our strategy and a sustainable dividend.
Together, these actions will ensure we stay true to our commitment to deliver safe, sustainable profitability and long-term value for our shareholders. Thank you.
I'll now pass over to Noman, who will talk to the full-year results for 2025, and then we will take Q&A.
Noman Ali
Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining in. Getting into the results for the year ended 31st December 2025, I will focus mainly on slide number 14, which shows the consolidated financial highlights of the group, both on a reported and also after excluding the impacts of the Long Term Incentive Scheme.
In summary, the group reported a net profit before Pillar 2 tax of 2,384 million Qatari riyals for the year ended 31st December 2025 as compared to 3,032 million Qatari riyals for the year ended 31st December 2024. Core income momentum remained positive, with net interest income up by 3% and fees and other income up 10.8%, supported by continued balance sheet growth.
The year-on-year decline in profit primarily reflected higher net provisions, increased operating expenses, including IFRS 2-related Long Term Incentive Scheme movements, and a reported loss of Qatari riyals 144.7 million from our Turkish subsidiary, which includes the impact of hyperinflation. Further, due to the potential implementation of the BEPS Pillar 2 global minimum tax, a tax charge of 179.4 million was recorded, and our reported net profit after tax was 2,204.9 million Qatari riyals.
I would like to highlight that the group may benefit from certain available reliefs on the finalization of the draft executive regulations, resulting in the reversal of the Pillar 2 tax charge in 2026. Talking about our core businesses, our retail and wealth business continues to deliver good and consistent returns.
Our retail lending grew by 4.8% year on year. On the wholesale side, despite a challenging year, our lending book grew, whilst we also continued to focus on transaction banking services.
Our associates continued to perform well, with a 23.2% increase in their contribution, as we continue to work closely with them in the execution of their strategies. If we deep dive into the numbers in relation to the net operating income, our reported operating income is higher by 5.1% year on year.
This is driven primarily by increase in net interest income, net fees, and investment income. This was offset by increase in foreign exchange movements from our balance sheet management strategies.
Moving on, our net interest income increased by 3% year on year. Firstly, in relation to interest income, the gross interest income increased by 2%, driven by interest income from investment in debt securities, offset by lower interest income from loans to customers, primarily driven by reduction in market interest rates.
In relation to interest expense, whilst we had a reduction in interest expense on customer deposits due to a change in deposit mix, including CASA increase and decrease in deposit rates, this was outweighed by higher interest expense due to increase in our debt securities. As a result, our net interest margin stood at 2.2%, which we have maintained from the third-quarter levels.
NIM pressure is mainly due to stiff competition for domestic deposits, refinancing of some of our medium-term debt issuances, which were previously at a lower rate, and repricing lag between loans and deposits. For 2026, we will work towards maintaining our NIM around 2.2% with a downward pressure of 10 basis point.
Our strategy will include to aim to optimize the funding mix by increasing CASA deposits and also improve the deposit composition in the overall funding pool. Moving on to non-interest income, our core net fee and commission-based income increased as a result of retail banking fees, including wealth management and remittances, and on the wholesale banking fee side, in particular, cash management and payments.
Further, there was also an increase in the group's income from investment securities. In terms of operating expenses, the reporting operating costs were higher year on year, primarily due to bank's staff, technology, and automation-related cost, along with increase in operating costs from our Turkish subsidiary, which included certain rightsizing initiatives.
Further, the lower operating expenses for the previous year ended 31st December 2024 were also attributed to decreased staff-related LTIS cost due to decline in share price. If we were to exclude the LTIS impact on operating cost, the year-on-year increase is 6%.
As a result, the group's reported cost-to-income ratio reached 29.5%. At domestic level, the cost-to-income ratio on a reported basis now is 25.5%, supported by investment in fee-identified areas.
Alternatif Bank reported a cost-to-income ratio of 75% compared to 114.4% in the same period in 2024. Our cost-to-income ratio will improve structurally, driven by digital simplification, operating leverage, and cost discipline.
