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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptAugust 13, 2026

Operator

Welcome to Vital Infrastructure Property Trust Second Quarter 26 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all lines have been placed on mute.

You are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session.

This call is being recorded today. 05/13/2026.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Alyssa Barry, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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I would now like to turn the conference over to Alyssa Barry, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Alyssa Barry

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for participating in our second quarter results conference call.

This is Alyssa Barry speaking. Joining me are Zachary Brian Vaughan, CEO; Stephanie Karamarkovic, CFO; Michael Brady, President and Tracey Whittall, COO; and Dave Casimiro, EVP.

Earnings announcement was released yesterday evening. We posted an updated Investor Relations presentation on our website.

Listeners can refer to during the call. Following comments, we will be glad to ask and take questions from analysts.

Today's discussion includes forward looking statements. As always, I want to caution you that such statements are based on measurements, assumptions and beliefs.

These forward looking statements are subject to uncertainties and other factors, that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements. Please see our public filings on SEDAR plus including our MD and A, and annual information form for a discussion of these risks.

Factors. During this call, we will also reference certain non GAAP financial measures.

A reconciliation to the most directly comparable IFRS measure is provided in our MD&A and earnings release. Unless otherwise noted, all amounts discussed today are in Canadian dollars.

With that, I will now hand it over to our CEO, Zachary Brian Vaughan.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Thanks, Stephanie, and thank you everyone for joining us. Today on the call.

This is my fourth earnings call as CEO of Vital. Having joined a little over a year ago.

Since joining, the senior management team and I, with the support of our board, have been executing on a strategic plan to transform our business, centered on 4 key priorities. 1, simplifying our footprint 2, strengthening our balance sheet 3, reducing our cost structure and 4, disciplined capital allocation.

We are still in the early stages of this transformation, but we are making strong progress across each of these priorities as demonstrated by our results this quarter, and our recent activities. Starting with the simplification of our footprint.

During the quarter, we closed on the remainder of the properties in Europe that were part of our larger transaction with TPG Real Estate. This transaction represented the majority of our invested equity in Europe generating $145 million of net proceeds.

As of June 30, our European property operating business and employees, have also been transferred to TPG. In Europe, we are left with just 2 remaining investments both of which are efficient to oversee and which we intend to exit in due course.

Our substantial exit from Europe along with the internalization of vital Trust in New Zealand clearly demonstrates our commitment to simplifying our business and creating a more focused operating platform. Moving to our balance sheet.

At the end of Q2, our LTV on a proportionate basis stands at 47%. Down about 900 basis points from a year ago.

Importantly, our debt to EBITDA ratio improved meaningfully to 7.7x on a comparable basis, down from 9.4x a year ago close to a 2 turn reduction. In addition, we ended Q2 with liquidity of $443 million giving us significant flexibility to pursue accretive growth.

Switching to our cost structure, During the second quarter, G&A fell by $2.2 million year over year. With further reductions expected next quarter as the impact of our European sales flows through.

As a result of these and other efforts undertaken by the team to streamline operations, we are on track to reduce our G&A to reduce our G&A by over 30% by year end. Importantly, with our simplified footprint, we can recycle capital with little to no incremental overhead, increasing our platform operating leverage, and allowing a greater proportion of property earnings to flow through to unitholders.

Lastly, turning to capital allocation. I committed on my first earnings call that we would be laser focused on disciplined capital allocation.

In the past 12 months, have realized approximately $300 million of net proceeds that have been recycled back to North America through a combination of debt reduction, and accretive investments. Importantly, during the last several quarters, we have demonstrated that we are able to reinvest that cash capital into opportunities that are accretive for our unitholders.

Having completed and committed to the following transactions. At the start of the year, we entered into a commitment to build a new ambulatory facility for RVH in Barrie, which when completed in 2029, will add additional NOI of $9 million or $0.04 a unit.