Going forward, we expect to maintain positive jaws, reflecting revenue growth outspacing cost, not in just 1 year, but consistently across the cycle starting 2027. Moving on, the net provisions increased to 1,193 million Qatari riyals for the year ended 31st December 2025 from 467 million Qatari riyals in the same period in 2024.
In relation to provisions to loans to customers, we continue to build our loan provisions in 2025. There was an increase in our gross provisions, which was in line with the management's approach of building provisions in the second half of 2025.
This increase was offset by significant recoveries of approximately 700 million for the year, as we continue to focus on remedial activities. It should be noted that our Stage 3 coverage ratio has improved to 60.4% from 52.8% in 2024, and the NPL ratio slightly decreased to 6.1% from 6.2%.
There is also reduction in Stage 2 balances, and our Stage 2 coverage ratio increased to 10.4% coverage ratio from 8.2% reported in 2024. For 2025, our net cost of risk on loans was 75 basis points, whilst the gross cost of risk was 148 basis points, our significant recoveries helped us reduce the net cost of risk to 75 basis points.
For 2026 and 2027, as we said before, we expect an elevated gross cost of risk at a slightly lower level as compared to 2025, and our net cost of risk to be between 80 to 100 basis points, slightly elevated when compared to our normalized levels. If the level of recoveries dip from what we expect in a single year, there is a risk that our net cost of risk will be elevated in that year.
From 2028, we expect a reduction to a more normalized net cost of risk of 70 to 90 basis points. Moving on to the balance sheet, the total assets were up by 16.4% year on year to 192.9 billion Qatari riyals.
Loans and advances to customers increased to 104.5 billion, which includes an increase in acceptances, which are trade-related items. If we exclude the increase in acceptances, the loan growth is approximately 5.7%.
This is driven by growth in wholesale lending, both in government and public sectors, as well as corporates. Further, our retail lending also continued to show good progress, with 4.8% growth year on year.
Going forward, we expect loan growth roughly 3% per annum in the medium term with prudent risk management. On the wholesale side, our focus will be to grow lending on higher-return customer segments and high-growth sectors.
On the retail side, we will aim to accelerate growth in the Qatari customer segment and maintain our leadership on the expat segment. Customer deposits increased by 16.2% to 89.4 billion Qatari riyals at 31st December 2025.
This is mainly driven by increase in time deposits as well as CASA deposits. Further, we continue to grow our low-cost deposits, which increased 4.5% year on year, reflecting our effort to diversify funding sources and strengthen balance sheet resilience.
Our capital remains strong. CET1 ratio and capital adequacy ratio stood at 12.2 and 17.6%, respectively, as we continue to generate profit and also focus on active capital management.
CET1 remained at similar levels post dividends. At the same time, the total CAR for full year 2025 increased to 17.6% from 17.2% in 2024, mainly as a result of AT1 capital, which increased due to lower deductions.
Going forward, we'll focus on sustainable dividends, whilst maintaining strong capital levels. Alternatif Bank reported net loss of 144.7 million Qatari riyals for the year ended 31st December 2025 compared to a net loss of 85.2 million Qatari riyals for the same period in 2024.
Although there is an improvement in performance at the operating profit level, the results were impacted by higher operating expenses due to certain rightsizing initiatives, as well as higher net provisions. Overall, the impact of hyperinflation accounting is 310 million Qatari riyals for the year ended 2025 across various lines.
Commercial Bank will continue to report under IAS 29 till Turkey continues to be classified as a hyperinflationary economy, and accordingly, there will be an ongoing impact to the profit and loss of Commercial Bank. Alternatif Bank at a consolidated CB level represents only 4% of the overall balance sheet size.
This is all from my side, and happy to take questions now.
Mohamed Farhan
Thank you, Noman. We can now move on to questions and answers.
If you have any questions, please raise your hand or you can also ask the question on the Q&A box. We have a question from Rahul Bajaj.
Rahul, please unmute yourself and go ahead.