In March, acquired a transitional bed facility in Ottawa, on a long term lease to the Ottawa Hospital. This was our first new acquisition in Canada in almost a decade.

And after quarter end, we completed or committed to approximately $103 million of additional acquisitions. July, we acquired 142 thousand-square-foot integrated community health center in Brooklyn, New York, marking an important step in reestablishing our presence in the U.S.

market. This property is a modern purpose built transit connected outpatient community health hub located in 1 of the largest and most dynamic cities in North America.

New York City has a very limited supply of dedicated healthcare space and very high barriers to entry. The property brings together a broad range of health care services, including primary care, specialty care, imaging, and diagnostics.

Facility is 100% leased to advantaged care physicians, 1 of New York's largest multi-specialty physician organizations. The lease has approximately 11 years remaining and includes contractual annual rent escalations, providing durable, predictable and growing cash flows for Vital.

We also announced as part of our quarterly results we signed a definitive agreement to acquire a Canadian outpatient property in Burlington, Ontario. The property is 99% leased, to a diverse mix of healthcare providers with long term operational and dense densification upside of the property.

Together, these acquisitions totaling approximately $153 million are being acquired at a going in cap rate of over 7% and are expected to be immediately accretive to earnings. These transactions demonstrate our ability to identify accretive high quality health care real estate investments across North America.

Our pipeline continues to grow in both Canada and The United States, giving us confidence that our strategy to refocus and grow the portfolio in North America is highly executable. So we are making tangible progress across all 4 of our strategic priorities.

And we are confident that momentum will continue over the coming quarters. Turning now to the underlying performance of our real estate portfolio.

Which remained strong during the quarter. Excluding a 1-time step up in expenses related to outsourcing facilities management in Canada, NOI across our portfolio, on a same property basis grew by 3.2% We ended the quarter with occupancy of 96.1% and a whale of over 13 years.

1 of the longest of the Canadian REITs. These metrics continue to reflect the defensive nature quality and long duration income within our portfolio.

In addition to supporting the delivery of critical healthcare services, many of our assets are located in dense urban markets. Where there is meaningful long term embedded value.

As a demonstration of this, in July, we received City of Toronto approval for our rezoning application of Fairview Health Centre. This approval allows us to develop 980 thousand square feet of buildable area led by a 100 thousand square feet of medical space.

The balance of the project can be market rate residential without the need for any affordable housing component. We are very pleased that our team was able to achieve this result It provides us with significant optionality and, over time, the potential to create meaningful incremental value for unitholders.

Before I wrap up, a quick comment on Healthscope. As has been publicly reported, a consortium comprising 4 operators is in active diligence with the receiver to acquire all of Healthscope's remaining assets and operating business.

This consortium has both our support and that of the other major landlord. As we have previously indicated, we have a committed transaction in place with Calvary.

A large high quality not for profit Australian hospital and senior housing operator to step into a new lease on all 12 of our properties subject to lender and receiver approval. We anticipate further information before our Q3 earnings release we will keep everyone informed as the process continues.

Encouragingly, performance in our Australian hospitals keeps improving and from a liquidity standpoint, we continue to see institutional capital return to the market. Last week, an institutional investor agreed to acquire a hospital in Suburban Melbourne.

The property was acquired for $291 million equating Australian dollars. Equating to a low-5% cap rate.

We view this as an encouraging data point for asset values and market liquidity, and we anticipate further transaction activity as hospital operating performance keeps getting better and the Healthscope situation moves towards resolution. In addition, Stephanie will highlight, after quarter end, we successfully refinanced all the debt secured by our Healthscope assets on attractive terms.

Demonstrating the availability of--the availability of funding for high quality Australian healthcare infrastructure. So to summarize, here are a few takeaways.

First, we are making real progress across each of our strategic priorities. And the improvement in our reported metrics this quarter demonstrates that.

Second, our portfolio continues to perform as it should. Generating stable and growing cash flows underpinned by critical healthcare assets with significant long term upside.