Rahul Bajaj
Hi. This is Rahul Bajaj from Citi.
I have three set of questions actually, if I may. The first one is on the legacy exposure, and I see that you plan to draw a line under the legacy exposure and maybe do some accelerated provisioning over the next couple of years before provisioning normalizes.
To my understanding, provisioning on legacy exposure has been an ongoing exercise for most part of the last 10 years of CBQ, as far as I remember. Just wanted to understand what is left in the legacy exposure now.
If you can provide us some more color about the size of the legacy exposure, the coverage levels you hold, or kind of what kind of loans these are on which you continue to provide for the last 10 years and expect for more provisioning for the next few years as well? That would be my first question.
My second question is on dividends, actually. You talked about sustainable level of dividends going forward.
Can you please help me understand what do you mean by sustainable level of dividends? Can you provide some color around a payout ratio that you will target or will it be a Qatari riyal amount of dividend that you will try to keep at fixed?
Any further color will be appreciated. Related to this is actually on the buyback as well, which you announced last year.
Could you please provide us some guidance on where we are in that, and is that still on the table? That's my second question.
My third and final question is just on the tax element, the BEPS tax element. The 2026 targets that you have provided, does that include the tax reversal or what tax charge are you assuming in your guidance for 2026?
What tax percentage are you assuming for the 2030 targets that you've provided? That is what I have in terms of questions.
Thank you so much.
Noman Ali
Thank you,
Stephen Moss
Rahul. I think that's sneaky four questions.
On tax, Noman?
Noman Ali
Yeah. On tax, Rahul, from a budgeting perspective and targets perspective, we have not taken the impact, so that reversal will further benefit the numbers.
Stephen Moss
Yeah. Is that clear That's clear, yeah.
It's not in what we're showing. It would be an upside.
On dividends, very clearly, we are targeting paying a consistent, sustainable dividend of 0.3 per share, replicating what we announced at the half year each year, subject clearly to central bank approval. In terms of the buyback, no update on that from what we previously said.
Then on the legacy exposure, do you want to just frame I'll
Noman Ali
I'll
Stephen Moss
Clearly, I'm I'm the new boy here, I I I've come in and looked at this very in a lot of detail over the last few months. We we absolutely do want to draw a line under it.
The intent of what we laid out today is very much to do that with a clear timeframe. To be fair, I think it echoes what we said in Q3, in Q at the end of at the half year, because clearly, I've read all the transcripts and listened listened to to the call.
What was said was it would probably take an extra year from what had been previously indicated, I think we're being consistent with that. Then just on the one thing to highlight, we have, and I think this is evidenced in the achievements in 2025, we have a very, very good debt workout team, hence the strong recoveries from our remedial unit.
As Noman said, with his accounting conservative hat on, if the if the recoveries from remedial are less than we expected, then obviously, that the the the provisioning number may be net higher. More positively, if we exceed, then it is very much my my intention and and that of and supported by the board clearly, to accelerate provisioning with respect to the legacy book.
Noman, do you want to add?
Noman Ali
Yeah. Rahul, just to reemphasize, right, what we said was for 2026, 2027, as we said before, an elevated gross cost of risk, at a slightly lower level as compared to 2025, and our net cost of risk of between 80 to 100 basis point for 2026 and 2027, which is slightly elevated from our normalized levels.
Then from 2028 onward, we'll see a more normalized net cost of risk of 70 to 90. I think from a journey perspective, we are moving in the right direction.
You can see some of the benefits as the coverage ratio is improving, and you can also see the reduction in the Stage 2 loans as well, there has been reduction in that population as well. I think overall, that is how we are addressing it.
Stephen Moss
Rahul, probably to help a little more, the legacy book is the legacy book. We're not adding new things to it, to be clear.
This isn't sort of a dripping bucket where it leaks and then we have more. It is a ring-fenced portfolio, now called the remedial book.
Happy to go into that further with you offline if that's helpful. I suspect that provisioning may be a major part of this call, I suspect there'll be more questions.