And third, we remained disciplined in our approach capital allocation. And are demonstrating our ability to identify accretive opportunities to recycle capital and grow the business.

We are pleased with both the strategic progress we are making and the underlying performance of the business during this quarter. Vital is becoming a simpler, a stronger and a more focused company.

With an improved balance sheet, a more efficient cost structure and a growing pipeline of attractive investment opportunities. And with that, I will hand it over to Stephanie to talk about our financial results.

Stephanie Karamarkovic

Thanks, Zachary, and good morning, everyone. Today's call, I will first walk through Vital Infrastructure's second quarter financial and operating results, and then cover our balance sheet, including debt maturities, liquidity, before we move into Q&A.

Before I begin, just a quick reminder on our operating baseline reporting baseline for 2026. Following the internalization of Vital Trust management structure at the end of 25, Vital Trust is no longer consolidated within the REIT's results and is now accounted for as an equity accounted investment.

As a result, certain year over year comparisons particularly NOI, FFO, AFFO, and other proportionate measures are affected. Beginning in 2026, Vital Trust no longer contributes to proportionate NOI, while FFO and AFFO now reflect cash distributions received rather than a proportionate share of its underlying operating results.

Although this affects comparability with prior periods, it aligns with our reporting with the cash flows we receive from our investment and provides a simpler, more transparent presentation. Turning to our second quarter results.

We delivered another quarter of steady operating performance consistent with our long term strategy. Same property NOI on a proportionate group basis grew by 2.3% year over year to $51 million for the quarter, driven by contractual rent escalations rentalized capital expenditures, higher parking income and improved cost recoveries.

In North America specifically, same property NOI increased by 1% for the quarter as contractual rent escalations and higher parking income was largely offset by a higher property's operating costs. Associated with our transition to outsourced facilities operations effective in November of last year.

Excluding the impact of that transit North American same property net operating income increased by 3.3% and our overall same property net operating income would have increased by 3.2% year over year. FFO per unit excluding accelerated amortization of financing costs, was 11 cents for the quarter.

In line with the first quarter of this year. While AFFO per unit increased to $0.11 from 10 cents in the first quarter, it is worth noting that both FFO and AFFO exclude approximately $500 thousand of accelerated amortization of financing costs related to the early repayment of certain European mortgages using proceeds from the European portfolio sale.

On a proportionate basis, management fee income declined by approximately 3.6 million primarily reflecting the deconsolidation of Vital Trust and lower fees from the European joint venture following the portfolio sale. This was more than offset by an approximately $5 million reduction in finance costs compared with the second quarter of last year, reflecting again the deconsolidation of Vital and lower borrowing costs following our refinancing activity and lower amortization of deferred financing fees.

Overall, these items had a modest favorable impact on FFO and AFFO for the quarter. Importantly, our AFFO payout ratio remains within our targeted range at 85% this quarter, an improvement from 88% in the same period last year.

Turning to G&A. Our continued focus on operational excellence and business simplification is translating into a structurally lower cost base.

G&A attributable to AFFO, which excludes unit based compensation and employee termination benefits, declined to $10 million for the quarter from $12.2 million in the second quarter of last year. These savings reflect the execution of several strategic initiatives over the past 18 months.

Including the internalization of Vital Trust, the European portfolio sale, the resulting closure of 4 regional offices, the outsourcing of our Canadian facilities management platform, and overall corporate cost optimization. As a result, our global headcount has declined by approximately 40% year over year while preserving the capabilities needed to support our North American growth strategy.

With the majority of our European platform now transitioned to TPG and additional simplification initiatives underway, we expect to capture further efficiencies over the balance of the year. And as a result, we remain on track to achieve a run rate annual G&A excluding unit based compensation and severance, approximately $35 million by the end of 26.

These actions are expected to enhance operating leverage strengthen earnings quality and improve the long term unitholder value. NAV per unit was $7.66 as at June 30.

2026, up from $7.55 at March 31. The increase was driven primarily by favorable foreign exchange movements and mark to market gains on our Vital Trust units.

Partially offset by transaction costs associated with the European portfolio sale. Turning to the balance sheet.

Our proportionate leverage improved materially to 46.8% down from 52.7% at the end of the first quarter. And 56% this time last year.

The decrease from the prior quarter primarily reflects the timing of the European portfolio sale. With the net proceeds not yet deployed by quarter end.

As we redeploy these proceeds into our North American acquisition pipeline, pipeline, including the Brooklyn acquisition completed subsequent to the quarter end and our Canadian committed acquisition, we expect leverage to increase modestly from June 30 levels. On a pro forma basis, reflecting these subsequent acquisitions, proportionate leverage would have been approximately 48.8%.

Our debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was 7.1x at quarter end, or approximately 7.7x on a comparable basis excluding the EBITDA contribution from the disposed European properties. On a pro form a basis, reflecting the impact of our subsequent acquisitions and repayment, our ratio would have been approximately 8x which we believe better reflects our ongoing operating profile.

On near term debt maturities, we had approximately $230 million of remaining 26 maturities at the end of the quarter. In Canada, $18.8 million of mortgage maturities are expected to be repaid or transitioned to our revolving credit facility.

Of which about $7 million has already been repaid subsequent to quarter end. On the Australian side, I am pleased to report that our joint venture successfully refinanced AUD $715 million or CAD $210 million at our share, term debt subsequent to quarter end.

Extending the maturity from December 2026 to December 2028. And resolving what was our single largest 2026 maturity.

As of today, total available liquidity is over $250 million including the subsequently disclosed Q2 activities, providing significant flexibility to execute on our priorities. Our weighted average interest rate was 5.25% compared with 4.76% a year ago, reflecting a change in our debt mix following the repayment of lower cost European mortgages.

And the use of our revolving credit facility to fund acquisitions. Our weighted average term to maturity was 2.2 years, which has since improved following the successful refinancing of our Australian joint venture, a--subsequent to quarter end.

Turning to capital recycling, as Zachary mentioned, we successfully completed the sale of our European portfolio in the quarter. This transaction generated approximately $145 million of net proceeds attributable to the REIT after transaction costs and taxes.

We have already redeployed a significant portion of those proceeds into the acquisition of the East New York Health Hub in Brooklyn. With the remaining proceeds committed to our Canadian acquisition pipeline.

As we have previously communicated, our expectation was to use proceeds from the European portfolio sale to repay our 6.25% Series H convertible debentures. Given the attractive acquisition opportunities available in recent months, we instead prioritized redeploying that capital into accretive North American investments that we believe will generate greater long term value for unitholders.

With the Series H debentures becoming callable without penalty on September 1, subject to the required 30 day notice, we intend to revisit this in the near term and evaluate the most efficient approach to addressing the maturity. Whether through additional asset recycling, refinancing at more favorable market rates, or a combination of both.

Importantly, our growing pool of unencumbered assets continues to enhance our financial flexibility. Positioning us to access a broader range of financing alternatives over time while further diversifying our sources of capital.

In the meantime, we will continue to be opportunistically repurchasing our convertible debentures under our normal course issuer bid, where we believe doing so represents an attractive use of capital. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately $1.5 million of convertible debentures bringing the year to date repurchases to 2.9 million while maintaining the flexibility to prioritize capital deployment into accretive investment opportunities.

Taken together, these initiatives have simplified the business strengthened the balance sheet, and meaningfully repositioned our capital towards North America, while preserving the stable cash flow characteristics of our portfolio. In closing, our second quarter results demonstrate the durability of our portfolio and our disciplined approach to capital allocation.

With resilient healthcare infrastructure demand supporting our assets, and a proactive approach to capital management, Vital Infrastructure is well positioned to pursue opportunities and deliver sustained results in the quarters ahead. And with that, I will turn it back to the operator to open up the line for Q&A.

Operator

We are now opening the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, Thank you.