Rahul Bajaj
If I can quickly just clarify a couple of things. Just on the BEPS Pillar 2 tax, Noman, from what I understand, and please correct if my understanding is wrong, whenever this year and this kind of new ruling comes out and you're allowed to go for a lower tax, does this mean that the tax you've paid for or accrued for in 2025 also gets reversed in 2026?
Noman Ali
Yeah. Right now, we are just making an accrual, Rahul, because the first tax which is required to be paid is by 30th June 2027.
We have 18 months to pay the tax. We haven't paid anything, that is why we are just accruing.
The thing is that we are just waiting for the draft executive regulations to be finalized and published. Once that happens, hopefully, we can reverse the whole accrual.
We haven't paid anything so far.
Stephen Moss
We believe, Rahul, we've taken the necessary actions to qualify for what we hope to see and expect to see in the regulations when published. We had to get below certain thresholds and we took lots of actions prior to my arrival, to be fair, to basically get within the various thresholds to qualify for this.
Rahul Bajaj
Do we have any visibility on the timeline? When can we expect clarity on this topic?
Noman Ali
We are hopeful in 2026.
Rahul Bajaj
Right. Okay.
Thank you so much.
Mohamed Farhan
Thank you, Rahul. We have the next question from Varuna Kumaragay.
Varuna, kindly unmute yourself and go ahead. Varuna, are you on the line?
We'll go to the next question from Aybek. Aybek, please unmute yourself and go ahead.
Yes. Thank you very much for the presentation and the strategy update.
Very useful. I would like to ask about, first off, loan quality, right?
Can we be confident that there'll be limited spillover or no spillovers from Stage 2 into Stage 3 from 2026 onwards? That's one.
Secondly, you mentioned about the funding franchise, focusing on the lower-cost deposits. Can you maybe elaborate what are the main steps you see there to improve the quality of funding in a market which is fairly mature and competitive, right?
What should allow you to materially improve your funding cost and materially improve the resilience of the funding franchise? That's my second question.
Thirdly, with regards to growth, I've heard you about the loan growth 3% per annum, focus on affluent SMEs. How do you assess the health of the private sector in Qatar?
Is it sufficient to bring back the loan growth to maybe high single digits, right? Or do you have to really kind of budget in public sector demand in your equation to meet your growth targets, right?
What's the international agenda? Are you planning to grow your international subsidiaries, your loans at the international subsidiaries?
What's the plan here? If I may add one last question is about your subsidiaries in UAE and Oman, any change of views with regards to your commitments to equity associates that you have in these two countries?
Noman Ali
Okay. If we first start with the movement from Stage 2 to Stage 3, so, Aybek, that is in line with our cost of risk strategy, where we are ensuring a faster churn in the NPL portfolio, which will eventually help us reduce the NPL ratio to below 5% going forward.
As we reduce the Stage 2 population and some migration to Stage 3, that is why we said that in 2026 and 2027, we expect a slightly elevated gross cost of risk and then from 2028 onwards, the net cost of risk coming down to 70 to 90 basis points. In relation to funding cost, right, our focus as part of strategy will be that we will be improving the deposit composition in the overall funding pool, and as part of that, we are focusing on increasing our CASA deposits further, which will obviously help reduce the overall cost of deposits.
This will help address some of the margin pressures, and this is linked clearly to the strategy, how we're going to action and address both on the retail and wholesale side.
Stephen Moss
Just let me chip in on that, because clearly with my strategy hat on, this is one of the things I highlighted we needed to focus on in the challenges of the next strategic period, because our funding cost is relatively high. We have one of the highest funding costs in the market, and clearly, we need to address that.
To your question, do we think there's a capacity to do that, Aybek? The answer is yes, and we have actually over the last period or last few years already doubled our CASA deposits, we genuinely think there is more opportunity to penetrate more.
Clearly, it's going to be because everybody is clearly looking at this space, but we have to focus on it, because if you run the slide rule across the market, which I'm sure you've done, our cost of funding is relatively high. That's why we've got to change the mix, and as I say, we believe we can do it.
I can answer the last ones and then you can have a go at loan growth. In terms of Oman and UAE future, we believe there's lots more we can do together.
I believe there's lots more we can do together in terms of strategic outlook, very much continuing to be long-term strategic partners for both Oman and UAE. I think Alternatif Bank as our subsidiary remains core and strategic.
We have, I would say, derisked Alternatif Bank over the last few years, and in terms of the overall percentage of the group's balance sheet, I think sub-5% now. It's not a big part of the group, but it's clearly a market strategically together with, clearly where we're based here in terms of our home market, Qatar.
There's a lot that happens between the two markets, and I think there's more that we can do together. We will also see clearly in 2028, fingers crossed, the end to inflation accounting, we will no longer see the complexities you see flowing through our P&L with inflation accounting if we get to a 3-year cumulative position of less than 100% of inflation at the end of each year.
You add the three numbers up. I think we can be reasonably confident for full-year 2028 we'll no longer be applying inflation accounting with respect to Turkey.
Myself and the team are in Turkey next week very much to focus on what more we can do together, as a 100% shareholder and as a strategic partner. That's the subsidiary and associates.
The private sector?
Noman Ali
Yeah. If I talk about loan growth, overall, if you look at the macro level, Aybek, as you know that the overall GDP is growing in Qatar 6.1% in 2026 and 7.8% in 2027 on an overall basis.
What we see is that the level of activity in the non-hydrocarbon sector is also increasing year on year. Lots of activities and various initiatives being taken which are benefiting.
Where we get involved is that we expect that our loan growth to be around 3%. If I can just deep dive into it, on a wholesale side, our focus will be to grow lending on higher-return customer segments and high-growth sectors, and we will be reshaping the profile of the lending book to diversify across various sectors.
The kind of sectors you're talking about is some of the energy-related downstream services and contractors, some of the logistics and transportation business, and again, infrastructure utilities and the education sector. There are a certain targeted area where we will be focusing on.
In addition to that, on the retail side, we will, as you mentioned, continue to maintain our leadership in the expat segment, but importantly, accelerate the growth in the Qatari customer segment. We would expect that as per our strategy, the retail book will increase by 50% in 2030 from the current levels.
Thank you.
Stephen Moss
It's around that 3% to 4% 3% to 4% over the strategic period loan growth. Being very disciplined around the returns that we get with the deployment of that balance sheet, and being much more disciplined around cross-sell.
We actually have very, very good transaction banking, cash management, trade, etc. We have a good proposition.
We need to sell it more into the customers we're lending to. Cross-sell both on the wholesale side is important and on the retail side clearly.
We have a good position already in terms of cross-sell, but when you look at the customer base even on the retail side, we are underpenetrated even for those we are only selling wealth products to, and we believe there's a there's a there's a nice segment we're not penetrating at all, and hence, the the focus on the Qatari proposition both for the affluent Qataris and the private banking segment onshore. We think there's capacity for to support that loan growth, but to be clear, it's going to be disciplined above hurdle growth to make sure that we improve our ROE.
Yeah. Thank you
Stephen Moss
very much. Thank you, Aybek.
Yeah. Thank you, Stephen.
Thank you.
Mohamed Farhan
We have two questions from Andy on the Q&A box. The first question is, will management take more tax accruals in 2026 until ruling on this, and are these accruals in guidance too?
Noman Ali
The answer is yes, given that the draft executive regulations have not been finalized. From a technical perspective, we would need to accrue tax.
We will expect until they are finalized and published, yes.
Stephen Moss
Is it included in the targets?
Noman Ali
The answer is no, we will have an upside when we have a reversal.
Stephen Moss
No, no, no. The question is, if we have income tax going forward, is it included in here?
Noman Ali
Yes.
Stephen Moss
Yes. Okay.
Yes and yes is the answer.
Mohamed Farhan
The second question from Andy is, what policy rate changes are assumed in NIM guidance, and also can you give us a sense of NFI growth you expect after a big jump in 2025 and the range of plans you highlighted in the presentation?