Your first question comes from the line of Jonathan Kelcher from TD Cowen. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Jonathan Kelcher

Thanks. Good morning.

First question, on the on your pipeline, the acquisition pipeline, Zachary, you talked about it being pretty active. How does that stack up US versus Canada?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

At the moment, it is probably--I would--I mean, again, it fluctuates, you know, day to day. I would say it is probably skewed about 2-thirds to The US.

At the moment in terms of acquisitions. it is really a reflection of I mean, look, if we could do everything in Canada, we may well do that.

I think the challenge is, obviously, know, lot of the health care assets and infrastructure is sort of single payer owned. So The US tends to be where we find more acquisition opportunities.

Our development opportunities in terms of where we would do strategic transactions like we did with RVH, those are all here.

Jonathan Kelcher

In Canada. Okay.

So no U.S. development.

Are there any states that you would that you are maybe looking to add to or conversely states away from?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. it is--you know, it is interesting, Jonathan, like, coming from a background of starting my career in office, moving to apartments and hospitality, you tend to focus on certain kind of key markets.

I think in this case, we are probably biased towards the East Coast down to the Southeast. In terms of market, but it is not a specific state by state strategy.

it is more asset and area specific and what the underlying users is doing in the building, really. But I would also note it is all skewed.

Everything we are pursuing right now is really skewed towards outpatient versus inpatient. Okay.

Jonathan Kelcher

And then lastly for me, just on dispositions, how should we think about that for the balance of the year? In terms of properties or Well, both.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

I guess properties and the Vital New Zealand-- yeah. I mean, Mike, I can Mike's here, so he can give you the kind of update on timing.

Michael Brady

Yeah. Hi, Jonathan.

We are no longer subject to any restrictions with respect to our holdings in the New Zealand entity. Having said that, we do not have anything to announce today.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I think we will be opportunistic about it, but certainly now being of having that available as a source of liquidity, obviously, is something we will we will explore.

Jonathan Kelcher

Okay. And on the property side?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

On the property side, I think probably, dispositions that are that are kind of actively under evaluation would be the balance of our Gerson clinics. Potentially.

And, you know, timing, that would probably be a--to the extent that happened, I think it would likely be a Q4 event. Okay.

If just sort of put everything together. If I were to think about it, if you have kind of used all the cash that you have got back from the European sales to your announced acquisition.

And if you were to announce more, we should probably think about the New Zealand shares as a funding source? Yeah.

I think New Zealand, and Europe are certainly a source of funding for us.

Jonathan Kelcher

Okay. Thanks.

I will turn it back.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sairam Srinivas From Cormark Securities. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Sairam Srinivas

Thank you, operator. Zachary, Stephanie, congratulations on the quarter.

Thank you.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Just thinking about dry powder looking ahead, know you mentioned all the cash in the European acquisition is probably deployed, but would you think about leverage looking forward?

Sairam Srinivas

And then should we think about leverage in the next 12 months?

Stephanie Karamarkovic

Hi, Sairam. I can take that 1.

Yeah, so I think, you know, our mid to long term target of leverage is around that 50% or 8x debt to EBITDA. That will kind of vary up and down as we recycle capital and then redeploy, but we are really targeting that 50%, which is what we feel comfortable on a long term basis given the underlying credit and quality of our portfolio.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I think that would be what I would target.

Sairam Srinivas

And maybe just looking at quantum of acquisitions ahead, at this point, can you comment on what that number would look like? Would it be the 100 million acquisitions to come?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I think we you know, sort of gave, I think, soft guidance to, we think, sort of 250 million for the year was kind of a target.

So I think that is probably a pretty good a good range to be in. So certainly another $50 million of acquisitions before the end of the year is a safe assumption.

Perfect. And Zach, what is your view on Fairview Health Centre, and what is the long term, plan here for that development?

Sairam Srinivas

Oh, Fairview.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

So, you know, look, Fairview is 1 of our better performing assets. It is kind of a critical health hub.