Noman Ali
Right. From a NIM guidance perspective and the policy rate, as this is a bit of a moving topic.
What we are assuming is two rate cuts of 25 basis points each. That is what we're working towards.
The Fed may have one rate cut of, say, 50 basis points, so that's what we're working towards. On the NFI, there was an increase in NFI during the year.
Some of the fee income actually in the last quarter was some element was one-off fees on some wholesale customers on the settlement on some of the remedial accounts. On the fee income side, we would expect there will be an increase from last year, but not at a 10% increase which we had this year, but we are expecting to have fee increase both from a retail and wholesale perspective, which is in line with our strategy focused on having capital-light and more fee-driven business.
Stephen Moss
Clearly, on what I just spoke to, I should think this probably before the question came in, on both the retail and the wholesale side, the cross-sell will generate clearly NFI.
Mohamed Farhan
Can you actually unmute yourself and ask a question, Yu Peng Chong,
Yu Peng Chong
thank you. Yew Kiang here from Lion Global Investors.
Actually I'd like to focus more on maybe on international business, because you has previously talked about sort of improving your capital efficiency by deploying into higher-return business. Far, your Turkey business hasn't been the best return over the past few years, but you just talked about you owning 100% of it and thinking about what you can do more together.
I was just wondering whether the management will be committed to invest more capital into this international business in Turkey, or what are your thoughts around it?
Stephen Moss
From an equity perspective, we don't actually see during the plan period a need to invest further equity, certainly not in the certainly not in the capital plan. We we we think we can leverage the portfolio as is and the capital base as is to generate the upside that we have baked into the plan.
As I said, there's going to be quite a an a nice uptick in 2028 when hopefully we don't have to apply inflation accounting anymore, because the returns from the underlying business, and this isn't just as it's cross-sector for those who for those who own international financial organizations that own banks in Turkey, but clearly when you consolidate, the returns aren't great always because of inflation accounting. The underlying business is nicely profitable and and achieving an ROE well above the cost of equity.
Noman Ali
Yeah.
Stephen Moss
That that 2028 event will actually help a lot. I would say that that the the there is a lot more that honestly can be done between us strategically.
I think, but as I say, it doesn't require additional equity in my in my look in. That as that is the that is the in essence what we plan during the period.
Clearly, we've done a lot of good things in Qatar on the retail side. It's applying the the learnings that we have here to our retail business, which is relatively nascent in Turkey, to sort of share the lessons learned and how we manage the business here.
Just simple things like that, I think, will unlock some nice value.
Yu Peng Chong
Understood. Just a second follow-up question on the asset
Stephen Moss
quality.
Yu Peng Chong
Yeah. Sorry.
The second question maybe more on the asset quality. I think that the long-term target of 5% below 5% in NPL and then there's above 70% in coverage, that is still slightly worse than, industry average.
I was just wondering if that's the threshold that the bank will maintain in the long run or is there some some targets in mind in, a more sustainable long-run situation?
Stephen Moss
2030 feels a long way out from where I'm sitting today, I'd love it to be a lot lower than 5 and a lot higher than 70, but given we're talking 2030, I think to be honest, let's face it, people look at 2 years out from an inflation interest rate risk forecasting perspective and currency risk, I don't think we should be going beyond 2030, honestly. Aspirationally, clearly, I'd like the 70s to be higher and the NPLs to be lower.
Noman Ali
Just to add, I guess, sometimes they have a technical point there that in Qatar, sometimes any write-offs which happen need central bank approval, which happens once a year annually. Sometimes, we'll have loans which are 100% provided, but we are not able to write them off, and hence, that also slightly inflates the NPL ratio percentages.
Stephen Moss
Thank you, Yew Kiang. Happy to speak with offline
Yu Peng Chong
as well
Stephen Moss
if you wish. Thank you.
Mohamed Farhan
Thank you. Chong you, Tom.
We have our next question in the Q&A box. It's from Shrikant.
Can you please comment on how you see NII and NIM trajectory in 2026, including Fed rate expectations and the Central Bank of Qatar rate expectation baked into your forecast?
Noman Ali
As I mentioned, that from a forecast in 2026 perspective, we are currently budgeting two rate cuts, 25 basis points each. How it will translate into NII, we're still expecting NII to grow by 3% in 2026.
Again, that will be driven by focusing on high-return segments on the lending side and then reducing our cost of funding. On the NIM, as we mentioned, that for 2026, we'll work towards maintaining our NIMs around 2.2%, similar to the current level and from third quarter, with a downward pressure of 10 basis points.
We will aim to optimize the funding mix by increasing CASA deposits and also improve the deposit composition in the overall funding book. Hope that answers your question.
Mohamed Farhan
Right. Okay.
Thank you, Shrikant. We have a question, Varuna, if you are still on the call, can you unmute yourself and ask the question, please?
Hello. Yeah.
Am I audible now?
Stephen Moss
We can hear you. Thank you.
Varuna. Yeah.
Thank you very much. Sorry for the early mishap.
I have two, three questions. The first one is on the NIMs.
You gave the guidance on NIMs, but I just want to clarify when I work out the NIMs for the fourth quarter specifically, there was a slight improvement. I was wondering what was behind that, and is it a temporary blip?
That was my first question, although it was a slight improvement. Secondly, there were these acceptances which drove loan growth earlier in the year.
I wanted to understand what is the nature of these acceptances and how long do you think these acceptances will be in the balance sheet, and which sectors are these related to? Which sector breakdown can I find this?
Then the last one is I think just to clarify your answer to earlier question on the legacy portfolio. These legacy assets, are these in real estate segment or any other segment?
Just want to clarify that. Thank you.
Noman Ali
Yeah. Firstly, on the NIM, I think you're looking at quarter-on-quarter.
I think that the NIM was impacted by obviously some of the rates, as well as there was an interest in suspense, a small amount on one-off customers, which impacted the NIM there, quarter-on-quarter movements. On acceptances, basically, as you can see that from the third quarter, it has come down by 800 million.
We would expect that these are trade-related items. It can go from 3 months to 12 months.
Then, we would expect a gradual decrease during the year on acceptances. That is why we are transparent when we communicate that whatever our loan growth excluding acceptances, we kind of focus on that.
From a sector perspective, they are related to trade-related in various segments, it will be in various kind of consumer services, various sectors involved in that. On the legacy assets, I think, yeah, it is directly related to real estate sectors.
That brought in out, it will include hospitality, residential, and commercial real estate. That's the kind of the whole legacy book primarily real estate-related.
Okay. That's clear.
Just regarding the acceptances, now the margins on the acceptances are negligible, right? Am I right?
Noman Ali
No, the acceptances are basically fee-earning, so that is why when we do the NIM calculation, they're not an interest-earning asset, we do the calculation excluding that.
All right.
Noman Ali
They're instruments for up to 1 year, yeah. Yeah.
Varuna,
Mohamed Farhan
just to highlight to you, these acceptances are backed by deposits as well. Structured deposits.
Oh,
okay. All right.
Clear. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Mohamed Farhan
We have a few questions from Bernice on the Q&A box. The first question is, what are the factors that caused CBQ to increase net provisions to a very high level as compared to the previous years?
Noman Ali
I think thanks for the question, first of all. I think if you look at our gross provisioning for the last few years, it has been over 100 to 110, 20 basis points.
We have been consistently higher. I think in 2024, it was at around slightly lower, but overall, if you look at the longer picture, we have been reviewing our portfolio, and as we go along as we mentioned at the third quarter, that as part of the reassessment and reviewing of the portfolio, we will continue with our journey, which will mean that for 20 2026 and 2027, we will have an elevated gross cost of risk and then a net cost of risk between 100 80 to 100 basis points, and then normalized level from 2028 onwards.