I think longer term, we are--there is a need for larger community health operators in that general area. And so we are talking to some of them.

So I think, once we sort of resolve what we are doing on the health side, we will figure out how to plan for the rest of it, which is likely to be residential. So either we would sell the excess land net of the medical or possibly partner with someone to, who would sort of take charge of the residential.

But it is still it is still early days.

Sairam Srinivas

Yep. Makes sense.

Totally. Thanks, and thanks for taking the time back.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Himanshu Gupta from Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Himanshu Gupta

Zachary, in your prepared remarks, I think you pointed to a transaction activity, Melbourne Hospital at low-5% cap rates, if I heard it right. How does that compare to how does your cap rate or pricing compare to transactions you have seen in the last 1 year, the last 2 years?

Just trying to get a sense of how competitive or desirable the market is.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. it is this is in Australia.

We look. We continue to see assets trade.

I mean, out of Vital Trust, they have been trading assets. Again, it is very asset specific depending on the operator and the profitability of the asset.

But I would say you know, seeing that kind of pricing on a large asset is with term is very encouraging. there is some element of some potential redevelopment there, but not enough to really you know, make that pricing materially different.

So, look, I think what we are seeing is capital starting to come back in bigger ways and in bigger deals to Australian health care. In other words, if you talk to people down there, they are the idea of Healthscope, which 12-18 months ago was on everyone's mind in a big discussion, people are looking through it.

Got it.

Himanshu Gupta

And then on the subject of Healthscope, I mean, once that situation is sorted out, I mean, will that be a source of disposition as well? I know you outlined you know, the vital units and remaining Europe assets.

But would this 12-asset Healthscope would also be a disposition candidate?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Look. So I think once this is resolved, certainly, the liquidity of all those assets changes dramatically.

And part of our strategy with that partnership was to continue to recycle capital. And so we will be actively re reengaging as that.

So, yes, you could look at it as a source of liquidity, but I think until we are through Healthscope, it is too early to give real guidance on specific assets.

Himanshu Gupta

Okay, fair enough. And then, sorry, 1 more follow-up on Healthscope.

I think you mentioned that you support the, I mean, the proposal or agreement so far with the operators. Based on if this agreement goes through, do we know, like, will there be a rent concessions being given or any rent reduction, NOI reduction we should expect?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

If this gets done with Calvary? Yeah.

Stephanie Karamarkovic

Hi, Himanshu. So at this time, we are not able to comment again given the terms of the transaction and the offer are still subject to approval, we are not able to provide any further details.

But as soon as we are, we will be able provide some update on what our lease terms with Calvary look like.

Himanshu Gupta

Fair enough. Fair enough.

Maybe the last question is on the G&A. And obviously, a big part of your focus and making a lot of progress there as well.

So should we see like a step down in Q3 G and A, from Q2 now that, you know, Europe is folded and yeah. That gets you to a realization by 35 million annualized savings.

Stephanie Karamarkovic

Yeah. In Q3, now that all of the, you know, employees in Europe have transitioned, that is a June 30, we will see a pretty meaningful impact in Q3 and then continuing into Q4 as some of those costs unwind related to legacy things there.

So largely speaking, we will be by the end of 26 at that 35 million run rate that we have guided to. Okay.

So 2027 will definitely be the new G&A. And what is that range going to be?

Sorry. Range of what?

On G&A. I know you are quoting this 35 million annualized number.

it is it is a very big reduction from what you have in 2026. So I just wanna make sure I got this right.

Keep in mind the $35 million excludes unit based comp and any employee termination benefits. But, yeah, that is $35 million is kind of the safe assumption By the end of Q.

By the end of Q4.

Himanshu Gupta

Okay. Okay.

No. Thank you so much, and I will turn it back.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Giuliano Thornhill from National Bank Financial.

Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Giuliano Thornhill

Hey, guys. Good morning, everyone.

Good morning. I just want to start with Australia.