The key point there is that whenever we have significantly increased our recoveries as well. The net cost of risk this year was 75 as we benefited from our recoveries.
As we go along on our journey for another 2 years on an elevated level, our recoveries will also benefit us to reduce the net cost of risk.
Mohamed Farhan
The second question from Bernice is
Stephen Moss
Bernice, I was just going to say, if the underpin to that question is, did anything in particular happen that led you to take a higher provision, the answer is no. It's in the spirit of drawing a line under the legacy book and taking advantage of higher recoveries to do that.
As I say, we remain very, very focused on recoveries, hopefully, ideally, if there's a higher recovery, we'll make a higher provision. It's really the net that we're looking at, hence the guidance 80 to 100 for the next 2 years, and then 70 to 70 to 90 thereafter.
Sorry, second Bernice's question?
Mohamed Farhan
Second question is, why is that CBQ increased the net provisions even when it could pull the profit down drastically?
Noman Ali
I think, yeah, as we mentioned that we are consistent with previous year. We are on a journey and recording provision from an accounting perspective when required.
What we feel is that as we continue with our journey, we will absorb the provisions as we go along, and that is why there's no drastic impact on our net profit because of that. It's part of the business-as-usual provisioning.
Stephen Moss
The underpin of that question is why didn't you have a higher P&L by having a lower provision? That's certainly not something I would support.
We want to get our arms around the legacy book and draw a line under it, and I think if we were to do that, we wouldn't be doing so. I don't think that's just good, appropriate management.
That's not me, I'm afraid.
Mohamed Farhan
Okay. The third question is, please provide specifics of legacy loan book as to total amount outstanding as at end of 2024 versus end of 2025, and percentage of recoveries made.
Stephen Moss
It's the same question Rahul asked at the beginning of the call. Are we able to give absolute numbers?
I don't think we've done so before, have we?
Noman Ali
We haven't given before, but as we can say, if you look at some of our Stage 3 and Stage 2, it's primarily real estate-driven.
Stephen Moss
Listen, leave that with us, because Rahul asked it as well. We'll have a think about how we can be more helpful if and how we can be more helpful in that regard.
I get the question. I know where you're coming from.
Thank you.
Mohamed Farhan
We have two more questions from Dharani on the Q&A box. When will the LTIS expire, and what would be the capital impact, as remember, you were expecting some capital enhancement from that?
Noman Ali
Just on the capital bit? Just on the second part of the question, they are already capital-deducted, we don't see any capital impact as from regulatory capital, those long-term incentive shares which you can see on our balance sheet are already capital-deducted, there's no impact there.
Mohamed Farhan
The second question is, do you expect legacy book to be fully out of equation by 2027? Where do you see Stage 2 share by then?
Noman Ali
I think from a provisioning perspective, as we mentioned, 2 years of highly elevated gross cost of risk. I think what we will expect is that the NPLs will reduce from 2028.
Then, as you can see from a Stage 2 perspective, there is a reduction at the year-end. However, by 2030, we are aiming to keep the Stage 2 percentage around 15%, so that's what we're working towards.
Mohamed Farhan
Okay. We don't see any more questions.
Oh, there's one more from Aybek on the Q&A box. Other provisions, Qatari riyal 258 million in full-year 2025.
What drove a big increase in Q4 versus 2024 Q4?
Noman Ali
Yeah. Aybek, there were a couple of elements in there.
One was we took some impairment provisions on some of our repossessed property revaluations, and secondly, there was a modification loss on the restructuring of a loan. This is disclosed in our financials as well, you can see that in our disclosures.
Those are the kind of two main elements of that.
Mohamed Farhan
In the sight of the Q&A, we have performed the audience. That's the end of our full-year results and the strategy update.
We thank you, everyone, for joining this call and have a good day.
Stephen Moss
Thank you very much. Listen, if you've got follow-on questions, Farhan and Noman are here and myself as necessary, and I look forward to engaging with you over the next few months as you wish.
Thank you very much for your attention and for attending the call. Thank you.
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