Dave, have there been any kind of regulatory developments either in the budget or in the insurance maybe outlook that have impacted your business or the operators there?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Nothing from a regulatory point of view that I can think of or legal. I think, in fact, I would not say it is regulatory, but what we are seeing is the kind of reimbursement rates continue to trend in a positive direction, which is just month by month just improving the profitability that we are seeing, not only with Healthscope, but really across the assets that we have visibility into.

And then for that recent transaction, are you--do you--do you figure that buyers are just assuming a more normalized environment for the operators?

Giuliano Thornhill

Or are they just they sticking to the best ones? And just as a last question related to that, what do you expect permanent financing there would be like?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I can I can sort of talk about that transaction?

I mean, that is you know, it is that property in Melbourne is a strong operator. They are a well known operator.

It is a good, solid performing hospital. And, look, I think the capital behind it is likely long term sort of income oriented capital.

Maybe, Stephanie, you can comment on financing. Yeah.

Stephanie Karamarkovic

I mean, yeah, to our recent experience of refinancing the Australian JV, would say that there is a larger appetite to lend against these assets than there has been in the recent history. I mean, we had a 1 bank syndicate originally, and now it was expanded to I think it is 4 banks.

So there was definite appetite from others to come in and lend against this portfolio. And on actually even slightly better terms than was previously.

So, I definitely think there is bigger appetite to lend and availability of financing. for these assets.

Giuliano Thornhill

Okay. And just turning to, I guess, Canada.

The Ontario kind of I guess, firstly, in the recent Ontario budget, have you noticed any, like, demand drivers that are impacting your ability to do some of these larger developments? And then secondly, is the primary care push starting to positively impact maybe occupancy or anything related to your business?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Maybe I will let Dave is here. Maybe, Dave, you can give some thoughts on sort of where things are headed in terms of regulatory and primary care and uncertainty.

Dave Casimiro

Certainly. Good morning.

Obviously, we are keeping close track of a number of the government funding initiatives around supporting primary care as well as supporting of various schools of medicine. And so we are seeing that happening, and from an announcement perspective, and starting to see some of the flow through in that funding, wherein we are working with some of our family health teams and primary care tenants on you know, space allocation and looking at ways on how they can grow.

Giuliano Thornhill

Okay. Thanks.

And 1 last 1 on the regulatory front. I am just wondering if you have seen do you have any thoughts on the proposed site neutrality policy in The US?

And, like, does that does that affect your any of your current kinda portfolio or change the acquisition strategy at all?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

No. No.

I mean, I do not think so. I mean, our I am not I do not think there is any impact on our current portfolio today.

So that was I do not think it impacts that or our strategy. I mean, our strategy is really you know, high quality outpatient limited inpatient, and minimize exposure to areas and things that could be impacted from a funding point of view, negatively.

As some of these regulatory changes come through.

Giuliano Thornhill

Okay. that is all for me.

Thanks, guys.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Pammi Bir from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Pammi Bir

Just wanted to come back to Healthscope for a second. And I think Zachary, you mentioned that you expect an update before, I guess, you report Q3.

Is that just based on the time line that the receiver has provided? Or is it is the whole process just kind of approaching the final strokes at this point?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

I mean, look, we cannot comment on specific dates and times, but it does feel like we are, you know, in this process, as I thought, was longer and more complicated, but it certainly feels like they are headed towards some conclusion. That you now have this consortium of 4 people.

it is a holistic solution for all the assets and the business. So I think you are sort of in that path where there is no more it is not as if it is an option where you are now gonna go out and look for more interest.

So I we do feel like we are headed towards some kind of resolution there. And look, for us, we have our transaction in place that is ready to go as long as this all gets approved.

Got it.

Pammi Bir

Okay. that is that is helpful.

And then just to clarify, if you if this is resolved and you were to sell at some point, some of these Healthscope assets, would that capital be redeployed in Australia? Or like alongside your partner?

Or would you repatriate that back to North America?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah, look, I think our goal is to repatriate our capital back here to reinvest in North America, as we have stated. So again, could there be something extraordinarily attractive?

We could look at it. But the truth is our strategic goal will not really change.

I mean, we exit an asset likely that or multiple assets that the proceeds are going to get redeployed here.

Pammi Bir

Okay. And then just coming back to the acquisition commentary, I guess, in The U.

S, how are you thinking about just continuing to acquire assets sort of on your own? Or are there opportunities that you are seeing with potentially partnering with some of the local entities?

Yes.

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I think it is a good question, Pammi.

I think it is a mix. And it probably depends a bit on the asset.

So for example, something like East New York Health Hub, you know, this is a single tenant long dated, triple net lease. that is something that we can certainly do.

We can own the transaction from here. We are looking at transactions, as I sort of mentioned, with groups where we would essentially acquire the asset and bring them in as partners specifically to help us with certain value enhancement, initiatives.

And those relationships could grow over time and become more strategic. So I think it does depend on the strategy, and we are looking at a mix of these sort of single tenant critical health hubs to more multi tenant hands on assets.

Pammi Bir

Okay. And maybe just on that, would the like, are you comfortable acquiring assets where you know, the going in yield just may not be, you know, accretive or might be dilutive in the short term, but within a couple of years, you know, that they could actually be quite attractive.

Or do they need to be Got it. You know, immediately accretive coming in?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. I mean, I think it is it is we are again, it is a mix.

I think we are more focused on you know, what kind of value we can enhance. Everything we are looking at today in our pipeline is accretive today.

And is either very stable and sort of grows by the contractual increases or there is a lot of value enhancement there. So I guess if your question is would you buy a vacant building that you are gonna re or something to reposition, the answer is no.

Mean, everything we are doing, we anticipate to be accretive today. Some may be more than others, and some may have more long term upside.

Than others.

Pammi Bir

Got it. Okay.

Alright. Thanks very much.

that is helpful. I will turn it back.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Giuliano Thornhill from National Bank Financial. Your line is now open.

Please go ahead.

Giuliano Thornhill

Hey guys. Had 2 follow-ups.

I am just wondering what drove the sequential decline in the credit line rate. And Stephanie, you know, you mentioned that the unencumbered asset pool increasing is kind of increasing your, flexibility.

Could you just, like, kinda expand on that as well?

Stephanie Karamarkovic

Yeah. I mean, no change to our underlying credit facility.

During the quarter or even during the year for that matter. It really is based on underlying base rates, which have remained fairly stable.

So there has not really been much underlying change in our credit facility borrowing rates, during the period. So I am not quite sure maybe what your looking at.

Giuliano Thornhill

Yeah. Maybe a different number.

And then just Zachary, are you comfortable yet kind of, like, putting a timeline on when you think you might get to the more simplified state that is the current kind of strategy? Like, in a year's time or where do you think, like, the end state can be realized?

Zachary Brian Vaughan

Yeah. it is I mean, look, I certainly think in 12 months, we will be dramatically a dramatically simpler business, and we will have repatriated more capital back here.

It you know, in terms of at what portion vastly the majority of our earnings are sort of Americas, North America, that may just take a while, because, again, some of these situations, we obviously have partners we have to work with, and it just it takes time. But I would think I mean, again, I am gonna put something out there.

Maybe in 24--think about it in 24 months, we will be pretty much Americas, North America focused.

Giuliano Thornhill

Okay. Thanks again.

Operator

It seems that as of the moment, we do not have any questions queued up. That concludes our question and answer session.

I will now be passing the call over to Alyssa Barry. Vice President of Investor Relations, for closing remarks.

Please go ahead.

Alyssa Barry

Thank you for joining us today and your continued interest in Vital Infrastructure. If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to reach out to me at [email protected].

Thank you again for your time, and have a great day.

Operator

Thank you, everyone, for attending this call. May now disconnect.